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Kind of related - my local target recently started locking things up and carrying fewer items due to shoplifting which is almost exclusively a π thing around here. You can't openly discuss this no no topic. It can only be done in anon situations or behind closed doors with trusted people and euphanisms.
I'm not even sure πs have self awareness regarding this situation (or literally any other actual issue in the black community). This has always been truly bizarre to me. Even when I was really young. Something has always seemed a little off.
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That's because in my limited experience of the world the concept of separating a problem from your culture is a very western concept. For every other group any attack on any problem within the community is valued the same as an attack on the community itself. The pro of this is that it unites the group the con is that if a group develops a habit that's literally killing them they are at high risk of ignoring it till the moment they die then blame it all on fate/racism/evil take your pick.
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Itβs not a western thing. Itβs because when someone attacks your group 1) it feels bad so youβre naturally defensive 2) Theyβre often not offering constructive criticism or have your best interests at heart. I doubt theyβre totally oblivious to the situation unless theyβre r-slurred
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Most of the black community is entirely oblivious to the ways this kind of petty crime holds them back long-term
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Decades of having children with unknown cousins, step-brothers and step-sisters has done significant damage to their gene pool.
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decades wow thatβs almost a whole generation
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mayos are oblivious as to how their degeneracy and cute twinkry holds them back long term
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The fact that black communities have the overwhelmingly highest approval ratings for police presence says otherwise.
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This makes a lot of sense. I hadn't ever thought of it from that western perspective angle.
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It's alright I am a third world sexy Indian dude so I get the my people angle, then I use the internet so the western angle is forced onto me. So I get both sides. It can be harder for you when your entire media only caters to your own country or other rich neighbors. That's the con of being no.1, you forget anyone else exists and then one day you are surprised that someone suddenly bussy blasts you.
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Glorious Arjuns and Tejas will destroy Paxtan, saar.
3000 blue fighter jets of Vishnu
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itβs wrong. totally wrong. the mafia or many a European in 1700 would also act that way.
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It's not a 'western' thing. Yts were lynching BIPOCs for even looking at white women as late as the 40s. Eventually the
got to the whites, yada yada yada, white guilt became a thing, and now half of them are openly hostile to their own race.
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And rightfully so, the mayos must go
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nope
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They shoplift a lot, but it is overstated. Black people have inadvertently become a red herring for the most ravenous shoplifters to ever exist: White Women
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That's why my foid is a ricecel. Rightoid with asian wife? Quite literally the ultimate "many such cases"
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tfw no gf that is more racist than me
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tfw gf that is more racist than me
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I dated a ricecel foid in high school that just posted BBC threads on /pol/ and LARPed as Stormfront.
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Unironically the best way to get a racist gf is to date a girl who isn't white.
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Lmao fricking what? I thought it was moid ricecels spamming those as revenge for wmaf spam
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who can fathom the inscrutable minds of ricecels?
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zoz
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She single?
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Last I heard she got a pibbles.
You can't possibly compete![:marseysadge: :marseysadge:](/e/marseysadge.webp)
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My wife HATES Indians
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White women per capita, black people by volume and value. Black people know their shit, stuff 12 pairs of pants and a bunch of sephora in their pants ans walk out knowing nobody will do shit and the cops wont be there for 30 minutes.
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Mayofoids steal individual items nigs walk in with like garbage bags fill them up and walk out.
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Fill them up then fence them in bulk to someone who makes a business of reselling consumer stuff on the cheap.
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What's there to be self-aware of? It's only hurting some corporation, and even then - barely. Who fricking cares, other than shareholders (overwhelmingly mayo boomers) of said corporation? Why would πs give a shit?
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???
https://sfgate.com/bayarea/article/Walgreens-closing-5-Sf-stores-crime-shoplifting-16527801.php
Why r commies so rarted?
Say BIPOC right now or you're a b-word butt agendaposter.
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That's what I thought.
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What have you thought?
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You a b-word
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That's inaccurate. You asked me to say π, I said π. Therefore I'm not a b-word. QED.
Also, you kind of remind me of someone. Planning a giant spergout again?
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Slur filter: on
BIPOCs: defended
Comments: yalled
Yep, it's drama mod time
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Then the store shuts down because it was owned by franchisees, not the actual corporate brand itself. And after that people complain about there not being enough businesses in predominantly black neighborhoods. Hmmm, really makes you think
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Dude food deserts lmao.
But shouldnt negros be familiar with living in deserts, anyways?
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Corporations tend to take it out on store employees who are working class. As you are a Marxist, that makes them more deserving of your empathy than the thieving class.
And yes I know the greater issues of how corpos behave, but for simplicity sake I am referring to the surface level repercussions of shoplifting.
