Funny how they start sounding like the "grognards" they despise.

How much is Hasbro?

— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) November 28, 2024

Anybody play the test rules? Is it fun?

Where can I find model files for this shit. WWI theme is like crack for me and I want to build an army of the game doesn't suck.

Burgers ignore your lame holiday and family to help me

Now we know the main reason that Age of Sigmar is dull is that it's just chunks of the old Warhammer Fantasy floating in a giant kaleidoscope. My Idea is that the Old World wasn't even the tenth or twentieth world to get chopped up and poured iin. Chaos has devoured thousands of worlds. I want those worlds to be other failed or obscure tabletop gamelines suitably warped, twisted, elevated, mutated, and evolved.

If you dine with cannibals sooner or later you're going to get eaten.

https://old.reddit.com/r/magicTCG/comments/1gciwsz/imagine_sitting_down_for_a_game_of_40k_and/

https://old.reddit.com/r/magicTCG/comments/1gc3w97/universes_beyond_will_enter_through_standard/

https://old.reddit.com/r/magicTCG/comments/1gc80yx/a_lot_changes_in_3_years_huh/

https://old.reddit.com/r/magicTCG/comments/1gs0u86/dont_you_know_magic_when_you_see_it/

https://old.reddit.com/r/magicTCG/comments/1gh8vce/half_of_magic_the_gathering_will_not_be_magic_the/

https://old.reddit.com/r/magicTCG/comments/1gc3w97/universes_beyond_will_enter_through_standard/ltqvcu9/?context=8

Apparently Wizards of the woke have been threatening to do this for 2 years and peeps had joked how tonally shit it would be to have Spongebob face off against mega-r*pe--dragon 9000, and THEN 2 weeks ago, fricking Spongebob was one of the examples

As you should be able to see, I started my post with a variant of the "Did Vaush just BTFO" copypasta (!soyteens you should recognize this), which was changed to be about Byron Hall, the creator of the infamous rpg FATAL, responding to a very critical review of his game. Byron's response did not disprove every claim in the review, but for the purposes of bait, I pretended that it did. Here is the copypasta I created:

Did Byron Hall just BTFO all of rpg.net's moralstrag arguments?

>https://wiki.rpg.net/index.php/FATALReviewRebuttal

>Points out that Darren refuses to offer counter evidence against FATAL being difficult and complex; indeed, Darren also admits the game is difficult and complex as part of his "criticism"

>Points out that boss monsters such as Cerberus are still possible in FATAL

>Explains the origin of "where the dice never lie"

>Explains that Darren is overgeneralizing all of FATAL's possible gameplay when he calls FATAL the "date r*pe rpg"

>Points out that Jason's responses are more juvenile than the language used in FATAL

>Explains that FATAL has potential for much more varied gameplay than Vampire, and has more realistic combat too

>Explains that concepts like ether and physiognomy do not have to be accepted by the author of a role-playing game to write about them, just as a designer of a game with magic does not have to believe in real-world magic

>Explains that a woman can be nearly any class in the game, rather than only a prostitute as the reviewers claim

>Explains that FATAL's averaging rolling method emulates the normal distribution of real-world stats more accurately than games which use a single flat roll

>Explains that the standard deviation of intelligence scores is different between men and women, but changing the standard deviation does not require changing the mean

Where is YOUR evidence to back up your ridiculus claims about FATAL being the worst RPG? By all means, read the entire rebuttal, i promise you that you can't debunk it.

