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Everyone please remember:
The Bradley Fighting Vehicle is an r-slured piece of shit that was in development from the 60s to the 80s. It's a troop transport that can't carry a squad, a reconnaissance vehicle that too conspicuous, and a tank killer that doesn't have enough armor for a fight.
Cary Elwes and Leslie Neilson and the mean doctor from Scrubs were in a movie about it called Pentagon Wars.
Edit: the point of this comment is that America at its worst 40 years ago is better than Russia at its best today.
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The movie mischaracerizes what happens. The tests he demanded usually were nonsensical. He threw a fit when he found out they had inert rounds in the ammo stores even though the test was only to see if the compartments would be breached, not to show damage from ammo cookoffs.
He's a pathological liar and the reformer movement are neo luddites.
The video is on the whole situation. It starts with a reformer saying the f35 will be a failure.
The Bradley Fighting Vehicle is a miracle of genius engineering that was in development from the 60s to the 80s. It's a tank that can also carry troops, a support vehicle that can also do reconnaissance, and a tank killer that mogged Abrams in the gulf war.
Apparently they got it to work, but it was already known to be legendarily terrible before the movie, and the development program was a huge reason why the DOD acquisition framework got systemitized so tightly, and why changes in scope have to be tied back to the JCOS requirements development office.
They were like cavemen discovering fire. They had no idea what they had created and that they wouldn't be able to replace it even nearly 50 years later.
That's just a bunch of bullshit from turbo boomers who saw the BMP-1 in 1967 and believed it was the greatest thing ever created (Soviet lies) when it has paper thin armor, fuel tank in the cabin to kill all the troops, 30" of total cabin height and a stupid low-velocity cannon that wouldn't event dent the armor of a WWII tank and vents fumes into the hull because it has no bore extractor. Also, the BMP-1 is designed to be organic to a motor rifle squad, so you've already lost the drive, the commander and the gunner and only have 7 men to maneuver if the BMP is fully manned.
The Bradley is actually capable of fighting things, even if it's a bad APC
At least then you might get thrown clear of the blast instead of burning alive. The worst seems to be the BMP-3s because they replaced a lot of the troop space with 100mm ammo just sitting there, so a single piece of shrapnel turns the entire thing into a massive fireball instantly
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Everyone please remember:
The Bradley Fighting Vehicle is an r-slured piece of shit that was in development from the 60s to the 80s. It's a troop transport that can't carry a squad, a reconnaissance vehicle that too conspicuous, and a tank killer that doesn't have enough armor for a fight.
Cary Elwes and Leslie Neilson and the mean doctor from Scrubs were in a movie about it called Pentagon Wars.
Edit: the point of this comment is that America at its worst 40 years ago is better than Russia at its best today.
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Lmao did you fall for that pile of shit? The guy that wanted all of those extra tests was a fricking moron.
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Live fire testing for armor is a law now, and it's all to a defined spec derived from a requirement development process
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Yes but his test was "muh not tank is bad because it can't take a hit from an ATGM"
Yeah, no shit, an anti-tank missile will blow up things that aren't tanks
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The movie mischaracerizes what happens. The tests he demanded usually were nonsensical. He threw a fit when he found out they had inert rounds in the ammo stores even though the test was only to see if the compartments would be breached, not to show damage from ammo cookoffs.
He's a pathological liar and the reformer movement are neo luddites.
The video is on the whole situation. It starts with a reformer saying the f35 will be a failure.
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The Bradley Fighting Vehicle is a miracle of genius engineering that was in development from the 60s to the 80s. It's a tank that can also carry troops, a support vehicle that can also do reconnaissance, and a tank killer that mogged Abrams in the gulf war.
Pentagon wars is propaganda goyslop.
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Apparently they got it to work, but it was already known to be legendarily terrible before the movie, and the development program was a huge reason why the DOD acquisition framework got systemitized so tightly, and why changes in scope have to be tied back to the JCOS requirements development office.
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They were like cavemen discovering fire. They had no idea what they had created and that they wouldn't be able to replace it even nearly 50 years later.
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Right? How's the Stryker looking these days
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That's just a bunch of bullshit from turbo boomers who saw the BMP-1 in 1967 and believed it was the greatest thing ever created (Soviet lies) when it has paper thin armor, fuel tank in the cabin to kill all the troops, 30" of total cabin height and a stupid low-velocity cannon that wouldn't event dent the armor of a WWII tank and vents fumes into the hull because it has no bore extractor. Also, the BMP-1 is designed to be organic to a motor rifle squad, so you've already lost the drive, the commander and the gunner and only have 7 men to maneuver if the BMP is fully manned.
The Bradley is actually capable of fighting things, even if it's a bad APC
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BMPs are just coffins on wheels from what we've seen in Ukraine. I'd rather ride on top.
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At least then you might get thrown clear of the blast instead of burning alive. The worst seems to be the BMP-3s because they replaced a lot of the troop space with 100mm ammo just sitting there, so a single piece of shrapnel turns the entire thing into a massive fireball instantly
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Big gun go brrrr definitely. From a project management perspective of controlling cost and scope and schedule, it's a flaming slice of peepee.
Despite development heck, it's still better than russoslop
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