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Don't bother words words wordsing just call him an r-slur
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It's 2 paragraphs you ADHDegenerated r-slur
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OK, let's agree with your POV here. But it doesn't explain similar intra-community responses (or lack thereof) to things like single parent homes, STDs, education, violent crime, financial literacy, actual literacy, homelessness, mental health....I could probably list 40-50 more things fairly easily.
I do like my sexy Indian dude friends theory. It is pretty logical.
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He's also just wrong, literally parroting the mainline reddit view on nigs stealing lol
https://sfgate.com/bayarea/article/Walgreens-closing-5-Sf-stores-crime-shoplifting-16527801.php
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Poverty is a response to pretty much all of these. Inter-generational, culturally-engrained poverty especially. It's not specific to burger πs either, the historically impoverished communities share the same exact problems worldwide. Propensity towards all these things is so obviously and directly related to parents' income, that any other explanation is secondary at best.
The only solution is socialism!
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I really wish I could agree with you regarding root cause, my friend. I hate the way I feel about this, but much like certain religious tenants I simply don't possess the ability to suspend or conveniently parse my deductive reasoning here.
But if I truly thought this is what it would take....
Life is messy despite what reddit says
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Of course life is messy. But in this case you can clearly see that by far the strongest correlation between the rates of all the things you mentioned is social class, or, more obviously - income. If social class has a historical ethnic component to it - then it becomes tied to an ethnicity, too, though it is nowhere near permanent and can easily be reversed.
Let me give you an example - there was an institutional, legalised discrimination against Jews in the Russian Empire. As a result of it (at least partially) - they were the majority of the underclass on the western fringes (the only places they were allowed to live) and were criminal as shit, to the point that to this day a lot of criminal jargon in Russian has Jewish roots. And that's Jews, a group that always had a massive, extremely rich merchant class and propensity towards helping each other on ethnoreligious basis. With less organised groups, it's nowhere near as easy or as quick to escape intergenerational poverty.
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You have cause and effect backward r-slur
They don't steal shit cause they're poor, they're poor cause they steal shit
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Does it even matter which comes first? Cycle of poverty and all
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Poor is a pattern of behavior.
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Interesting example. I'm vaguely aware but am going to read more about this.
Here's the thing - I just see black communities around the world and there's an unbroken theme across time and space. In Africa the issues are either ignored for political reasons by the west or blamed on colonialism. Apologists say the issues are complex, but in the next breath provide simple root causes.
I appreciate your really solid example. It is quite lock solid on the surface. Oy vey! π
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yeah but the crime Jews and the academic Jews and the finance Jews and the art jews and the rabbi Jews or the math Jews or the business Jews or coder Jews or blogger Jews or Hollywood Jews or Nobel prize Jews are all smart as strag
Where are the art Blacks or math blacks or ceo blacks or crime blacks?
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the culture may be the result of intergenerational poverty. but the culture IS why they can't get out of poverty like other ethnic groups get out of poverty.
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is it? Whatβs a culture? Why havenβt some of them deculturated and then become epic like Asians
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many have. averages don't represent the group.
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have they? where are the black tech founders? Physicists? And there are (a tiny number of) Nigerians in those but they donβt count lmao
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I thought you told me you weren't a Marxist...
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I got banned for this comment chain by some seething bagholder, so I'll only answer this one here, the rest of you πs have lost the right to my attention![:marseysmug: :marseysmug:](/e/marseysmug.webp)
What?!? I would never say that. I've been a Marxist consistently for almost the entirety of my adult life.
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It looks like you fricking tards wipe #friendly on a daily basis so I can't pull it up, but I distinctly remember you saying that you aren't a Marxist but you've studied Marxism. Or something along those lines.
Also:
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That was like two days ago, and it was
@Dad, you r-slur. I am a bona-fide Marxist-Leninist, as you can tell by my pfp, profile, flair, and post history (here and on reddit).
Idk, it made someone really mad, so I'm guessing they have some personal stake in it? I doubt anyone is really that concerned about the dividends of anonymous multi-millionaire boomers if they have nothing to gain from it...
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You and I were having the conversation. Did he interject with that comment? I guess the purple jannie names blended together for me.
That's what I had thought so when I read that, I took it as you having a passion for the subject but larping as a True Believer.
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But are they dumb because they're poor or poor because they're dumb?
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That is the most important issue of them all. Everything else is just smokescreen.
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I am rich and smart and privileged and good upbringing and I am an r-slurant who wants to r*pe and destroy and slaughter. so no it isnβt not le socioeconomic
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What is that personal anecdote supposed to prove? Do you need me to show you one example of a π making it for the whole statistical evidence in the other direction to disappear?
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They're aware of it. They just don't want to talk about it with you because you're an outsider and that would be similar to snitching. It's a combination of strict in-group dynamics and a "frick the system" mentality.
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