A call to arms for all Ottawa-based lovers of men in dresses reading to children

Okay, dramatards, imagine this.

>seven years old

>summer of 2022

>playing fortnite on mom's iPad

>mom calls

>"Honey, come here, we're going to do something fun! We're gonna go to a story hour!"

>frick yeah

>get in car

>kids bop is playing

>something's off

>a bunch of people are yelling and holding signs

>mom looks anxious

>ohshit.jpg

>cant read so dont know whats going on

>park near the library

>big burly cops with assault rifles around the perimeter

>frick frick frick what is going on

>heart is beating out of chest

>grab mom's leg, we keep walking

>get inside

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Drag has existed for literally centuries

something existing for centuries means it's perfectly acceptable. anyone who disagrees is nothing but a hateful bigot who has no place here.

Canadians and copying american culture war.

Name a more iconic duo.

brave janny deserves a promotion

lol at that janny's most controversial post

are unironically caricatures of Irish people (frizzy red hair, bulbous red nose due to rosacea from alcoholism, ill fitting clothes because theyre poor/starving from the potatoe famine). Its literally but for Irish people and these people dont see the irony in using it to explain why drag is ok. lmao

Drag has existed for literally centuries

Why does it go farther back in history every 3 months?

This guy:

Has much to say about how drag shows aren't sexual and that it's completely fine if kids are exposed to them trans story hour:

https://camas.unddit.com/#{%22author%22:%22PEDANTlC%22,%22resultSize%22:100,%22query%22:%22kids%22}

For one, do you really think a bikini top makes that much of a difference to anyone? If someone is going to sexualize someone that is under age, the little bit of fabric covering their chest isn't going to stop them. But if you've really got a problem with sexualizing minors, you should take it up with the people that do it, not the people that feel more comfortable swimming or tanning shirtless. Finally, young boys go around shirtless and that's not a problem? Do you think p-dophiles only go after little girls? Are you unaware that male chests are considered attractive to people that are into men? Is it more okay if a gay guy or a chick checks out a shirtless 16 year old boy than if the opposite were to check out a shirtless 16 year old girl? Because I don't see you arguing against the former despite it already being something that could happen.

https://old.reddit.com/r/ottawa/comments/6mg8hs/human_rights_complaint_targets_policy_on_female/dk1t0ql/?sort=controversial

"Just like let pre-pubescent girls run around topless, chud."

Also talks a lot about consent, r*pe, kinks, and the potential of harming kids. S*x positive too!

Outside of extremely specific fetishes, when is clownery ever sexual?

>Drag has existed for literally centuries,

Lol wtf this is Orwell-tier.

exposing kids to AGP degenerates to own conservatives lmbo

Linking to threads on other subs?

Being able to ping users?

Calls to action?

I don't really get it's even progressive or pro LGBT to expose kids to drag. No one is fighting to expose kids to burlesque and the arguments that people use for drag reading times could be applied to that. Yes burlesque is totally sexualized but by the same standard, there are probably examples where it isn't.

If a dude is dressed as a woman and it's totally desexualized, then it's probably not drag. Its probably a Benny Hill gag or a WKUK sketch and people would normally laugh. Maybe that's what the proponents are claiming is the drag thats existed for centuries that is just clowning? Then why would it be so important making sure every kid sees White Chicks?

If you are neutral in situations of injustice, you have chosen the side of the oppressor.

Neighbor you wanna dress up in gay outfits and read books to children for some weird reason and people are calling you out on how fricking weird that inclination is. You are not being oppressed by being protested, especially when, for some reason that I still don’t understand, you have the backing of the entire liberal American establishment.

I've seen drag shows, drag brunches and drag storytime and they're all pretty different. If we were encouraging kids to shove dollar bills down the front of a drag queen's shirt as they gyrated on their laps, okay, not great. But that's not what's happening, it never has.

At the last drag storytime I went to in DC, it was just a heap of parents and kiddos in a community space, while these elaborate (and, importantly, sparkly) performers sang a few nursery rhymes, read a couple of books about the importance of being yourself and ended with a rousing rendition of head and shoulders, knees and toes. the kids were absolutely obsessed with their costumes and loved singing, asking questions and posing for pictures and then we all went on our merry way. It was a great experience that sadly was on hiatus during the worst of the pandemic. I, for one, am really excited to see this show up in Ottawa now that we've moved back and I think my car-and-makeup-obsessed 3 year old is going to get a kick out of it, too.

>some clownery is sexual

Outside of niche fetish areas the concept of a clown is not sexual in any way unlike drag which usually has sexual components. It’s such a bizarre comparison I feel stun locked.

This is one of my favorite reddit comments of all time:

Am I not allowed to express my opinion?

Your opinion is wrong though and it's misinformation. You've said that drag culture is sexual, a lot of people have provided evidence and arguments that it's not, and you're still saying that it is. You've just got a wrong and frankly offensive opinion that you're refusing to change despite a lot of effort to convince you otherwise, and people don't appreciate that - especially because your wrong opinion is then used by others as justification that trans people shouldn't exist (and all the implications of what it means for a group of people to not exist).

This is an official warning. Knock it off.

Snapshots:

• undelete.pullpush.io

• archive.org

• ghostarchive.org

• archive.ph (click to archive)

As a gay person myself, I'm curious why drag needs to be "marketed" to kids. The event itself may not be sexualized, but drag culture in general is. There are much better ways to help kids be more accepting of others than these culture-war imports from the US.:

• undelete.pullpush.io

• archive.org

• ghostarchive.org

• archive.ph (click to archive)

/u/fleurgold:

• camas.unddit.com

• archive.org

• ghostarchive.org

• archive.ph (click to archive)

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First of all, frick you. Second of all, frick you. And third of all, frick you.

You're an ignorant butthole who clearly doesn't know anything about the trans community or the struggles we go through on a daily basis. Transphobia is a real and insidious problem that needs too be addressed, not swept under the rug.

So frick you and you're ignorant, bigoted bullshit. And frick you for trying too silence those of us who are trying too make a difference.

TRANS LIVES MATTER

I read this like the lord of rings intro.