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The fact you can't understand the difference between re-infection and spreading is hilarious.

I can. Which is why I gave different sources to show vaccinated people both get infected and spread it at significant rates.

Vaccinated people are sick for shorter periods of time, thus less likely to spread the virus.

Viral loads in the first week appear to be the same between vaccinated and unvaccinated (figure 1). So viral loads are the same during the period where most spread occurs, and reaches the same peak.

This is exactly what I mean, you people are genuinely so poorly educated/r-slurred it's like teaching particle physics to a sewer rat.

Of all the bullshit you've posted, you provided two sources - neither of which say what you claimed. Your hot takes are normally r-slurred but now you're just lying.

I also especially like the fact you think this was a "goalpost shift" when in reality most covid cases are in fact asymptomatic, meaning a reduction of spread from those cases is actually a massive benefit.

You said "The vaccination ABSOLUTELY reduces the spread of covid, the contact tracing research says as much.". Then linked one source that talks only about asymptomatic spread, and another that literally doesn't mention vaccination once.

And we already knew that most cases are asymptomatic and that asymptomatic spread is rare. That was already true before the vaccines. So there's no evidence that the vaccine meaningfully reduces spread in symptomatic people, and no evidence that it reduces spread in asymptomatic people. There's also only limited evidence that it makes vaccinated people more likely to be asymptomatic.

And ultimately none of that even fricking matters because we are already seeing places with very high vaccination rates set new records for case numbers. So whatever any of these studies even says, we already know that spread among vaccinated people is significant.

There's also a very good chance that you, like most people, are significantly overestimating the typical severity of COVID.

No child left behind ruined this country.

I'm not even American you cute twink. Besides, you're the one that can't get your story straight. Go get your fourth fauci ouchie already :marseyagree:.

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My god man, the outright pathological lying you morons engage in is wild.

The entire point of the second link was to show fairly small portions of the population cause over 60% of the spread, kids in specifically because at the time kids could not be vaccinated.

The fact you can't connect these dots is expected given your clear mental disability.

I can. Which is why I gave different sources to show vaccinated people both get infected and spread it at significant rates.

Vaccination reduces the spread of covid:

https://nationalgeographic.com/science/article/yes-vaccines-block-most-transmission-of-covid-19

https://nature.com/articles/d41586-021-02054-z

https://aamc.org/news-insights/6-myths-about-covid-19-vaccines-debunked

Literally all medical consensus that currently exists say vaccination reduces the spread of covid, your outright rejection of reality is denied.

You also don't know what you're talking about in relation to bringing up Israel, we can go into that if you'd like and further expose you for what you are: a deluded low IQ rightoid reality denier.

Vaccines are less effective against delta of course, but they still reduce the spread by some percentage for the exact reasons I cited:

https://nature.com/articles/d41586-021-02689-y

Previous studies have found that people infected with Delta have roughly the same levels of viral genetic materials in their noses regardless of whether they’d previously been vaccinated, suggesting that vaccinated and unvaccinated people might be equally infectious2. But studies also suggest that vaccinated people are less likely to spread the virus if they subsequently catch Delta: their levels of nasal virus drop faster than do those of unvaccinated infected people, and their nasal swabs contain smaller amounts of infectious virus3,4.

All of this points to one conclusion: the vaccinated are less infectious than the unvaccinated according to the bulk of currently available evidence, meaning I am right and you are wrong.

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