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EFFORTPOST Lawcel gets snubbed on groomercord, causes Valve to demonetize all Dota 2 arcade games and then smug posts about it r/dota2 (gets himself doxxed)

https://old.reddit.com/r/DotA2/comments/15kb7wr/statement_i_wrote_the_arcade_gdpr_complaint_to

								

								

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Backstory

Recently valve announced they were demonizing all Dota 2 arcade games, which caused a ton of people to get mad. People had already bought various micro transactions for these games, and a bunch of them were shutting down since they had "development costs" and no income. OP claims to have caused this directly.

Sunsfan is a caster involved in professional Dota 2 and is basically the walking embodiment of a redditor. He is heavily involved in the creation of a Dota 2 arcade game called Ability Arena.

https://i.rdrama.net/images/16914012237315922.webp

Bonus video of him and his wife being robbed while she livestreams on twitch with timestamps in the description

Here is a thread that is mentioned a lot from the day before, where they link a video and explain the changes to Dota 2 arcade that spawned this thread

It's basically "we wanted to make it better but valve couldn't so we took part in the shady business practices :)"

The Post

The linked post itself is worth reading but I will post the best parts.

TLDR: Sunsfan ran a highly illegal operation (GDPR, Tax, IP) knowingly from start to finish and now shifts the blame to me (for reporting as well as fabricating lies what actually happened) and Valve (For not coming up with a solution to fix the shady mess).

Let's start at the beginning: Sunfan stated in his video that an individual came to his Groomercord in an "aggressive manner", threatened peoples life, insulting them (Sunsfan, Jenkins and the "volunteer") and told them a GDPR notice will be send out because his "volunteer" did not give me access because of a wrong screenshot to the immortal rank groomercord channel.

This is somewhat 10% true and 90% Sunsfan fan-fiction to shit on me as well as Valves decision to shut them down.

What really went down:

I got linked a groomercord server to get better Ability Arena lobbies by a friend because public matchmaking was not good. After I joined I followed the procedure to get approved by sending a screenshot. After a few hours, I checked back and saw that the request was denied. Being puzzled why I was denied, I pinged a person (the "volunteer" Sunsfan is speaking about) in the Groomercord with a "Support" tag to ask, why I was denied.

The "volunteer" answered that I should not ping her/him via Groomercord notification because she/her had "more important things to do". I was pretty baffled to get this answer by someone whose whole purpose in the groomercord server is to verify and vouch players to play in these immortal lobbies.

So I checked who the "volunteer" is doing the groomercord "support" stuff to vouch/verify players. Why would someone who is so busy take a support role in the groomercord in the first place to handle these requests?

Turns out the "volunteer" is his wife, also known as Sajedene. Pinging her highness to actually do her job was a mistake!

This guy just sounds like he's a chuddy lawcel :chudcheers:

In the meantime, I tried to figure out what I did wrong regarding the screenshot, found the error after some time, and re-uploaded a correct version.

I proceeded to say that if she is so busy, why she would even take the role as a volunteer to vouch/verify players and that they should build something into groomercord to automatically assign the roles so she does not need to be bothered by plebs like me. I proceeded to tell her that a correct version of the screenshot is now available.

Her answer was that she decided to vouch me later on, but "because of my attitude" she would not and that I should basically frick off. At this point stuff went south and I said a few things about her relevancy in the scene which have been certainly below the waist line but not too bad overall because it was technically true. But I still never threatened anyone life nor did I insult Jenkins apart from telling him to build a system to automate the verification process. I simply attacked Sunsfans decision to hire his wife to do the support role when she is clearly not fit to do so and rather let some community people who play Ability Arena handle it.

How did I come with the GDPR violation? (I am a specialized in GDPR Law due to my profession)

This guy is clearly seething and being rejected from a groomercord server but that's irrelevant at this point

What happened next:

I told Sunsfan that they are violating the GDPR and that they will have to cease operations soon (I already knew the outcome of Valves investigation long before it started, the question was only how much time will pass). He laughed at me, told me I am free to do whatever I want (He admitted in his stream that he does not even know what the GDPR is) and reset my account to Herald as a joke. After the reset, he posted a proud announcement that he "reset" my account back to Herald as a punishment. This had nothing to do with GDPR. To be fair, it was quite funny!

After that, Valves Legal Team contacted me, and asked if there is anything I want in particular regarding my Data. I told them to delete all of it since Sunsfan ignore my Article 15 request (Right of access by the data subject) send by mail (also on 1. April 2023).

Some time after that, Sunsfan was forced by Valve directly to reset my Account back to Herald, but this time because of GDPR data deletion request enforced by Valves legal team.

