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MensLib discover that respecting women results in a dry peepee, spill red pills all over the place

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This is who calls you an incel on the internet:

Yeah, some boys/men will go too far into other direction and be terrified of interacting with women in any romantic or sexual context. It is understandable, but boy did I miss some opportunities because of that mindset.

I'm a grown-butt man, considered friendly, trustworthy and outgoing but I'm still struggling with this. Do you have any advice on how to reach a good balance?

I'm nearing 30. I've internalized the "leave women alone at all times" and "men are trash" rhetoric so hard that I almost consider myself a burden to them simply by existing. I've gone out of my way to minimize interactions with women because I've catastrophized that my mere presence is bothersome.

Just wanted to say this article pretty neatly describes my teenage years, and that behavior hasn’t really left. Sure makes thing difficult… it’s hard to explain when people say things like “just ask them out” or “you need to get….” You can imagine the words, but in any case, there’s no real guide to getting out of this space.

Just the idea of asking someone out in real life makes me cringe.

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Young men need to understand that they are not required to respect any particular norm or neuroticism. You are your own agent and you will drive yourself in the interests of yourself and those you care about. Aka: piss people off, apologize if you feel you should, and then do it again.

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I learned this way too late. Also to apologize and grovel less.

Life feels so much more fulfilling this way.

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I'm starting to realize that you guys have this kind of blueprint for success because it IS the best way to be and is the least pathetic way to exist- while being an incel. None of my perspectives or lifestyle advice meaningfully touches on the needs or available resources of an incel, and so when I suggest something or just exist the way I do, our arguments just don't meaningfully interact; passing by eachother like ships in the night.

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I actually got way more gussy with the "incel" blueprint for success

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Qhat os the incel blueprint for success

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That frickin' rocks, if you're into that. That sounds aloof and dismissive but I feel like I'm reaching for some weird abstract idea here, about what one's wants are and how that shapes what success is/the best ways to get it.

To be honest, I think moids that struggle, the majority of them, should prioritize and think like this, for their own self-interest in this not-ideal social set up. And then, when they are secure, established socially, or just ready for something else, they can try something more "high minded" or other ideas of success. Feels like things are bass-ackwards with how the socially inept turn to other ideas as a cope instead of treating it like a finishing touch or varnish for their self-actualization.

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So true bestie :marseyfluffy:

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