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what didnt u like about skyfall
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Bond loses.
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i thought you were going to say something more substantial like how on the nose and inappropriate the meta storytelling elements are
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I feel like all of that is summed up adequately by "Bond loses."
It's not a Bond movie as much as a deconstruction of Bond movies, which isn't what I want when I go to see a Bond movie.
Somewhere there's a guy who loves it for all the reasons I hate it, but I'm not that guy.
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see i feel like i dont mind if they deconstructed Bond movies because Goldeneye is fantastic, but Skyfall I think is too reliant on it being a metaphor for the series having to get its groove back. With Goldeneye the deconstruction is in pointing out the character's flaws and the flaws in the government he works for, which the movie itself sets up so you understand. with skyfall you need to not only be familiar with Bond movies but catch what it's trying to do to like it
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See, I don't mind that Goldeneye is a deconstruction because in that movie Bond kicks butt and wins.
In Skyfall Bond gets shot, fricks up a lot and then loses, that's not what I want to see regardless of the reason for it.
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yea but bond literally dies in the newest one. how is that different
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The villain has larger goals which Bond successfully stops.
I already said this to Carp, if M had died taking out a badass villain who wanted to end the world, that would have been fine by me.
In Skyfall the villain's entire goal is to kill M. He succeeds at this completely. Bond then kills him, which doesn't matter because he was already suicidal. It's pathetic.
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I have absolutely no idea what the villainβs motivations or goal was in the new Bond movie.
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