>inb4 I get told to shut the frick up by someone who hasn't read the review and is triggered

>inb4 someone posts the anal circumference chart without context as an "argument" and without an analysis of WHY Hall included it in his game

>inb4 someone uses anecdotal evidence

>inb4 someone says 5E is better

>inb4 someone defends Sartin & Mclellan's safe edgy humor

>inb4 someone links to 1d4chan

As you can see, this copypasta should be immediately recognizable as bait since it omits important information that was stated during the review, is a modified form of an already existing copypasta, indirectly defends one of the worst RPGs without directly praising any mechanics less generic than dice rolling, arguably lies about every claim being disproven, has intentional errors and, most importantly for both this copypasta which I created, and the original "Did X just BTFO" copypasta, It lists valid arguments in the inb4 section to prevent people from using said valid arguments. The copypasta also has 2 intentional errors which only users who care a lot about detail would notice, which are that I said "just BTFO" to preserve the original copypasta's title even though the rebuttal was made decades ago, and that I said ">inb4 someone links to 1d4chan" even though 1d6chan exists and 1d4chan is down, since many 4chan olds dislike 1d6chan removing content that violated miraheze's TOS, however in hindsight it would likely have been a better idea to reference 1d6chan for additional possible replies.

To give /tg/ credit, one poster immediately accused me of being a "contrarianist troll", but this didn't kill the thread:

https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/94402739/#q94403061

Nice baby's first contrarianist troll, but the game's only relevant worth is being a subject of mockery, plain and simple. And I can summarize why with one single sentence: When the simple act of making a character and playing the game is such an unbearably boring waste of time, then that alone is enough to condemn any game even before you get to the r-slurred and the shitty charts. Cause at least the autism in fricking GURPs serves some kind of purpose. FATAL is just unpleasant as a whole.

This reply would be expected when posting bait on 4chan, however the poster also included an anime reaction image, which may depict a character from 40k, but it is unofficial fanart outside of the style of the game. Another user called out this act of extreme oldery:

https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/94402739/#94406623

Consider the following!

anime reddit meme reaction image

No point of substance, just bitching about not liking character creation

2 other users replied back, one of them saying that 40k is board culture, however the user who replied replies again, dropping an off-topic about anime reaction images:

https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/94402739/#94407438

That's not 40k, it's some gay little anime fan image of 40k. Stop being disingenuous and misrepresenting your arguments to worm out of them.

Furthermore, you've yet to present any arguments that aren't complaining about your own personal preferences

This didn't seem to discourage other users from replying to me, Another user accuses me of being Virtualoptim, a namestrag best known for this image:

Another reply which I partially expected due to my inclusion of ">inb4 someone defends Sartin & Mclellan's safe edgy humor" was a response stating that Sartin & Mclellan's humor would have been considered extremely offensive, given that rpg.net underwent a similar transformation to somethingawful (in this case, rpgcodex is the obligatory SASS equivalent)

rpg.net btfo'd themselves. The cute twinks who did this review turned out to be total cute twinks themselves and if someone else were to post stuff like this in present day they'd have a meltdown over it and ban them forever.

I did try to interact with the thread to keep up the pretense of my bait, however this was unsuccessful. First, when another user (https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/94402739/#q94403095) said that the game can't calculate swing force, I immediately remembered that one of the only non-horrible combat mechanics was fulcrum range, which actually does calculate swing force, and replied stating the page number on the online pdf of the rules I had used a search function to find fulcrum range in. Unfortunately, the user I responded to was using a different pdf of the rulebook, and did not find fulcrum range on that page. Secondly, I tried to reply to a user stating that everyone who has played FATAL has hated it by linking to a Kiwifarms letsplay of the game, which I found from this post: https://rdrama.net/h/traditionalgames/post/315746/fatal-and-kiwifarms-a-match-made, but I was banned from all of 4chan for 13 days since my post contained banned text (likely the kiwifarms link). This prevented me from correcting the error made by the user who could not find fulcrum range

The rest of the thread is relatively boring, but some users seem to be unironically defending FATAL as a response to users who responded to my bait, and one user, or potentially a collection of users, began rolling up a character just to prove how bad the character creation system is.

The thread theme, often described as sounding like "Cookie Monster chasing a drum set down a stairwell" is the greatest thing to come from the worst role-playing game ever.

Everyone knows [[Thassa's Oracle]] and [[Demonic Consultation]].

