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You can't yell fire in a crowded theater.

Every. Fricking. Time. :marseygigaretard:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schenck_v._United_States

Later overturned by

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brandenburg_v._Ohio

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“You’re a fat ugly dude in a dress tho”

>omg this is the same thing as creating a mass panick where people begin running for their lives trampling each other to not die!

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This thread is full of FUDy leaps to extremes

:marseypipe: We should have more intellectual public debates with people pushing misinformation, you can't censor your way out of the problem

:marseysoypoint: nooo Holding a 'debate on racism' is a terrible idea and Nazis will show up in public

Apparently the only people pushing misinformation are neo-nazi racists.

Even if you do invite a literal Nazi are they really too scared to debate a Nazi on a stage and not be able to find someone who can destroy them in public? Especially with a recptive crowd backing them up. They are too scared uninformed people might start noticing things or that their ideas can't stand up without force of government/jannies.

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It's really something else, they're basically admitting their ideas and ethos are so abhorrent that people would rather choose national socialism given the opportunity. If you're afraid you can't compete against actual nazis in the marketplace of ideas you really need to take a hard look at yourself because that's just about the lowest bar there is.

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They don't think fascism is that attractive but they are deeply insecure and extremely self conscious about how repulsive they and their positions as leftists are.

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>movie theater is on fire

>can’t tell anyone because big brain people on Reddit have convinced you it’s illegal

>theater burns to the ground, 20 dead

:marseyclueless:

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This never happens, but if it does it's a good thing.

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I gotta remember this bit lmao

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There was never a case, it was just a comment in the closing notes discussing the possibility

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Censoring anti war protesters?

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The standard they came up with in the original case regarding the anti war protester was "clear and present danger." The US was at war, and speech advocating draft resistant was a danger to society, which is what the government argued and the court agreed with. The fire in a theater thing was just a hypothetical towards the end. They dramatically narrowed that to "imminent lawless action" later.

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Theater fires were a big scary thing back then. It was WWI, so not movie theaters but stage theaters with lots of various forms of lighting that could easily cause fires.

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Nobody ever yelled fire in a crowded theater and went to court it was just a reddit tier example to justify some dumb other unrrealted shit

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The comment comes from dictum in the WW1 pamphlet case. There was a case, but it wasn't a factor in the decision, so it was never law.

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At least he's being downvoted and most of the responses are sane. I don't know why the "fire in a theater" thing persists. I remember hearing it in high school civics even.

it's very difficult to imagine a case where falsely shouting "fire" in a crowded theater would not be directed to inciting imminent lawless action.

Oh. That's why. I forget burgers are r-slurred.

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"We must censor misinformation!"

"You're blatantly misrepresenting that argument and spreading misinformation yourself?"

:marseygigaretard: "but nazis"

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It unironically upsets me when I see these r-slurs spreading that idea because it's so deeply embedded in the public's conscious that people will accept any curtailing of rights because politicians will repeat it and their supporters seal clap every time. It's particularly common as an argument to restrict guns.

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Ultimate proof restricting free speech is such a slippery slope you need to allow yelling "fire" in a crowded theatre.

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I've been tempted to make a bot to correct this misinformation but it'd probably just get banned.

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You can't yell fire in a crowded theater.

Ah alright so then we should ban homosexuals in the army because that could also cause mass panic?

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We should ban blacks in my neighborhood.

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More like every neighborhood.

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Schenck was also a wartime case about a socialist who tried to get people to refuse conscription. Kind of odd that redditors love it so much :marseypregunta:

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:marseykingcrown:

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That sub is the worst of idpol and base corporate dem beliefs.

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None of them have had their own thoughts in years if ever. LIteral NPC's who get their updates from whatever is on the tv that week. Walking talking I support/ i hate the current thing. They're so stupid they haven't figured out the whole misinfo banning is totally a gov't op even after so much of the covid shit that was banned for misinfo turned out to be true

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That’s because of obviously how exhausting it must be to have to shift your beliefs every couple of months. It’s much easier to go read a couple headlines, parrot it back and any deeper inquiry met with mockery.

>“You REALLY believe x? Lol wow”

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>as a former content moderator for a major social media company- :#marseynerd2:

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I tried stalkmaxxing that twink. No luck. He says it's not FB or Twitter (but that itself could be purposeful disinfo). Anyone know which social media company has a 12 strike rule for individual violations? He says his company had 12 strikes for hate speech = ban, for example.

Yes, I have receipts. And yes, if you're a journ*list, feel free to DM me.

Really reminds me I need to get a journo larp account up and running. I think there's a way to do it to make it look legit, at least on the surface.

