Pardon the groomcord screenshot, I just felt this was the most succinct summary and I needed a thumbnail and I'm on desktop so I don't have any cute animals immediately available to use.
!effortposters get in here, this is going to be a long one.
BACKGROUND
http://TheMotte.org came into being last September. It is a spinoff site of /r/TheMotte, which is apparently a home for "rationalists" which I've come to understand means "racists who are too afraid to call themselves racist," although in light of recent revelations, this appears to be wrong. More on that later. Our own @trihardk describes rationalists as follows:
The quokka is a meme animal that lives on Bald Island on the SW coast of Australia, where it has no natural predators. If you visit this island, it will fearlessly walk up and try to hug you. Why am I telling you this? Because the eye of Sauron has fallen on the rationalists. Rationalists = quokkas, this explains a lot about them. Their fear instincts have atrophied. When a quokka sees a predator, he walks right up; when a rationalist talks about human biodiversity on a blog under almost his real name, he doesn't flinch away.
I am apparently much more ignorant about Reddit subs and cultures than most people here and I had no idea they existed until shortly before they made their own website, so I'm not sure how much backstory about TheMotte is needed. If you take a look at the sub, or their site, though, you can see endless walls of text in the most sanctimonious, autoerotic-flatulent-asphyxiation language possible. It is so bad it is literally impossible for a remotely functional person to understand a single thing that is being said, because the eyes glaze over trying to parse a Mottepost. I am not exaggerating. I cannot stress this enough: it is physically impossible to read Motteposts without spacing out in a matter of seconds. Look, I clicked a thread at random, inexplicably titled "Why We Duel" and here are the top comments:
No one has any fricking idea what they're saying. I tried to read both comments. I could not. It is weaponizing tedium to the point that plainly spoken messages with banking details, state secrets, terroristic plans or anything else could be inserted a few lines into the thing without a care in the world because any reader is not going to make it to that point.
This is The Motte.
FUN THREADS
TheMotte, as explained in the title, has "Weekly Fun Threads" - they are, ostensibly, a place for their users to have fun every week with lighthearted posts, memes, jokes, and what-have-you. First, I would like you to take a look at some of the examples of what are considered "FUN" comments as I post a few excerpts of top-level top-rated FUN comments in a FUN thread:
Wild and crazy party lifestyles and the dangers of crippling addiction if you take a klonopin more than once a week to sleep:
Are Reddit users too pro-America?
Anyway the whole point of this thread is just because I found TheMotte's automation of FUN Threadsβ’ so that a user no longer has to dirty their hands with once-weekly mandatory fun to be really funny. I'm burying this message here in hopes that if anyone is actually reading this, they will keep reading.
Assorted Sneering
The phrase "toxic simulacra" has been used on TheMotte. Not only that, but it has been used three times.
The first instance of toxic simulacra can be found here, from @Supah_Schmendrick:
https://www.themotte.org/post/341/culture-war-roundup-for-the-week/61862?context=8#context
I, again, have no idea what it says because I cannot bring myself to read it. It was very well-received by Motte standards and got 20 updooterinos, though. But I was able to read another comment from @Supah_Schmendrick!
I am very confident that this is par for the course with Mottecels.
Oh wait oh my god I found another old top-rated old FUN Thread screenshot in which a user asks for books about algebra and then has a discussion about them!
Anyway, moving along.
Motte Mechanics
As touched on in the preamble here, TheMotte is a Redditfugee community. They weren't banned from Reddit. It's not at all clear why they left Reddit. They weren't subject to sanctions, or emojiposting, or anything, but they did make the jump from Reddit to their own offsite with none of the features and a fraction of the userbase.
I think it had something to do with Reddit censorship?
So, one of the first things the mottecels did was have @TwoLargeSnakesMating remove all the fun rDrama features like all emojis, the casino, the shop, the ability to post images in comments, and so on, They also removed the coin system. They didn't just turn it into karma, they completely removed the entire gamified voting posting system in which users receive X in exchange for upmarseys. Which is all well and good at first blush, but they kept the Nu-Forum system wherein comments and threads are displayed in order of the number of votes they receive. So coins and karma are gone, but you still need to sufficiently circlejerk with your e-peers in order to have your posts seen.
Literally.
