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U.S. war plans for Ukraine don't foresee retaking lost territory - The Washington Post

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2024/01/26/ukraine-war-plan-biden-defense

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The idea now is to position Ukraine to hold its position on the battlefield for now, but “put them on a different trajectory to be much stronger by the end of 2024 … and get them on a more sustainable path,” said the senior official, one of several who described the internal policymaking on the condition of anonymity.

That's quite impossible, Ukraine economy can't feed it self

The U.S. planning is part of a multilateral effort by nearly three dozen countries backing Ukraine to pledge long-term security and economic support — both out of necessity, given the disappointing results of last year's counteroffensive and the conviction that a similar effort this year would likely bring the same outcome, and as a demonstration of enduring resolve to Russian President Vladimir Putin.

Giving Ukraine less show strong endurance to Putin

Each is preparing a document outlining its specific commitments spanning up to a decade in the future. Britain made its 10-year agreement with Ukraine public last week, signed by Prime Minister Rishi Sunak and Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky in Kyiv. It outlined contributions to “Maritime Security, Air, Air Defense, Artillery and Armor” as well as fiscal support and access to its financial sector. France is expected to be next, with an upcoming visit to Ukraine by President Emmanuel Macron.

Ukraine wont last a decade, somehow people love to forget that Ukraine population ain't thirds world. Every year will bring to them less new boys. In a decade kids that were 6 in 2022 will be forced to join the army and most of them are out of the country now.

But the success of the strategy depends almost entirely on the United States, by far Ukraine's largest donor of money and equipment, and coordinator of the multilateral effort. This spring the administration hopes to release its own 10-year commitment, now being compiled by the State Department with the blessing of the White House — assuming that President Biden's $61 billion request for supplemental Ukraine funding is approved by a recalcitrant Congress.

No US president going to sign giving Ukraine 61 billion every year for a decade

“Definitely the leadership and the engagement of the U.S. in the long term, but also in this very important phase, is paramount,” a senior European official said. “The supplemental is a must-have to continue ... not only on the ground, but as a show of Western resolve ... to make [Putin] understand that he will not win.”

The west failed their main goal to help Ukraine liberate all its territory and west is now exactly where China wants west to be. Can't help Ukraine win and can't let Ukraine lose and every year cost of supporting Ukraine increases.

Ironically this plan is even more stupid because hoping to reform Ukraine is just fantasy. This conflict can now only end if Russia gets more than it holds. In other cases it will be grinding Ukraine and improving Russian hands.

Also Russia has now been capturing shit in Kharkiv region

https://x.com/squatsons/status/1751226938520457235

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That was a lost cause from the beginning frankly, unless Ukraine would pull some strategic miracle which obviously didn't happen. Which is why Russia starting this war looks so stupid. Instead of trying to capture Kiev, Russia could simply move it's army in the now conquered territories and stop there. Neither Ukraine nor the West would have the guts to fight back and slowly Russia could have taken Ukraine bit by bit, instead of whatever is even going on currently.

This war was r-slurred from the start, but it was expected I guess, considering it's carried out by angry slavs :marseyshrug:

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Russia didn't tried to capture Kiev, the forces were to small for it, it wanted to scare Kiev gov to officially forget about Crimea and sign no NATO and they were almost ready to sign it but Boris Johnson needed to save his career. So at one point ukraine went so hyped it told its goal are getting 1991 borders and to show that Putin is serious he annexed 4 more territories. Best irony that if today votings would happen then Zelenskyy would lose to Zaluzhnyy so the gov many Ukrainian died is now not even popular.

But general Russian plan was very logical because it made no sense for Ukraine to fight big long war with Russia. If now boarders of Ukraine will open all men will rush out so in reality not much of Ukraine is left

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Russia didn't tried to capture Kiev

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You got an objective proof Russian tried to capture that city ?

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:marseygigaretard: :marseyemojirofl:

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Good that you have some irony and realise you are an r-slur who made a statement and didn't backed it up with arguments.

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This is your latest cope and it's sad.

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Sad that you can't even give arguments to your statements

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Sad that you can't even give arguments to your statements

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It's simple enough to understand. Salvador is an r-slur.

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They should have just asked me LOL I knew the holhols would never get e.g. Donbass back, ever, in 2022

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Factcheck: This claim is 100% true.


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Russia's your problem.

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:#marseyquestion:

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This might be the single most manipulative thing I've ever seen written in response to a comment of mine. You take literally every word I've written and write a whole paragraph for each sentence, ascribing some hidden meaning to my words, based solely on your own internal monologue.

You know why my statements were simple? Because they were. Face value. No deep subtext. You on the other hand, have chosen to edit a previous comment to try an excoriate my statements in a platform of your choosing - rather than discuss and defend the merit of your own bullshit.

You also spend quite a lot of time examining and excoriating my initial statement as somehow an attempt to preemptively put the onus on you for proof and dismiss you. I would like to remind everyone looking at this that I made that statement before you ever showed up here. I wasn't replying to you, I wasn't talking to you or about you, and you had yet to participate. There is literally no possible way for me to have any such motivation. I would have had to predict that you would reply, and what you would say, in order to attempt to do such a thing.

I can only conclude you're a narcissist and an abuser, because no one else would attempt to twist words to this extent, and write so much to try and dissect each individual sentence.

Snapshots:

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https://x.com/squatsons/status/1751226938520457235:

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