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[Drama-ish] Anybody here watched the newly released Foundation tv series? Surely there's at a few nerds who appreciate the real book series and I've seen the first 3 episodes and will probably watch the last 2 tonight

A recent comment here on this website (about 20 minutes ago) reminds me of a pretty good scene from it.

https://rdrama.net/post/19389/i-cant-read-this-but-i/482867/?context=10#context

[disclaimer: I pirated it, I don't normally steal, but frick apple and Foundation is too important to the world of sci-fi for me not to at least check it out and to see how its interpreted]

https://esquire.com/entertainment/tv/a37709921/foundation-book-to-show-differences-apple-tv/

The problem is, Foundation is notoriously unadaptable. Firstly, the series operates on a massive scale that would frighten most filmmakers into turning tail and running the other way. The first installment alone spans 200 years, while the series writ large transpires across 600 years. Second, Foundation is a novel of ideas, not of characters. Most mid-century works of what scholars call โ€œhard science fictionโ€ share this trait: these are high-minded stories of weighty intellectual themes, which prioritize airtight scientific rigor over character-driven narratives. Foundation is a brilliant series, but you wonโ€™t find much in the way of character development or emotional beats here; what youโ€™ll find are scantily sketched characters, most of them white men, conversing at length about the fate of the Galactic Empire. If youโ€™re looking for epic space battles and wrenching character deaths, look elsewhere, because in the world of Foundation, most deaths are just the casualties of timeโ€™s inexorable march. In a cosmically massive story, they barely merit a paragraph.

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I have already posted on this.

The main thing that's good about the series so far is Lee Pace and the fact that he has managed to take his shirt off in every episode so far. It is, however painfully dull and I'm not impressed that the best parts of the series so far (the Empire stuff and the three Emperors) is completely not in the book.

Wish they'd made a series of the Elijah Bailey/ Daniel Olivaw robot novels instead. Especially as a couple of major elements from those books are in this series (the spacers, mentions of robots and a certain character who I will not spoil).

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Oh, I missed your posting about it, but I had just watched the first few last night.

This story is just so not one that would be adaptable to movie or tv. Too cerebral (the books), and the adaptation has to be changed so much to appeal to the kind of people who can't read or follow that kind of story. Even though it is changed so much, it is still entertaining enough so far. Even still, it's not for everybody.

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The first Foundation book was originally published in a magazine called Astounding Science Fiction (edited by John W. Cambell, writer of "Who Goes There?" the story upon which John Carpenter's The Thing is based) as a series of four short stories called "The Thousand Year Plan". Asimov added a fifth story (The Trial of Hari Seldon which was actually quite closely followed in the first episode of the show) and the whole thing was published together as a book for the first time in the early 50s.

He wrote four more novellas which were collected in two more sequel novels. He also wrote three or four 'Empire' books which are set during the hey-day of the Empire before the Cleon Dynasty (who were not clones in the book).

He came back to it in the 70s and 80s writing a prequel and two sequel novels which many people don't like but I do.

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I enjoyed Lee Pace in halt and catch fire, hope this is another good role for him

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Oh he's great.

He and two other actors play a triad of Emperor clones, Dawn, Day and Dusk.

Day (played by Pace) rules the universe with the assistance of his predecessor Dusk and both train Dawn to replace them when the time comes. When Dusk reaches the same age as the original Emperor was when he died, he An Heroes by walking into the ceremonial microwave and Day becomes the new Dusk, Dawn becomes the new Day and a new Dawn is popped out of the incubator to keep the cycle going. Needless to say, they are incredibly fricked up people and their story is much, much more interesting than anything else in the show.

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