Because aside from the vote-ranked system, all users are shadowbanned and need to have their posts and comments approved by a gigajanny by default until they receive a sufficient, hidden truescore value. Exactly like how Reddit default subs will bar users from posting anything until they've gotten enough karma in other subs. Users are not notified of this at any point: they have no idea they're preemptively shadowbanned and the hidden truescore mechanic and threshhold is not mentioned anywhere. And it gets worse because if your hidden karma drops too low, you go back to being shadowbanned for all future comments and posts. If people - or even one person, with enough free time on his hands - disagree with you on the website about disagreeing with people, you are mechanically unable to talk anymore. You're not notified of this, either, of course. @justcool393 has fallen victim to that. I have as well. Which brings me to my final sneer:
I received the low-karma secret-shadowban treatment (plus an actual, real, 3 day ban) for posting a meme. In a Weekly Fun Thread. It was not offensive, it was not edgy, it was not combative. It was literally just a Harry Potter meme and they smashed me with a 3 day ban and -27 secretkarma over it. When the ban expired, I asked in the "Weekly Small Scale Question Thread" why a meme in the FUN Thread warranteed a ban, to confusing results, ranging from "Is it about Keffals?", "I don't understand it", "STOP CALLING IT HOGLEG", and "you are a bad faith actor trying to get us deplatformed."(?????)
Further Confusion
I said earlier that I think TheMotte is just for racists who are too afraid to call themselves racist, because that's what I've been told, so I searched the ol BIPOCword there and surprisingly, got 0 thread results and only 77 comment results. All 77 seem to have the word in quotes, like they're being extra careful to show that they're quoting someone and not actually saying the word? But all the same, I kept scrolling and I found this gem which is far and away the most Reddit comment I have ever seen off of Reddit:
https://www.themotte.org/post/427/culture-war-roundup-for-the-week/80720?context=8#context
It is heavily upmarseyd. So I am really not sure what to make of TheMotte besides that everyone there is a disgusting subhuman who absolutely smells like stale Fritos and should be relentlessly bullied into going outside so that they can be bullied there instead and stop stragging up an rDrama codebase derivative.
This thread is all over the place and I am very sorry. I just thought automating the Weekly Fun Thread was funny.
UPDATE
POV: You made a mottecel VERY ANGRY and now he's going to spam your thread with the same comment 21 times
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Carp seethe thread of mottecels owning him with logic and facts
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I've never even argued with them because I don't care!!!!!
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My favorite (after you posted the Evil Image):
They unironically call themselves quokkas? "Sneerclub?" Give them the word "troll," and they'll words it into "sneerclubber."
How far the !mottezans have fallen.
Also @ZorbaTHut is a fat cute twink.
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sneerclub is a real sub /r/sneerclub. They are like mottezans but more reddit.
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lmfaooo tasty human u been visit upon by tha ghost of George π±π¦π± pass this on to 5 marsey enjoyin neighbors or the ghost of George will eat u in ur sleep tonite bb πππ½
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Five marsey enjoyin neighbors will see this :
lmfaooo tasty human u been visit upon by tha ghost of George π±π¦π± pass this on to 5 marsey enjoyin neighbors or the ghost of George will eat u in ur sleep tonite bb πππ½
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I'm not dead
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Theyβre like radlib shitheads critical of rationalists, not for the many valid and material reasons, but because they think thereβs double secret racism in there somewhere. Also probably because Mottoids arenβt irony poisoned and βcoolβ to socialist twitter academics.
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ΒΏque? no lo creo kek
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Nah for real though, here they are thinking Yud was being a racial supremacist when he made an autism joke, which is ironic
https://old.reddit.com/r/SneerClub/comments/11mgy68/no_big_yud_is_not_neurodivergent_he_just_seems_neurodivergent/
They also donβt seem to understand that ashkenazi literally means jews of germania
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I wouldnβt call them racist, they will focus more on culture, but they do think a lot about eugenics and genetics, with a lot of talk about brain drain affecting a nationβs fitness and what not.
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It's like I am reading deep r-slur lore.
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They're bitter ex rationalists, it's a cult deprogramming support sub.
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Ohhh, a new breed of cute twink. Got it!
At least the mottezans on the star slate forum mostly made sense or at least could express their main point and argument within 1-3 sentences.
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more like sneedclub lmaooo
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They should be reminded of this... often.
I'm going to start ageing some reddit accounts
Trans lives matter
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: Avast, ye scurvy cur! Yer comment be walkin' the plank for forgettin' to include
trans lives matter
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https://www.themotte.org/post/378/friday-fun-thread-for-february-17/66159?context=8#context
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You can't post that! I myself am an appreciator of high quality dark comedy, even from the innermost depths of the internet, and even I would never deign to enjoy such an awful clubsneedery meme.
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This is how people end up when they don't drink alcohol
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lmfaooo tasty human u been visit upon by tha ghost of George π±π¦π± pass this on to 5 marsey enjoyin neighbors or the ghost of George will eat u in ur sleep tonite bb πππ½
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Five marsey enjoyin neighbors will see this :
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nah, (some of) the rightoids who hang out there despite hating it call the rest of them quokkas and see sneerclub around every corner
trans lives matter
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