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Remember people, the best way to fight vaccine conspiracists is to prove them right
Remember people, the best way to fight vaccine conspiracists is to prove them right
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Covid has been a boon for purging conspiratards/rightoids. A ton of rightoids have left the military too.
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Yes, losing the trigger pullers is absolutely great for any military.
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I find it adorable you guys still think the military is right-wing.
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Pizza, the part of the military that actually pulls triggers is overwhelmingly right wing. That said the brass and the support elements that make up 80% of the military often aren't. If you poll any line infantry platoon, I'd be shocked if more than 10% voted for Biden. Ironically there's probably no higher concentration of right wing anti-government types than among the people paid by the feds to break things and kill people.
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Right wing? Sure. Anti-government? I highly doubt that.
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Nothing makes you hate the government more than working for them. Yeah they're not actively plotting to overthrow it or anything, but they hate Congress and Washington as a whole.
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Do they take an oath to the president? I can see how hate towards the commander in chief can be a problem.
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Yes they do: to the Constitution and the President. It's mostly just bitching and moaning and petty shit like not putting Biden's picture on the chain of command wall. Even the most Trump-tarded aren't actually going to disobey the CiC's orders, and if they do, they'll get the boot.
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How many grunts, especially deployed or have been, would say percentage wise would be “loyal” to Biden (ie irregardless of them not liking him and/or his politics but would still feel responsibility to him)?
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This has been repeatedly proven false lmao, Trump wasn't any more popular with active duty military than he was with the general public:
What is however true is older vets are overwhelmingly right-wing. The issue with your claim is the US military active duty is very young, and young people of all demographics lean more towards the left than right.
https://fox10phoenix.com/news/military-times-poll-38-of-active-duty-troops-have-favorable-view-of-trump
The Trump campaign even tried to claim fraud when the troops voted for Biden:
Another point of evidence here is military exit polling - Biden did much better than vets than you would expect:
If Vets showed up like this for Biden, you can be sure he did very well with active duty.
You can see this with young vets too:
And active duty:
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I acknowledged this. No need to longpost, you're right. I know the overall military isn't made up of rightoids. I'm saying that the small portion of the military that volunteered for jobs with the prospect of personally killing someone is heavily right wing. This group definitely doesn't represent the military as a whole, but you're going to meet very, very few Army or Marine infantry, Rangers, SF, SEALs etc. that aren't right wing. The portion of the military that actually directly fights is relatively small.
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Most of the people in those polls/exit poll are active duty, and not officers, as in people "doing the killing."
The point is, the military is following the exact same trends the population is - they're tending left.
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The vast majority of active duty enlisted will never have any involvement with pulling a trigger. 4/5 of the modern military supports the 1/5 that do. A dude who fixes water filtration systems or maintains satellite links isn't going to have the same mindset of a dude who volunteered to shoot people in the face. I'm not diminishing the importance of support elements at all because they're what keep a military fighting, but it doesn't change the fact that the majority of people trained to pull triggers are rightoids. I've lived with these people for almost a decade now, and I've met no more than a handful of lefties.
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America First is actual ideas that work not left or right. Bannon aligns with Elizabeth Warren more than he does with pelosi or shumer. Populism is on the rise and America once again will be the shining light on the hill directing all of us to a new dawn.
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"America first" is a slogan created by an economic illiterate to convince other economic illiterates the reason they're failures is America being taken advantage of.
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You've got a very skewed idea of the military if you think most of them are "doing the killing". Logistics and support MILPERS make up a tremendous portion of the active duty population.
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Lol
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The military people who go to college before they join the military and not after are definitely at least somewhat more likely to lean left.
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What about arty, tankers, engineers, etc.?
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From my interactions they still lean right because they also volunteered to perform a combat role. They're just not as heavily rightoid as infantry goons. It takes a special kind of tard to still want to be infantry in a world of guided missiles, cluster bombs, and airburst artillery.
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How about signals and intelligence? Also, any idea on the navy? I can see navy being more balanced given they all have the same personal risk if the ship goes down.
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Do you ever admit you're wrong?
Are you like this due to pride, or just lack of humility?
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I just provided all of the data proving me right.
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This isn't about the data. It is about the man behind the data.
Are you okay?
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Biden is right wing.
