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EFFORTPOST The Reddit-Ultra soy which posted the Greedfall screed about colonialism yesterday in r/truegayming has a long history of sneeding about gayming philosophy and posting wordsoup nonsense about games in general.

https://www.undelete.pullpush.io/r/truegaming/comments/9cc0w9/spec_ops_the_line_is_a_proimperialism_piece_even

Greetings Dramastrags, today I wanna talk about

https://old.reddit.com/user/Atimo3/comments/?sort=top

@MenAreWorst told me to go looking at his post history, and hoo boi. Our Colombian friend is a mega ultra-soy whom has been the typical contrarian anti-west leftoid for at least 5 years. I wasn't gonna mine the whole of his bullcrap posting, but I did find something that caught my eye: 4 years ago he also posted a wordsoup nonsense post about Spec OPS - The Line, filled with thesaurus big words and rambling which made no sense once you thought about them, and you know...actually played the fricking game.

https://www.undelete.pullpush.io/r/truegaming/comments/9cc0w9/spec_ops_the_line_is_a_proimperialism_piece_even/

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This galaxy brain r-slur :marseybigbrain: main issue with the game is its source material, the infamous Heart of Darkness novel of 1899 which was situated in the Free State Congo, you know when our delightful Belguin friends decided amputating native hands was a good idea as recreation for their mercenary soldiers in the colonial province. The ultra-soy goes full Presentism and applies modern values to the 100 year old book, because there is racial slurs and bigotry in the book, our Soyboy is too much of a navel-gazing moron to understand how unabashedly revolutionary it was for its time, for critiqueing the brutality of colonial powers over natives, and the (at the time) very progressive notion that "civilized" nations can be just as barbaric as the native "savages" that they looked down upon. But Ultra-soy clearly doesn't see that and just goes full :soycry: because a man born back in 1899 doesn't have the same views on race as 2020 :marseyretard2::marseybeanannoyed:

https://i.rdrama.net/images/16817213349518952.webp

The idiot in his next point goes full r-slur and completely misinterprets one of the main fricking themes of the game: namely that: that cultural chauvanism and blind self exceptionalism lead to the disasterous events and atrocities in the game. It's like he came out with the absolute exact opposite of what the game wastrying to say. But then again our Columbian friend had the Notion of America Bad before he probably began playing (if he even did), as Spec Ops is literally the biggest critic of burgerland military chauvinism. Like how the frick do you miss the point that much??

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Anyways, 4 years ago the soyification and trainification of Preddit wan't yet complete, because the denizens of /r/truegayming wasn't swallowing his bullcrap.

They basically keelhaul OP, and dismantle his garbage - top comment says it all:


https://www.undelete.pullpush.io/r/truegaming/comments/9cc0w9/_/e59mbdw/#comment-info

"Firstly, if you're trying to write a serious piece, cool it with the wanky snark. Fricking heck man. It'd be bearable if it was funny or creative, now you just come across like a proper tosser.

Secondly: Everything else. Spec Ops' connection with Heart of Darkness is one of the greatest myths about the game. Sadly since we live in a time where fewer and fewer people read, not many has read the Conrad novel, this is the only reason I can guess why this myth persists and to me it doesn't sound liek even you've read it. Aside from a very similar premise and a reference (the colonel being named Conrad rather than Kurtz) they've barely got anything else in common. Heart of Darkness being about the progression between the darkest jungles of Africa (and the haunting things happening there) and the heart of civilized Europe, with the point of the novel penultimately being that the difference between the two is upheld by an illusion (Marlow lying to Kurtz's wife about his last words being about her rather than the infamous "The horror" and then remarking how nothing came to punish him for this lie, the illusion of romance and goodness goes on).

You've also misunderstood the criticism Achebe has, obviously equating Africa with uncivilized savagery and peril isn't painting a nuanced picture of the ones who live on the continent, also since no Africans held any prominence they themselves (alsong with the continent) is upheld as a great big other, an understandable complaint. Summarising this with "Conrad was so racist lol" is so unbelievably reductive that it does no favors to anyone, especially those unfamiliar with this.

Also:

The Vietnamese civilian is at best a noble savage and at worst a hooker saying β€œme so horny”.

That's Kubricks Full Metal Jacket, not Apocalypse Now.

Even disregarding all of this, the point of "Spec Ops being based on a book a hundred years ago [wrong] which was very racist [wrong] means the game is racist" is ridiculous. Unless you mean racism carry through a source material like a DNA gene, that's just an absurd point being made. I don't even wanna bother arguing with it, every work stands on its own.

Moving on...

