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No, you just googled answers to counter it by sham historians. I'm gonna go. You are just going to keep crying about how all your flawed sources from wikipedia are correct so there's not really a point in trying to argue
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>The legend of the Sacred Band seems to have begun in the early fourth century as a fanciful real-world analogy that initially supported and ultimately replaced a utopian proposal to build a city or army on the ennobling bond between lover and beloved. The citizens of this ideal polis would be unified and conspicuous in their love of liberty, and it was perhaps this idea that gave the Theban Sacred Band a history. For although an actual Sacred Band—if there even was one—must have fought many battles from 375 to 338, the tradition of the Sacred Band focused on just three battles in which the man-loving Thebans fought tyrants on Boeotian soil: Tegyra and Leuctra, where the Thebans toppled the Spartan hegemony and restored freedom to Boeotia and Greece, and Chaeronea, where they fell bravely to the tyrannical Philip, who brought Greek liberty to an end. Tegyra and Leuctra had probably already been fashioned into stands against tyranny in Callisthenes' Hellenica, and possibly already in the obscure Boeotian chroniclers on whom Callisthenes is supposed to have drawn, and Chaeronea, Thebes's answer to the heroic stand of Leonidas and the three hundred Spartans at Thermopylae, may have come to be understood in similar terms. But it was not until this panegyric history became attached to the erotic political philosophy of men like Plato, Xenophon's Pausanias, and Zeno of Citium that the legend of the Sacred Band acquired its distinctive erotic dimension.
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Miffin 2mo ago#6990550
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As I've already said, yes, there are revisionists on this topic. However, they just deny the existence of the Sacred Band altogether.
As I've previously said, it is also true that this revisionism began with the modern field of history.
All in all, your own source contradicts you. It says that ancient Greeks themselves associated the Sacred Band with pederasty. Nothing to do with a gay dude in the 1970s.
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Miffin 2mo ago#6990450
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No, you just googled answers to counter it by sham historians. I'm gonna go. You are just going to keep crying about how all your flawed sources from wikipedia are correct so there's not really a point in trying to argue
Et voila: quotations from classical sources are sham historians from Wikipedia! But wingcuck liars on the Internet are REAL historians!
I do not see anything in that quote saying that homosexual practices in ancient Greece were made up by a gay dude in the 1970s. Interesting.
EDIT: Miffin quotes here Leitao's "The Legend of the Sacred Band". I am obviously well aware of this, as I have previously mentioned that revisionary historians on this topic exist. However, if you care about consensus, they are still, well, revisionaries/the minority, and two, as is plain to all to see, Leitao doesn't deny the multiple accounts which I have procured... because, they are direct citations from classical texts, and not 'agreed points by sham historians I googled for this shit[sic]' or whaever. I am sure that the irony is palpable- the only person who has quoted secondary source shit[sic] that only agrees with one's points is Miffin. I have exclusively quoted primary sources.
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Miffin 2mo ago#6990461
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Why are you so prideful, that you can't admit you're wrong on a single thing?
EDIT: as I said, reader, Miffin did not give up on the whole "I will not read your point lol" thing this entire exchange.
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Miffin 2mo ago#6990473
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There is nothing to see. I directly quoted from classical sources. Act like this in public, I don't care. But I do hope in private, you will look into this, and see that I have not done anything that you have claimed.
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No, you just googled answers to counter it by sham historians. I'm gonna go. You are just going to keep crying about how all your flawed sources from wikipedia are correct so there's not really a point in trying to argue
Here's a quote for you
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As I've already said, yes, there are revisionists on this topic. However, they just deny the existence of the Sacred Band altogether.
As I've previously said, it is also true that this revisionism began with the modern field of history.
All in all, your own source contradicts you. It says that ancient Greeks themselves associated the Sacred Band with pederasty. Nothing to do with a gay dude in the 1970s.
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Et voila: quotations from classical sources are sham historians from Wikipedia! But wingcuck liars on the Internet are REAL historians!
I do not see anything in that quote saying that homosexual practices in ancient Greece were made up by a gay dude in the 1970s. Interesting.
EDIT: Miffin quotes here Leitao's "The Legend of the Sacred Band". I am obviously well aware of this, as I have previously mentioned that revisionary historians on this topic exist. However, if you care about consensus, they are still, well, revisionaries/the minority, and two, as is plain to all to see, Leitao doesn't deny the multiple accounts which I have procured... because, they are direct citations from classical texts, and not 'agreed points by sham historians I googled for this shit[sic]' or whaever. I am sure that the irony is palpable- the only person who has quoted secondary source shit[sic] that only agrees with one's points is Miffin. I have exclusively quoted primary sources.
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Why are you so prideful, that you can't admit you're wrong on a single thing?
EDIT: as I said, reader, Miffin did not give up on the whole "I will not read your point lol" thing this entire exchange.
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Why can't you look in a mirror?
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There is nothing to see. I directly quoted from classical sources. Act like this in public, I don't care. But I do hope in private, you will look into this, and see that I have not done anything that you have claimed.
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Honestly that probably is true when you look in the mirror lmao
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