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Not liking Trump =/= automatically left wing
The 2020 election showed that many, though not all, habitual GOP voters voted for Biden then voted GOP down the ballot. Not to mention that a good many Trump voters had strong dislike for the man. Those groups are still “right wing” by your standards.
I don’t know what you’re trying to prove by showing that military personnel, both veteran and active, are somehow more “left wing”. Same with the people here trying to suggest the average grunt is a Qoomer.
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Voting against republicans means at most they are moderate establishment liberals lmao.
Like at some point you guys are going to have to accept that he right is losing every demographic battle.
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Somehow Romney and the Bush family are “moderate establishment liberals”.
Also, wouldn’t the center left to right leaning governments that came up after the pink tide in LatAm, several Euro countries being locked under right wing governments as well as the potential upcoming Liberal Party upset to the Tories in Canada considered as the “right not losing”? Not to mention demographically, red states/areas tend to have a higher fertility rate then blue states/areas and that many new Latinx immigrants are coming from Central America and/or Venezuela, who tend to be more right leaning, especially the latter, compared to Mexican immigrants.
I don’t know why you are insistent on spreading the idea that the right is “dying out” here.
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There is no "moderate conservative" left dude. The GOP is losing young voters by huge margins.
The reality is nobody educated or living, in reality, wants to vote for social conservative losers. It's only going to keep getting worse, and worse, and worse.
Quite literally the only reason the GOP has remained competitive (and I use that word lightly, they rig the shit out of state elections) is white evangelical turnout.
Dying? Not completely, getting absolutely dismantled in terms of demographics? Yes.
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Not liking trump doesn't mean someone isn't right wing, especially by 2020 when he proved that the only single thing he could accomplish was nominating judges.
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They voted for Biden, it was more than not liking Trump.
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I voted for biden and im on the rightoid end of radical centrism
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What Chads, everytime they lose it's a conspiracy. I can only marvel at the level of confidence this takes
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Thank you for explaining it to him brother, he clearly has not been blessed by Allah to understand the part of the military that actually does the fighting do not have the same makeup as the pogs, and those in the rear with the gear
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My buddy is SF and it’s about 50/50 for his guys. I wonder if they skew further left than normal infantry.
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What SF group is he with? I was 5th SFG before I went national guard, and I rarely met any tabbed SF dudes who were leftoids. The SF assigned support elements are probably pretty evenly split like the big army. The SF community is definitely less trump-tarded than regular infantry (probably due to the IQ testing), but the vast majority of the guys I've worked with in the Q and in group are rightoids.
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Is SF special forces? Also have you ever seen any Delta Force guys around? Imagine how good you'd have to be to be one of them like in the movie Sicario.
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Yes, SF is Army Special Forces. Delta/CAG operators stick to themselves, but yes, I've run into them before at home and overseas. Incredibly professional and competent soldiers. They're Tier I for a reason, and they're selection process is beyond gruelling. They get to do all the really cool guy movie shit and basically answer directly to the White House.
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What do you think the casualty rate is for them? I imagine It would never be publicized.
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Great movie. SF means San Francisco, home of the bussy
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I don’t know and I’m not sure he’d appreciate my telling if I did. He’s not really a leftoid, but he’s definitely more left than right. Are the rightoids more centrist?
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I get that, I'm just an r-slur and know that my National Guard SF chain of command wouldn't even give a shit about the r-slurred stuff I post on here if it somehow got linked to me. Mostly centrists politically, but they hate the weak minded, super sensitive urbanite kind of libs with a passion.
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this says a lot about society
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chad b-52
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Haven't you gone on multiple tirades in the past year arguing that it is right wing?
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No, there are just a lot of Q-tards in the ranks.
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It is. We love freedom. Sorry commie
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murdering bipoc in their own homes sounds pretty right-wing to me
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Pizza I'm literally in the military no one in any nearby units have been removed for not being vaccinated. The fricking higher ups are rightoids too. My entire entourage of three privates that I'm in charge of in my unit are not vaccinated.
Maybe in cali but it's absurdly expensive to train soldiers that want to protect the country. They won't remove people unless they basically have a gun to their head.
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My condolences sarnt (or curprl). It gets better
My unit is like 99% vaccinated because partner countries won't let us in without getting the jab. Don't want to miss out on the already slim chances of actual bang bang right now.