The rest of it is just boring lawcel stuff, it's all very smug :marseyclappingglasses:

Reddit seethe

/u/SUNSfan even comments a wall of anger

It's nice to read this message after you have now:

1) Reported us for GDPR violations because you couldn't behave like a normal human being, while knowing fully that no other custom game follows these rules

2) Reported my Twitch stream for defamation (which I just got an email confirming your reports were denied)

3) Reported my wife and my personal websites for GDPR violations despite us obviously not holding any user information since they are just personal

You've scared my wife enough that you have triggered her PTSD that we literally went to the Police Station today to make sure they have a flag on our house just in case.

The reason I didn't name you is because I'm not a terrible person. Despite you being a complete peepee, I don't believe in doxxing people. You did what you did in a public groomercord (aka many witnesses to this and our groomercord bots keep logs of everything), so there's not much I can do to prevent people from figuring out who you are. And by the way, I hadn't looked you up until the other day and this behavior of yours seems to be a long and disturbing pattern.

I also should note that the GDPR issues are not the reason the arcade is shutting down (as I said in my video). After I talked with the Valve lawyer, they said as long as we can follow the GDPR guidelines it would be no issue. The real issue was that these lawyers then realized people were monetizing the arcade.

As for why I uploaded to the Artifact Cinema channel (i can't believe I have to justify even this lol), I stated live on stream that I would be uploading there b/c it is only fitting to upload this video about a dying game to another channel about a dying game. I don't really post videos on DotaCinema and haven't for a few years now.

All in all, you have won. I'm not sure what you are trying to accomplish now. Enjoy your life and leave us alone please.

edit:We use Paypal & Stripe, neither of which gives us access to people's credit cards. Just wanted to clear that up as that would be ridiculous.

edit 2: After the GDPR complaint thru, we complied with the ruling and got rid of all your information. We were in the process of giving this option to all other users but then the monetization conversation took over

My wife's PTSD :marseyxd:

It's funny how even reading this from your side it's really obvious you threw a tantrum about a groomercord server.

Way I see it, OP of this thread is definitely a butthurt weirdo.

But the big story is that you can't run a business like SUNSFan did. It's super bizzare that these custom games are running a business with EU customers and don't know what GDPR is.

Me either :marseyderpthumbsup:

found the error after some time, and re-uploaded a correct version.

I proceeded to say that if she is so busy, why she would even take the role as a volunteer to vouch/verify players

At this point stuff went south and I said a few things about her relevancy in the scene which have been certainly below the waist line but not too bad overall because it was technically true.

So basically this all roots back to you being petty because you were a jerk after you fricked something up? Huh.

Man, when you're giving your side of the story and still come of like a jerk, that's a bad sign. Cant imagine how bad you behavior really is. Imagine using a "it's technically true" reason to justify your temper tantrum personal attacks.

Considering how easy it is to know who you are regardless of your throw away (which was obviously not about safety) i hope you enjoy knowing hundreds or thousands of people will now know what a petty unhinged loser you are.

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Yeah sure dude... Maybe you can fool some people here, but you won't fool anyone who saw how you acted on ability arena groomercord channel that day.

I don't think writing a GDPR itself is a bad thing. As many others said in the other thread, and as Sunsfan/Jenkins said, it was bound to happen sooner or later anyway, you only accelerated the process which is not a bad thing really. What Sunsfan and other people who like AA wanted was for Valve to legitimize things by using the existing passes, no one liked the sketchy payment process and p2w in arcades anyway. And if Valve doesn't intend to do something about it, then sooner it is known the better, less time wasted on developing an arcade game that'll eventually be forced to close.

While I wouldn't mind the GDPR complaint by itself, how you acted that day was not even remotely acceptable, and here you are lying and playing the victim once again.

- Anyone who modded in a big groomercord server probably knows how annoying the constant pings can get, and that mods do warn people that ping unnecessarily. I'm a mod in another server too so I can sympathize. Yes, you pinged Sajedene, and she said, in a polite manner, to not ping and read the instructions instead. Which does have the solution to your problem, since all you had to was to take a fricking screenshot.

- You lost your marbles as soon as she said that, you were definitely not acting like a rational human being like you're pretending to be right now. If any of the mods that are actually responsible for dealing with users was online you'd be insta permabanned the minute you started talking anyway. You did throw insults and threats at her, insulted all the other people trying to calm you down, belittled her for being a woman and went on a rant about how this was happening because it was a woman doing that job... I could go on. Then you calmed down, knowing your guilt deleted only your aggressive comments trying to hide your buttholery, threatened with GDPR and left.

As I said in my previous posts, I'm not mad at you making a GDPR complaint, I'm mad at Valve for not showing a small effort to save arcade games like AA and granting your wish. Sunsfan and Jenkins said the GDPR itself wasn't the problem in their video anyway. But you have a fricking problem in your head and you'd be hated just as much even if you didn't make a GDPR complaint.

