Ukraine-Russia Peace Is as Elusive as Ever. But in 2022 They Were Talking.

Can't believe those Redditors:

https://old.reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/14cjsma/putin_shows_off_what_he_claims_is_draft_peace/

Who were telling such deal didn't existed were Reddit iq

Bad guy doesn't need to lie

West goal is to make Ukraine look better than it is and has a lot of mind working how to keep support from regular citizens going:

https://ecfr.eu/publication/wars-and-elections-how-european-leaders-can-maintain-public-support-for-ukraine/?amp

But the point was 2022 deal was way better than 2024. Back then they weren't even going to lose on paper Crimea (Crimea was supposed to be just like it was, de jury Ukrainian de facto Russian) and lose tiny part of Donbas that wasn't in control of Ukraine since 2014. But obviously khohols were hyped back then believed they were going to win and that's why now the offer is to fully lose 4 regions and Crimea. And next offer 100% will include also losing Kharkiv since 99% Lugansk is already under Russia so pushing in that direction will enter more in Kharkiv. Khohols today ain't hyped they know things ain't going to get better but they want the line be frozen but freezing a line is a draw scenario and Ukraine is on losing scenario so they will need to give something that isn't under Russian control for peace. It's like they never played civilization game duh

But I still love those people saying Ukrainian need to continue fighting and hopping for miracles.

Ukrainian fighting: