The Anti-Sal
I've been playing the same game of Civ II for 10 years. Though long outdated, I grew fascinated with this particular game because by the time Civ III was released, I was already well into the distant future. I then thought that it might be interesting to see just how far into the future I could get and see what the ramifications would be. Naturally I play other games and have a life, but I often return to this game when I'm not doing anything and carry on. The results are as follows.
The world is a hellish nightmare of suffering and devastation.
There are 3 remaining super nations in the year 3991 A.D, each competing for the scant resources left on the planet after dozens of nuclear wars have rendered vast swaths of the world uninhabitable wastelands.
-The ice caps have melted over 20 times (somehow) due primarily to the many nuclear wars. As a result, every inch of land in the world that isn't a mountain is inundated swamp land, useless to farming. Most of which is irradiated anyway.
-As a result, big cities are a thing of the distant past. Roughly 90% of the worlds population (at it's peak 2000 years ago) has died either from nuclear annihilation or famine caused by the global warming that has left absolutely zero arable land to farm. Engineers (late game worker units) are always busy continuously building roads so that new armies can reach the front lines. Roads that are destroyed the very next turn when the enemy goes. So there isn't any time to clear swamps or clean up the nuclear fallout.
-Only 3 super massive nations are left. The Celts (me), The Vikings, And the Americans. Between the three of us, we have conquered all the other nations that have ever existed and assimilated them into our respective empires.
-You've heard of the 100 year war? Try the 1700 year war. The three remaining nations have been locked in an eternal death struggle for almost 2000 years. Peace seems to be impossible. Every time a cease fire is signed, the Vikings will surprise attack me or the Americans the very next turn, often with nuclear weapons. Even when the U.N forces a peace treaty. So I can only assume that peace will come only when they're wiped out. It is this that perpetuates the war ad infinitum. Have any of you old Civ II players out there ever had this problem in the post-late game?
-Because of SDI, ICBMS are usually only used against armies outside of cities. Instead, cities are constantly attacked by spies who plant nuclear devices which then detonate (something I greatly miss from later civ games). Usually the down side to this is that every nation in the world declares war on you. But this is already the case so its no longer a deterrent to anyone. My self included.
-The only governments left are two theocracies and myself, a communist state. I wanted to stay a democracy, but the Senate would always over-rule me when I wanted to declare war before the Vikings did. This would delay my attack and render my turn and often my plans useless. And of course the Vikings would then break the cease fire like clockwork the very next turn. Something I also miss in later civ games is a little internal politics. Anyway, I was forced to do away with democracy roughly a thousand years ago because it was endangering my empire. But of course the people hate me now and every few years since then, there are massive guerrilla (late game barbarians) uprisings in the heart of my empire that I have to deal with which saps resources from the war effort.
-The military stalemate is air tight. The post-late game in civ II is perfectly balanced because all remaining nations already have all the technologies so there is no advantage. And there are so many units at once on the map that you could lose 20 tank units and not have your lines dented because you have a constant stream moving to the front. This also means that cities are not only tiny towns full of starving people, but that you can never improve the city. "So you want a granary so you can eat? Sorry; I have to build another tank instead. Maybe next time."
-My goal for the next few years is to try and end the war and thus use the engineers to clear swamps and fallout so that farming may resume. I want to rebuild the world. But I'm not sure how. If any of you old Civ II players have any advice, I'm listening.
Edit: -Wow guys. Thanks for all your support. I had no idea this post would get this kind of response. -I'll be sure to keep you guys updated on my efforts. Whether here on Reddit, or a blog, or both. -Turns out a whole subreddit has been dedicated to ending this war. It's at /r/theeternalwar
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https://old.reddit.com/r/theeternalwar/comments/1g6jcd/update_to_the_eternal_war_11_year_old_civ_ii_game/?sort=controversial
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It's mildly interesting at first, until you realize he's an r-slur who struggles with killing AI or he's a redditor who intentionally got 'stuck' in this position so he could post about it.
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I remember this post from 10 years ago I guess this was my life.
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Darn it's really been 10 years.
TBH I wasted most of it.
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It could be worse. 10 years ago I was putting 4 figure sums into bitcoins to buy drugs. 10 years later instead of living as a multimillionaire I'm shitposting on rdrama.net. I never imagined reddit would become so pathetic though, I believed all the normiefication would've made the nerds leave.
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Checks out honestly
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I miss the innocence reddit had years ago. No
s, no woke infighting, no removed comments due to wrong thunks just nerdy geeks sharing their gaming stuff.
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Follower of Christ
Tech lover, IT Admin, heckin pupper lover and occasionally troll. I hold back feelings or opinions, right or wrong because I dislike conflict.
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You either die the g*mergater, or live long enough to become the Choo Choo Janny
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This Neighbor actuallt recreated Warhammer 40k in Civ 2 by accident lmao.
NERD SKULLS FOR THE BULLY THRONE
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If I recall correctly half the answer was just that he kinda sucked at Civ 2. But also this was an unironically much more interesting post than half of the /r/gaming front page.
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Mfw not Alpha Centauri
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That post never impressed me because I had saves that were similar than that one.
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I am a social construct, not an actual person
Snapshots:
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/r/theeternalwar:
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how stupid do you have to be to not kill the dumbass Ai in these games??? LOL
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Who must go?
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Good thread
RIP to the sub made for completing the save though (r/theeternalwar), looks like its been dead around 3 years
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fr
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