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but that itself could be purposeful disinfo

Then he should be imprisoned for spreading disinformation. We need the American Stazi to correct all of this.

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You just have to buy a domain ($10 / year) and set up outlook ($2 per person per month on godaddy) then you can send email from newyorkgazette.com or whatever the frick domain you can find that's available.

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I don’t know if I agree, but I get it. Online misinformation resulted in an attempted coup and far fewer people getting a vaccine than what should have happened. Democracy and lives are at stake

:#npc:

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All this sounds ominous until you realise how few people today would willingly describe themselves as 'a liberal'.

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Especially coming from Cato, whom have a vested interest in making liberals seem insane

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>ask basic questions

>get basic answers

:#marseyschizowall:

They're making liberals look stupid! It's a conspiracy! There are no stupid, freedom-hating liberals!!!! :marseycryingfast:

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Most democrats arent liberals

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They are if they vote

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By that logic Repubs are libs too

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yes.

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No conservatives are republican if they vote republicans, and liberals and democracts and entierly equally equivalent they just pretend to be something otherwise because theyre r-slurred

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for burgers left = liberal

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Maybe in your state. The anti liberal leftists are not as widespread as they seem when you are in the art-school section of campus.

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The paradox of tolerance states that I can’t tolerate any opinions right of Bernie sanders. Checkmate

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neolibs propound that rock-bottom interest rates and QE are good policy. Should I heckin genocide them for spreading misinformation?


:#marseydarkpizzashill: The Democratic RethugliKKKan Party will collapse by 2030. :#marseydarkpizzashill:

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Bad economic policy kills more people than misgendering but commies and libertarians are protected, just pass a hate speech bill toward the poor which criminalizes promoting bad economic policy.

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We should just make inflation illegal

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Zimbabwe has entered the chat

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Should I heckin genocide them

:#marseyagreefast:

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:#chadyes:

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When Pew Research Center inevitably falls to liberal ideology it will truly be over.

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Of course this "content moderator" misses the point

That in the end he was useless and all "misinformation" censorship is r-slurred and just peepeesucking the government.

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Jannie protecting the philosophical basis of his station of 'power' that normal people need to be sheparded and democracy needs to a firm guiding hand to prevent people from making the wrong decision. If you're going to go this far then just embrace Chinese Democracy where the state selects the acceptable opinions so people can understand what is a nono opinion. Just make the oppression overt so that we don't have to play pretend anymore.

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Hate speech laws are pretty much bog standard in the western world, which you guys still see as liberal, so I don’t really see a contradiction here.

I HATE LIBERALS I HATE LIBERALS I HATE LIBERALS I HATE:killherkillher::killherkillher::killherkillher::killherkillher::killherkillher::killherkillher:

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Half of all liberals hate liberty!?

:#marseypikachu2:

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Ban economic hate speech against the poor, only accredited economist can speak on economic matters and all socialists, communists, libertarians, and anyone promoting reparations should be jailed for committing social murder against the poor. Promoting bad tax and trade policy is too dangerous to allow it to spoken freely.

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The economists are like half libertarians.


:#marseytwerking:

:marseycoin::marseycoin::marseycoin:
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The median PhD economist is a moderate Democrat, for largely cultural reasons.

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Neoliberal?

:marseyburgers:


:#marseytwerking:

:marseycoin::marseycoin::marseycoin:
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I don’t know if I agree, but I get it. Online misinformation resulted in an attempted coup and far fewer people getting a vaccine than what should have happened. Democracy and lives are at stake

I hate these people.


https://i.rdrama.net/images/17121718107069042.webp

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You mean to tell me neolibs abandoned the lib part? Say it ain’t so!

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:marseyglow:

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You mean to tell me neolibs abandoned the lib part? Say it ain’t so!

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It's tenet, OP. I thought Nolan would've stopped people from making that error.


:#marseydarkpizzashill: The Democratic RethugliKKKan Party will collapse by 2030. :#marseydarkpizzashill:

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Thanks, I'm an r-slur.

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alright look, i think im just gonna bounce if people like this are gonna create a toxic environment from day one. this person is clearly mentally unstable. fixating for over a day on the fact the i apparently downvoted a post of theirs.

I wish you luck @Aevann with this project and i'll hang around the site, but I really am not looking for a dumper fire in threads from someone like this

later all

Snapshots:

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Authoritarianism is unavoidable. You just have to become emperor/senator yourself and to experience they joy of power.

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Half :marseyscalped: of all liberals hate :marseycupidangry: liberty!?

:#marseypikachu2:

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