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I wasn't really gonna say anything because I haven't actually played HoI4 in nearly three years so it's kind of off my radar, but as a Person Whomst Talks About Grand Strategy As A Job, I really don't like the "evil is cool" tone of the Götterdämmerung marketing. pic.twitter.com/mavpUIIyKr
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and the nazi famines were recorded by them in the 12 million death toll. The 12 million, are specifically civilian deaths as part of the programs exercised by the national socialist government, most of the camps were very similar to gulags. But a few were actually for killing. But many still died in the work camps, just like millions died in gulags during forced labour, food shortages or purges.
A large part of the 12 million died in transit too, most of them going to workers camps, sending workers to death projects or even just camps with little food, even if is "without intention", is certainly a systemic death. Many such deaths occured under stalinist russia, not just the holodomor.
20 million is in line with the civilian atrocities commited under stalinist russia. The 12 million is what the nazis themselves recorded with great precision.
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That's fair, I'm not denying the 20 million number for the death Stalin's government directly caused for the sake of this conversation, just that because if you held the Nazi's to the same standard it'd be higher, so it feels to silly to compare the two numbers which have different meanings.
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