I'm totally not seething right now. Being a nanny is seriously stressful stuff, broski

Yeah sure dude... Maybe you can fool some people here, but you won't fool anyone who saw how you acted on ability arena groomercord channel that day.

He is not fooling me, found a lot about this very unstable dude in less than 10 min of search. He has a history of abuse and for some one who is so worried about his personal data being stored online, he is very sloppy. There are footprints of him everywhere if you know how to look for it.

"who sows the wind will reap storm and the storm is coming"

Flirting with stochastic terrorism, buddy

The way buttholes justify themselves in their own mind never ceases to amaze me. Good effort into spinning this into legality issues, but we all know you did it out of spite and bruised ego.

Yeah I've never gotten so pissed reading a sentence. What a fricking butthole!

OP is a God, I love him

Shortly after making this post, OP is identified by evil redditors

Since nobody else will, guess I'll take the ban for it. Hid the names as best as I could but I think we can just expose OP already yeah?

OP in question is some low time German streamer with a whooping 209 followers on twitter.

This all started when OP is too incompetent to follow simple instructions to request the immortal rank on the groomercord channel.

As seen in this picture OP posted his profile twice before editing and correcting his first attempt.

The first time he posted and requested the rank was at 6:57 PM, at 8:04 PM he pings Sajedene while complaining about not having automated rank integration within groomercord (funny enough, this would require them to have access to your steam data, and have it linked to your groomercord account, ironic you complain about GPDR isn't it?), She told him to go and read the instructions.

Between 6:57 PM and 8:04 PM OP was spewing a bunch of sexist garbage, in his now deleted messages as you can see a random user replying to a handful of "original message was deleted" before Sajedene just left him.

But do not fear, OP wasn't done yet, man continued to cry and be a sexist piece of garbage, the 2 braincells he had jumped into action as he continued to delete messages shortly after saying them. during all this, man was actually livestreaming.

And some more non deleted message

shorty after that Sunsfan banned him.

So, long story short: OP is a late 20's man-child that threw a sexist tantrum because he can not follow simple instructions as a "software engineer".

For the mods, all this information is publicly available in the AA groomercord, I erased OP name because he want to stay anonymous, and is a self-proclaimed "specialist" on privacy and personal information yet fails to remove his traces of being a pile of human garbage. please go kind on me?, don't perm me :( the community deserves to know the truth to bs claim like OP.

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>German has neurodivergent meltdown because the request he made wasn't immediately granted within an hour

Krauts are genuinely the worst out of all the Europeans

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God and i hate the Germans so goddarn much. I had work offer from Germany but it was shit since i have to interact with these subhumans

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I know a guy who used to travel from Italy to Germany for work in the nineties and the Germans would scream at him in rage with anti Italian hatred when he'd cross the empty streets without waiting for a green light

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Sounds about right.

Japs are also neurotic about waiting for the walk signal.

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I like working with Germans. They're so neurodivergent and just do their work and rarely bother me.

Spill the beans on the work offer. I want to see if its even mildly competitive to entry level corpo burger jobs if you remember it

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Site manager. 4.5k euromoney. 80 bucks a day allowance. Was it every 2-3 month paid travel home for 2 weeks.

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Seems a little low even for Yuropoor standards.

Good on you for turning it down. Know your worth King.

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Higher taxes does that shit. With 4.5k euromoney and the benefits has me at like 30-40% income tax. If i paid like 10-20% then it would be like 6k euromoney

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lol i know OP used a throwaway on reddit but the groomcord people might be able to identify him??

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Just added it to the OP, :marseyitsover: for him

Since nobody else will, guess I'll take the ban for it. Hid the names as best as I could but I think we can just expose OP already yeah?

OP in question is some low time German streamer with a whooping 209 followers on twitter.

This all started when OP is too incompetent to follow simple instructions to request the immortal rank on the groomercord channel.

As seen in this picture OP posted his profile twice before editing and correcting his first attempt.

The first time he posted and requested the rank was at 6:57 PM, at 8:04 PM he pings Sajedene while complaining about not having automated rank integration within groomercord (funny enough, this would require them to have access to your steam data, and have it linked to your groomercord account, ironic you complain about GPDR isn't it?), She told him to go and read the instructions.

Between 6:57 PM and 8:04 PM OP was spewing a bunch of sexist garbage, in his now deleted messages as you can see a random user replying to a handful of "original message was deleted" before Sajedene just left him.

But do not fear, OP wasn't done yet, man continued to cry and be a sexist piece of garbage, the 2 braincells he had jumped into action as he continued to delete messages shortly after saying them. during all this, man was actually livestreaming.

And some more non deleted message

shorty after that Sunsfan banned him.

So, long story short: OP is a late 20's man-child that threw a sexist tantrum because he can not follow simple instructions as a "software engineer".