But there's also stuff like [[Sanguine Bond]] and [[Exquisite Blood]] or their creature version with [[Enduring Tenacity]] / [[Marauding Blight-Priest]] and [[Bloodthirsty Conqueror]] - in standard nonetheless.

Last night after I won a game with my new [[Aphelia]] deck by using her ability after I dropped a [[Bloodletter of Aclazotz]] I was accused of an "unfair two card combo" which sparked a discussion about combos in general.

I'm in the camp tjat combos are good, combos are needed and it's better to have a game ending combos than to drag out a game - after a pregame discussion of the power level of course.

I just feel a lot of people seem to fond it fair if you win via combat damage. Even if a [[Finale of Devastation]] tutored a [[Craterhoof]] which is arguably a two card Combo.

What do you guys think?

Clearly wotc is printing ever stronger cards and we will only see an increase in combo possibilities

/u/Head-Ambition-5060 this has to be one of the dumbest comparisons I have ever seen. Thassa's Oracle is an unhealthy outlier in terms of two card combos. These other combos mentioned cost ridiculous amounts of mana and need significantly more setup. Sanguine Bond/Exquisite Blood is 10 total mana, Enduring/Conquerer is 9 mana, and Finale + Craterhoof would cost 10 mana IF AND ONLY IF you don't need the extra combat buff from X on Finale being over 10 (in which case, you would need 12 mana). This is on top of the fact that the first two require an additional life gain/loss trigger to start and Craterhoof win requires having enough creatures as well as a combat step that you can swing out with.

I don't care what Wizard wants. They printed $1000 proxy packs, Fortnite Secret Lair, SL Ultimate Edition, Dockside extortionist, homoerotic bearscape, companions, etc etc etc. They send pinkertons to intimidate their own clients when WotC itself screws up an order. They hire contractors like SweetBaby Inc to threaten and harass community organizers like the commander RC to scare them into yielding their organic, grassroots authority to Wizards. Then they scold the community - their customers - like a disappointed parent reprimanding a rambunctious toddler, to cover their own butt.

Sweetbaby Inc. mentioned

Homoerotic Bearscape, for those who may have missed it:

comment section here is very weird lmao. my take on it is simple, tho. combos are fun. if people are upset about it, then they probably want a diff experience at the table. i guess the rule 0 talk happens, but eh. you play to win.

Some people are just of the opinion that edh is the ine gane where ypu don't try to win

-19 and counting,

Unfortunately not finding much else. Will keep looking though, but the post was so r-slurred I thought I would find some gold in the comments.

Donsomething darn you!

Elon is finished! The offical Magic: The Gathering Trading Card Game account made a post on Bluesky! This signals the end for him and Trump.

In the comments manchildren are bragging about beating children lol

It went from grotesque shit like

To

The board game industry relies upon Chinese factories. If he does what he says he will in regards to tariffs, say goodbye to that. And this isn't simply a 'print it somewhere else' situation. There just aren't factories sitting around ready to pick up the work. Let alone factories with the proper equipment and staff that are accustomed to the norms of board game production. I'd be very concerned about any kickstarters you have that are more than six months out. He's been talking about basically starting a trade war with China, and not just them either. So yeah, it was good while it lasted. Can't expect people to have more than four years of memory either I guess.

This is really some top notch TDS, I mean very niche.

They used to do Secret Lair cards print to demand. They would open orders, whoever wanted the cards could buy them, and they'd print however many people bought and ship them out. That was too convenient and made the cards too accessible so for a lot of drops they now only sell a limited quantity. The latest limited drop was for some very strong Marvel themed cards. They implemented a weird system where instead of buying the cards when they dropped you got put into a queue to be allowed to buy them. For unknown reasons the queue lasted for five hours and most people who were waiting didn't even get to buy the cards . Redditors are mad that they're too r-slurred to just proxy and will have to pay hyperinflated secondary market prices to get their Marvel fix.

As always WotC always wins.