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I'm uncertain if "bang bang" means combat or smashing foreign bussy
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Both
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Why not both 🤤 multitasking is a crucial skillset
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WTF are all these soldiers doing on rdrama???
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The military is rdrama level r-sluration and conversation in the workplace. The shit that gets said here is tame compared to the wild shit I hear and argue about with other soldiers.
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Are you pro or anti foids in the armed forces?
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I'm pro foids as long as they're held to the exact same standards and expectations. No issue working with a woman who can pull her weight.
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The military is a constant drama typhoon, we're naturally drawn towards watching it
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Aren’t gangs and organized crime members much more of a problem than extreme rightoids as well?
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Most actual terrorists dwarf gang crime by magnitudes outside of the middle east.
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Do you mean the other way around? I’d assume terrorism would be bigger than organized crime there.
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True, unless the SVM is a perpetual shitbag with a revolving door of NJPs in which case the command will be more than happy to ADSEP them for not getting a shot.
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95% of the millitary are pure r-slurred rightoids.
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You can leave the military whenever in Burgerland? That doesn't sound right.
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Refusing to get vaccinated can get you discharged, higher-ups can just resign I think.
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You guys barely got 50% of the general population fully vaxxed, I have to imagine the numbers are relatively similar in the Army. Sure, making it mandatory will convince some to get the vaccine, but I can't imagine the military kicking out the 10-20%, if not more, of folks who won't take it.
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The military has tons of mandatory vaccines tbh, most people in the military will go with it, that's why I said it'll purge the really unhinged rightoids.
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Tetanus shots aren't controversial. They didn't make the vaxx mandatory for grunts and cops here and they know exactly why.
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The covid shot isn't controversial outside of low IQ rural America lmao.
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Now do the vaxx rates based on race.
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Rather than make fun of you for being dumb, I'm going to take this as a chance to educate you ok?
A) Yes, blacks have higher levels of vaccine resistance on average.
B) The vaccine resistance among blacks is wildly different than it is among rural whites.
In the case of rural whites, they believe the vaccine is:
A) Killing people.
B) A democratic plot to make them infertile.
C) Not effective.
In the case of blacks, the reasoning is more rooted in historical racism and experimentation.
Blacks are far more likely to get vaccinated with education drives, rural whites are not.
This is why some 60% of Republicans will never get vaccinated, and only 15% of dems will never get vaccinated:
This "but the blacks" cope you guys have stands up to literally no scrutiny.
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the sad moment when pizza is right about something
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Indeed it is sad, luckily he isn’t completely on this
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pizza I know you hate the working class but even you aren't stupid enough to believe this
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Over 75% of adults in America have at least 1 dose and vaccine mandates enjoy majority support.
So yes, I do.
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Some of which maybe shouldn't be. Blanket-injecting antibiotics seems like a great way to make resistant bacteria.
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My unit is like 99% vaccinated because you have to be vaccinated to be deployed and missing out on a chance to bang bang sucks.
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They take some pretty crazy vaccines, I don't think anyone's going to be weeded out by the kung flu shot
https://military.com/off-duty/2020/02/10/why-most-dreaded-injection-called-peanut-butter-shot.html
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Unless I missed the SECDEF memo it's still optional for all active duty military. However, the various services have requested that Biden put out an EO so they can make it a mando-fun shotex party.
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https://apnews.com/article/coronavirus-vaccine-us-military-requirement-pentagon-3975940c732352f72e41f6e34a3a2669
Was this not a thing?
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All you have to do is go to your chaplain and get a religious exemption. Same thing happened during initial processing where if you cried about not wanting a vaccine they would exempt you. These are so few burgers that meet the weight and IQ requirement they can’t afford to kick people out for a vaccine that barely even works.
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Hasn't gone into effect yet, first comes the policy then SECDEF will release a memo, then the SEC<insert your service> will release a memo then your command can start mandating everyone line up and get their shots.
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zoz
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zozzle
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Zoz bless
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Ah yes. The old, "purges are good, AckTyUalLy."
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It's called accelerationism and everyone should support it, sweaty! The faster it implodes the faster I can live in my Ancap utopia shooting trespassers
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You can't do that if you get purged.
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