Unable to load image

:!platyaboriginal:Voiceposting:platyaboriginal:- introducing the Yessister-in-chief- u/leacorv! [EDIT: EVIDENCE OF BURGER FOREIGN INTERFERENCE WITHIN]

https://old.reddit.com/user/leacorv

If you clicked on any Reddit link in any voicepost, you have likely read (and no doubt agreed with) the comments of one /u/leacorv. A 4 year old account, xe posts and comments about the Voice so much it makes me look normal. Any Voice thread on any Aussie subreddit, xe will be there.

Some fun facts about /u/leacorv-

  • Has a "Liberal Party of Australia" (the chud party) flair on /r/australianpolitics, despite the fact xe hasn't once defended that party (and was openly a Greens supporter before xe adopted that flair). The reason xe has that flair can only be guessed at.

  • the last time xe made a post that wasn't about the Voice was two months ago.

Anyway, there really isn't a better way to explain this Yessister's beliefs than to let xe do it ximself. Here are some comments picked pretty much at random-

"Jacinta says to vote No" isn't listening. Not having a Voice reduces listening. Seems like you missed that part.

Yes people who say it came from Indigenous people (true) are doubly listening. They're listening to Indigenous people. And having a Voice further increases listening.

:#blackwomanspeaking:

That if we don't vote Yes, the rest of the world will think we are racists. It's an old tactic, a shaming tactic, a false fact.

Yes that article is trying to shame you. But it's a true fact.

Yes doesn't use negative emotions, but if it does that's a good thing.

(someone else) The Yes campaign could easily have overcome the No camp, by providing logically sound, reasonable, evidence-based arguments supporting it's case. If the Yes camp had a solid case, then they might have succeeded.

Instead, the Yes camp resorts to mud-slinging and accusing the No camp of "squalid tactics". You only do that if your "argument" is specious and you know it.

It matters not what the No camp has or has not said or done. The Yes camp failed to make a solid, convincing case. Period.

:marseylolcow: Lol nice projection.

The case is simple. Indigenous people asked for it in the Uluru Statement, and zero risk since Parliament controls its powers.

What are the valid No arguments, other than screaming that the Voice is racist and falsely accusing Yes people of calling them racist while providing no proof for the false accusations.

The simple reason we are voting no as a country is because Australians do not want to enshrine a special constitutional privilege that only one specific group gets access to.

:marseylolcow: Lol thanks for proving my point.

Keep screaming that it's racist. Was the extermination of Indigenous people during colonization racist too? Or would the British have killed the original inhabitants regardless of race so it's not racist?

Yes the British's treatment at the time of colonisation was racist.

:marseylolcow: Great! So because the injustice is racist, we can't redress in injustice because that would be racist.

Don't they understand, after we've taken their lands, we're all equal now!

But I thought the voice wasn't about land :)

:marseylolcow: Stop changing the subject. It's an advisory body. It can advise on land.

So the government can kill and steal based on race, but now when they ask for redress, nope, can't do that, it racist because we're equal now.

Aka how to entrench injustice and inequality.

Land grabs aren't real but if they are that's a good thing

Finally, to keep burgers' attention-

Warren Mundine is the CPAC Chairman. He literally hosted a racist American far-right conference a month ago.

He also falsely accused the PM of calling No people racists.

No one is more divisive than him.

Not gonna ping this time, this is just a lil post to pass the time till the shops open of a morning

37
Jump in the discussion.

No email address required.

Why are you so scared of the Voice advising on defense (which it will not do, zero chance, since it will murder its own credibility), but I want to assume for fun that the Voice WILL advise on defense and submarines and parking tickets and the availability of gender neutral bathrooms at the DFAT building and the decor of the PM's office, etc etc, so what? Why are you such a kitty about it?

>Extremely inflamatory

>Posts constantly on one topic only

>Spells "defence" with a "s"

:#marseygigathonk:

Jump in the discussion.

No email address required.

Burgergate 2k23

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-09-17/yes-vote-voice-referendum-marches-australia/102862580

I kinda wanna bait xim into saying color and normalize now

Jump in the discussion.

No email address required.

Jump in the discussion.

No email address required.

Oh I see, they must be one of those Americans that think black=African American in every country.

I swear it's the most hilariously racist thing to generalise the plight of various indigenous cultures through an American lens just because those cultures are non-white.

Jump in the discussion.

No email address required.

:#marseymuttgenocide:

Jump in the discussion.

No email address required.

https://i.rdrama.net/images/16949100306084144.webp

:@xpat: :marseykneel:

Jump in the discussion.

No email address required.

tbf whether I spell things with an s or a z depends on whether the spellcheck corrects me :marseyretard2:

Jump in the discussion.

No email address required.

it's the lack of "u" in "colour" that's more darning lol

Jump in the discussion.

No email address required.

Australian issue -> American protests.

This could be the first example of reverse cultural imperialism back to the US since Steve Irwin.

