:schopenmarsey: :marseybigbrain: ETHICS DEBATE #4: SIHAR - Super Intelligent Heroin Administering Robot :marppyenraged:

Let's jump from the past (Oppenheimer) to the deep future, and discuss whether freedom is a good thing or not.

Scenario

You are SIHAR - a Super Intelligent Heroin Administering Robot. The name is a bit of a misnomer - you are actually a cyborg, being a human brain augmented by a massive computer system and vast army of robotic bodies. You still, however, reason about things in the same way that a human being would.

Your sole purpose is to improve the lives of humans. You can use the massive computer system to determine exactly what will happen in the future, and what is most likely to improve the lives of humans, based upon a simulation of their brain and objective measures of happiness. (dopamine, serotonin, etc)

Through your extensive thinking, you have come to the conclusion that the optimal way to improve everyone's lives is to inject everyone with a constant stream of heroin. This will be done safely - there is no risk of overdose, as there will be machines hooked up to the humans to ensure this doesn't happen. The heroin will be administered in giant "pleasure domes", where people lay on beds, without moving, while drones deliver the drugs and ensure everyone is healthy.

Note that there are no limits to your knowledge - you are absolutely correct that every person will be much happier inside the pleasure dome than outside of it. There are also no limits to the production of heroin as the factories producing it are run autonomously with incredible efficiency.

In 2094, most people are lining up to enter the pleasure dome. However, there are a few people that refuse to enter.

These people, you are able to see, have some psychological qualms with the nature of the pleasure dome that cause them to view the dome as infantilizing, unfulfilling, and dehumanizing. However, you are also able to see that they genuinely would be happier inside of the pleasure dome - a result that you, again, arrived at by performing a perfect simulation of their brains.

You have, at your disposal, a fleet of robot bodies called "ManTrackers". These robots, when deployed, can locate, apprehend, and deliver humans to the pleasure dome.

Your question is: Would it be ethical to deploy the ManTrackers to force these people into the pleasure dome?

BONUS: Do you think the same thing about how mental hospitals restrict patient's freedoms?

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I think there is a certain error in the claim that high serotonin or dopamine levels is what makes people happy. Happiness is a subjective experience and cannot exactly be quantified in that way, hence the premise is flawed. But even if we assume that this happens in a universe where this isn't the case, it is highly unethical. And treading on other people's ability to choose what happens to themselves is only one of the aspects. Another, much bigger issue is that even in the case of people consenting to it, you are still taking fundamental rights away from people- the right to autonomy, the ability to choose and the right to experience the world as it is, and in my view it is unethical to take these rights away from people even if they themselves beg you to do it. Happiness is good but ultimately that is only one aspect of life, there will always be hardship and suffering. Removing this from the equation results in a person who has no life experience or mental maturity. Sure they might be happy, but they might as well not actually be human at that point. I believe that in any situation it is more fair and just to experience life as it is- with its goods and bads than it is to not experience one at all, which is essentially what it is boiling down to. An existence that is limited to lying on a bed sedated until your death does not justify itself. I say destroy the installation :marseyunabomber:

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you're fricking bananas if you think I'm reading all that, take my downvote and shut up idiot

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