Your complaint that Spec Ops supports the intervention of Conrad is both unsupported (you cite nothing in the game which would support this view, just makes claims) and wrong. In fact much of the game directly contradicts this view. Conrad's attempt to hold order is disastrous, and the city is involved in a large civil war before Walker even arrives. Heck, it's turned out so badly Conrad, a decorated and experienced war hero, shot himself out of shame and regret. There's an audio log which mentions the harsher and harsher penalties the soldiers were carrying out. The dilemma of shooting the water thief vs the soldier, though a hallucination, supports the view that the intervention was a disaster. The soldiers were even mass executing their own and hanging them from lamp posts, it's just chaos.

My final point:

You've done this critique and either missed or ignored the entire point of the game. The plot and setting is meant to be excessively shooter-like. Walker is supposed to be the archetypical shooter protagonist who goes in guns blazing, never stops and never ones questions he's doing the right thing. The game's connection with American imperialism only goes so far as other shooter are celebrating the American imperialism and Spec Ops forced to include that angle as well. Even if the game flubbed on this (which it didn't) it still wasn't the main point of the game and would not discredit the point being made."


Also did I say that Spec Ops was based on Heart of Darkness, I lied, it's only influenced by it, the stories are very different with different core stakes, only the naming of main "antagonist" in the game is a direct reference for influence. But Atimo3 being a Pop-culture philosopher sure as heck doesn't know that, I bet the dumbfok has probably not even read Heart of Darkness, and just gossiped between his leftoid Uni group about how one of their English Literature prescribed influencial books that they read in their course gave them racism PTSD or something and he only regurgitate the same shitlib talking points.


Other comments also tear him a new butthole

https://www.undelete.pullpush.io/r/truegaming/comments/9cc0w9/_/e59p3f8/#comment-info

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https://i.rdrama.net/images/168172133571245.webp

https://www.undelete.pullpush.io/r/truegaming/comments/9cc0w9/_/e59nkos/#comment-info

https://i.rdrama.net/images/1681721336059062.webp


The wimp ends up deleting his post and inane comments but we here at drama.net have even bigger autismos to document his nonsense! :marseyevilgrin:\


UPDATE:

Looks like our wimpy mods made a totally unrelated modpost on /r/truegaming today! Looks like the chuddery of yesterday's Greedfall colonialism slapfight :slapfight: got beneath the wokescold's skins. I'm quite certain this is a total coincidence :marseyclueless: Also, does anyone else not the see the Greedfall post on /r/truegaming, did the cowards remove it?

https://old.reddit.com/r/truegaming/comments/12ot55r/minor_rules_update/

https://i.rdrama.net/images/16817394129520586.webp

Looks like so many denizens still being too chuddy for the attempted soyification of the sub has meant that damage control

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Everything about that spec ops game I’ve seen looks eye rollingly surface level critique of violence or whatever. Like something an 18 year old would write. Wheeehhh the game calls you a bad man for… playing it as intended. More proof that video games absolutely are not art

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Some video games are art. But there’s a very good reason why Minecraft is the top selling game ever.

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Name one (can't name wadanohara and the great blue sea challenge)

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Dark Souls.

It's literally the most important art piece in any artistic field since 2000.

R-slurs please disagree and mald in the replies.

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Why is your soul so dark haha

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The "story" is crazy nonsense and the aesthetics are 100% 90% plagiarized (admitedly so arguably) but the entire experience is pure artistic excelence.

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You could almost say it has a very dark soul haha

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:soysnoo:

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Dark Souls led to BLACKSOULS led to these Marseys :marseycheshire2: :marseycheshire3: :marseycheshire4: :marseyredhood: :marseyalice: :marseyalice2: :marseyleaf: :marseyleafsmiling: :marseyvictoria: :marseyvictoria2: so I'm inclined to agree.

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Shadow of the Colossus

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I’m not doing emotional labor for you :#marseyindignant:

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Spore

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Journey

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Link to the Past. Pure ludo that one

Also Planescape Torment. I guess.


:#marseydarkpizzashill: The Democratic RethugliKKKan Party will collapse by 2030. :#marseydarkpizzashill:

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Darkest Dungeon

The Binding of Isaac

Arcanum: of Steamworks and Magic Obscura

Hotline Miami 1 & 2

BLACKSOULS I & II

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Why does miami have such a hot line maybe they should put some ice on it

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Exo One. Pure kino.

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If it was possible to actually be a hero in the game it might not have flopped.

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I think you're just seething that the game is anti war and "woke".

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No I’m pretty sure it’s just a childish narrative being praised by leftoid g*mers because it’s a slightly different shooter man game and since games have no artistic value they think it’s art

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>the guy who salutes and says "thank you for your service" to military members while lining up at McDonald's thinks he knows what is and isn't art

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The heck are you on about. I’m a goddarn. Marine. Frick off and welcome to my killfile.

PLONK

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Oh shit, it's the frickin navy seal guy

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