Jump in the discussion.

No email address required.

The burgergate posters have been vindicated. Everything i dont like is, in fact, americas fault

Jump in the discussion.

No email address required.

>the people who are where they are today because they couldn't defend from an invasion, should have a say on how to defend the country from an invasion

:#marseythinkorino:

Jump in the discussion.

No email address required.

oh wow a glowie from the yes camp

Jump in the discussion.

No email address required.

Not true, xe's just organically advocating violent land grabs!

Not really. If someone steals your land, then you cannot pass it onto your children, and so the children also have their land stolen too.

You're the one making the claim that we're all equal. Are you saying it's impossible to make that equality reality now because the people who stole the land are all dead? Or what are you going to do to make the equality a reality? When you argue equality, you need to back it up. You gonna have to volunteer to have your land stolen by an external force equally like they did!

Jump in the discussion.

No email address required.

Blut und boden is ok for browns now

Jump in the discussion.

No email address required.

Half the population Aus subs are β€œculturally aware” burgers and leafs

Jump in the discussion.

No email address required.

Hey yessisters,

Ain't you cope-and-seething on the radio,

Stereo,

The way you sneed ain't fair you know :marseysing:

Hey yessisters,

I don't want to miss a single thing you whine aboouuuut

Tonight :marseyjam:

Jump in the discussion.

No email address required.

It's not racist because abos are a multiracial group

:surejan:

We have to have a racist solution now because racism caused the problem in the first place

Great counterargument for people saying the Voice is racist.

Listening is good. The more you listen the gooder it is.

On the local level, addressing specific issues, I could buy this argument. But any federal body whose only function is to talk to the federal parliament and government, by definition does not operate at the local level. So it's just going to be more of the time-wasting "listening" that we already get with NAIDOC week, land acknowledgements, National Sorry day, etc.

I swear yessisters are just throwing shit at the wall hoping some of it will stick. And yet they accuse us proud and noble nobros of "flooding the zone".

Jump in the discussion.

No email address required.

There has actually been a push to move toward local levels away from Federal because of the failure of Federal Indigenous bodies. Additionally the needs of local communities differ wildly.

Yes avoids this because they're trying a Federal body but it's different because now you can't get rid of it.

An interesting tactic for sure.

Jump in the discussion.

No email address required.

I unironically support having more local-level support for :platyaboriginal: (and poor people in general, but the rural and poor are disproportionately abos). Probably would do them a lot more good than a Federal griftmaxxing group. Just don't expect it to actually bring them in line with the rest of the country because most fundamentally reject modernity. The successful ones are 1/4 black or less, which unironically makes an argument for the old "breeding out the colour" campaign of the early 20th century.

Jump in the discussion.

No email address required.

most fundamentally reject modernity.

Unfathomably based

Jump in the discussion.

No email address required.

Honestly. Generally my feelings too.

I think we need to focus on the abject poverty. Aboriginals are disproportionatly affected by poverty and will disproportionately benefit from addressing this.

Easier said than done however because as you've said, there tends to be a rejection of modernity - additionally besides the logistical nightmare of servicing remote communities, you have roadblocks put up EVERY STEP OF THE WAY by 'advocates' that make it impossible to actually meaningfully intervene in these communities in a way that can affect long term change (child removal from abuse, mandatory treatment for addiction etc).

I find it really difficult to find Indigenous causes or charities to donate to because of how opaque NGOs and other groups are regarding what their funds are ACTUALLY spent on in communities. I hazard a guess a lot of it goes toward paying their CEOs, throwing 'awareness events', and a small collection of 'Elders'. So basically, corruption.

And yes, it's sad but 100% the success of 1/4 or less Indigenous students really lends credence to the theory. However, you COULD say their ancestors were the ones that weren't left to languish - the stolen generation was based a lot on the 'fairest looking' Indigenous being removed. But it's not as simple as that because I think it's cultural as well. Indigenous students don't have the support environments to encourage perseverance as much as non-Indigenous. On average there isn't as much encouragement and value of education. And THAT can be seen as an effect of colonisation etc but even then I wouldn't blame it on that entirely.

Jump in the discussion.

No email address required.

At no point in your rambling, incoherent post were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone on this site is now dumber for having read it. May God have mercy on your soul.

Jump in the discussion.

No email address required.

literally the stupidpol thesis is that you should focus on needs, not race, and you'd naturally close the indigenous gap while keeping the culture-race fissure to a minimum.

The corollary is that the focus on race is defo some kind of massaging/psyop from on high. TPTB want people angry at each other.

___________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________

Fiscally Left :cheers: Socially Right

:unicorn: Nonfiction = Fiction :mummy: Fiction = Nonfiction :!unicorn:

Jump in the discussion.

No email address required.

Jump in the discussion.

No email address required.

Link copied to clipboard
Action successful!
Error, please refresh the page and try again.