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We actually have some of the most humane ways to kill animals now. There's a piston that kills cows instantly they don't even feel pain anymore.
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Yeah I built one of those in minecraft once
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How the frick would you know? Cow's dead, it's not like you can ask it "hey did that hurt when I smashed your skull open?"
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You can tell if something is unconcious and can feel pain. There's a cutoff for unconcious reaction. Nearly all mammals are similar enough to humans to assume it's the same for nearly everything. We test human stuff on rats for example. For example if someone is knocked out and you stab them in the leg, their body will react in a contorting fashion even if they don't wake up. If you don't move at all, you cannot feel it. It's like a bullet to the brain but no risk to the user as there are no bullets to speak of.
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Yeah maybe. But maybe it's not that simple, and just because something looks unconscious doesn't necessarily mean it is
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I'm sure they got slaughtering figured out it's been like 2k years lol
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I'm sure they've got the part where the animal dies working alright.
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Take it or leave 10 to 30 seconds what does it matter.
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I like meat but just to devils advocate, I'd say the act of dying is probably one of the worst experiences anything could go through considering organisms are built in such a way that anything "wrong" sends whatever signal it can to the individual's thinker making it react in subconscious ways like pain.
Even if you want to, your body doesn't want to die and will almost always flood you with dread and "get me the frick out of here" responses until you're too weak to process those feelings anymore.
That said, steak is tasty and skipping this process in animals seems like the best way to compromise here.
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Too bad the thing that βsends whatever signalsβ is obliterated by a steel rod instantaneously.
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Dying is probably a beat experience for any animal, so it's just the right thing to do to slaughter livestock in a way that minimizes pain. You don't need a big brain or language to know that you're dying painfully.
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I doubt they anaesthesise cows before they kill them, bigbrain
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It's not only anaesthesia. There are other conditions where somebody appears completely unresponsive but is actually aware and cognizant the entire time.
All I'm saying is consciousness is not well understood, and animal consciousness even less so.
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I'd like someone to appear unconscious but actually be alert with a steel rod through their brain.
Unironically r-slurred
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Same thing though. The piston completely destroys the source of consciousness so itβs not as comparable to making someone go under.
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None of those circumstances involve a completely severed nerve stem. There are zero cases of someone with brains leaking out their skull being unresponsive but aware.
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Why are you believing a lie a foid made up for attention? Iβm guessing you also believe in fibromyalgia and Michael Jacksonβs accusers.
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That is chemical paralysis which is not intended to kill the patient.
I get your point that things donβt always happen according to plan.
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Itβs more humane than how we kill people. If I had to pick that or whatever the frick we inject into death row inmates Iβd choose the piston.
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Tbh if you are in death row you probably dont deserve a humane death anyway
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Inhumane is one thing, but why is death row so expensive?
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Because liberals want to keep criminals alive longer so they can vote for them, duh
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Convicted felons can't vote
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They can now in Florida.
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Lawyer fees
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Well how the frick do you know if we started skinning every cow alive then leaving it to bleed out to death it even felt pain? For all we know cows don't feel pain and we are all just wasting our time pretending they have souls.
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heated Cartesian moment
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We probably loaded up a bunch of cows with electrodes and then blew their brains out with different devices, funded by big ag.
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Is Jimie a vegan?
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Killing is okay as long as the victim doesn't feel pain, that's why I only kill people in their sleep
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Even if what you're saying is true -- that they don't feel pain when slaughtered -- their entire existence being uncomfortable factory farm bullshit is what I find more conversation-worthy. Being killed painlessly doesn't exactly compensate for a life of misery. I'd take a briefly painful death over a long, painful life.
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I too have seen No Country for Old Men.
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