For the mods, all this information is publicly available in the AA groomercord, I erased OP name because he want to stay anonymous, and is a self-proclaimed "specialist" on privacy and personal information yet fails to remove his traces of being a pile of human garbage. please go kind on me?, don't perm me :( the community deserves to know the truth to bs claim like OP.

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lol what a stupid frick :marseylaugh: i only skimmed the post but when he said that he used a reddit throwaway it was quite obvious that he used his main for groomercord :marseyretard3:

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I've known more coherent downies.

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so whats his twitch handle?

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This guy is GIGABASED for making both Sunsfan and dota 2 redditors, who are nearly without exception MASSIVE STRAGS, seethe.

WC3 custom games weren't monetized, lonely neurodivergents created DOTA ALL STARS out of the love of the game and getting zero bitches, we should maintain that tradition

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I stand with the unhinged Lawcel, he dunked on Sajdene or whatever her name is.

also :marseydawnbreaker#:

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Yes they clearly broke the law, which is unethical as well as unlegal. Also he pissed off a ton of redditors which is completely ethical and tried to get some vidja shit shut down, a noble cause

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We weren't aware what GDPR guidelines even were at the time but once we were contacted about the user in question we followed them.

Then you fully knew that you are not following/breaking GDPR in Europe? Whatabousim shouldn't work here since not all other custom games have whole studios set up and are basically thousand dollars businesses.

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we didn't know the rules

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Yeah its europoor law but thats no excuse

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thank you, I always forget one of them

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:marseylegioncommander: how about this cool one

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i need a sopping wet doe c*nt marsey

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:marseyshy2: sproink?

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:#marseyturnedon:

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That one comes up when you search for dota :marseyderpthumbsup:

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She's a literally s*x machine.

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OP is based :marseyking: here, people who whine :marseycomplain: about getting pinged on groomercord absolutely deserve to get their income streams destroyed and reported to several government agencies :marseyglow:

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I'm Team lawcel. After all the hoops I had to jump to break up with my gym and the only thing that worked in the end was threatening them (they called my bluff at first but I followed through and prevailed). Also, frick groomercord.

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Someone told me to tell them you're going to jail as the reason you're cancelling a subscription. Idk if it works, but I'm going to try a similar thing with my car wash to bully the 16yo assistant manager into cancelling my subscription. :marseyknifecat:

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abuses GDPR because his own stupidity prevents him from following simple instructions

the tism is real, most sane lawcel

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even snappy knows im a dota neurodivergent

!g*mers

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But the big story is that you can't run a business like SUNSFan did. It's super bizzare that these custom games are running a business with EU customers and don't know what GDPR is.

The most important thing America did for the economy was carve out an exception in every regulation for small business. Crazy that Europe apparently doesn't do this

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Small businesscels deserve the rope

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European governments hate small business

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This is funny as heck. Dude sounds like he's going to start the fourth reich.

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He sounds like a fricking neurodivergent

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:marseyconfused:

What's the GPDR violation? If someone runs a groomercord for a video game and has their own special club, then.... so what? He didn't request that his screenshot of his desktop or whatever be deleted by them, so I don't get it. (Presumably, both parties are in the EU, right? If one's in the US, then they should simply ignore him).

How is getting down-ranked to Herald or whatever a privacy violation???

I'm not seeing how this Germoid is an attorney.

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GDPR is so intense if there is any information that can be linked to your person, even your video game stats, then it most likely falls under regulation

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Wouldn't be shocked that social media companies flee Europe in like a decade once SEA, Latin America and Africa start modernizing more.

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Gdpr is prefty r-slurred

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They have a website that pulls data from Steam (Dota2). Things included are playerId and other data about the played games. The playedId is personal identifiable information. Said website doesn't have a privacy policy, which is a GDPR violation.

They need to write what data they collect & process ("Hey we collect your playerId and use it to for our cool features!") and they need to offer a person the ability to delete his data ("Hey, if you want to delete your account & data, please mail us under X").

The end.

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Thanks. Sounds unnecessarily r-slurred.

:marseythumbsup:

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all Dota 2 arcade games

as in arcade machines or minigames?

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They're essentially Dota 2 custom maps

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we never had this problem with wc3 custom maps because wc3 custom maps didnt have women and grifters

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Dota 2 arcade died due to a woman's failure to handle kraut autism

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I'm surprised the girl he's with isn't fat?

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she's asian, r-slurred (like actually sub 80 iq), and failed e-whore, she and sunsfan deserve each other

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failed e-whore

:marseygossip: do tell?

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pretty much just that, she tried to be an e girl, insert herself into the dota pro scene, wasnt attracted enough, and then glommed on to a reddit incarnate barely relevant grifter/caster as a last resort.

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All the ewhores for dota are Asians. It's kinda weird.

She's more attractive than Kelly Milkies though

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:#gigachad2:

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is this what sunsfan warned us about?

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:#marseydeterminedgun:

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What a bastard lmao

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