If you clicked on any Reddit link in any voicepost, you have likely read (and no doubt agreed with) the comments of one /u/leacorv. A 4 year old account, xe posts and comments about the Voice so much it makes me look normal. Any Voice thread on any Aussie subreddit, xe will be there.
Some fun facts about /u/leacorv-
Has a "Liberal Party of Australia" (the chud party) flair on /r/australianpolitics, despite the fact xe hasn't once defended that party (and was openly a Greens supporter before xe adopted that flair). The reason xe has that flair can only be guessed at.
the last time xe made a post that wasn't about the Voice was two months ago.
Anyway, there really isn't a better way to explain this Yessister's beliefs than to let xe do it ximself. Here are some comments picked pretty much at random-
"Jacinta says to vote No" isn't listening. Not having a Voice reduces listening. Seems like you missed that part.
Yes people who say it came from Indigenous people (true) are doubly listening. They're listening to Indigenous people. And having a Voice further increases listening.
That if we don't vote Yes, the rest of the world will think we are racists. It's an old tactic, a shaming tactic, a false fact.
Yes that article is trying to shame you. But it's a true fact.
Yes doesn't use negative emotions, but if it does that's a good thing.
(someone else) The Yes campaign could easily have overcome the No camp, by providing logically sound, reasonable, evidence-based arguments supporting it's case. If the Yes camp had a solid case, then they might have succeeded.
Instead, the Yes camp resorts to mud-slinging and accusing the No camp of "squalid tactics". You only do that if your "argument" is specious and you know it.
It matters not what the No camp has or has not said or done. The Yes camp failed to make a solid, convincing case. Period.
Lol nice projection.
The case is simple. Indigenous people asked for it in the Uluru Statement, and zero risk since Parliament controls its powers.
What are the valid No arguments, other than screaming that the Voice is racist and falsely accusing Yes people of calling them racist while providing no proof for the false accusations.
The simple reason we are voting no as a country is because Australians do not want to enshrine a special constitutional privilege that only one specific group gets access to.
Lol thanks for proving my point.
Keep screaming that it's racist. Was the extermination of Indigenous people during colonization racist too? Or would the British have killed the original inhabitants regardless of race so it's not racist?
Yes the British's treatment at the time of colonisation was racist.
Great! So because the injustice is racist, we can't redress in injustice because that would be racist.
Don't they understand, after we've taken their lands, we're all equal now!
But I thought the voice wasn't about land :)
Stop changing the subject. It's an advisory body. It can advise on land.
So the government can kill and steal based on race, but now when they ask for redress, nope, can't do that, it racist because we're equal now.
Aka how to entrench injustice and inequality.
Land grabs aren't real but if they are that's a good thing
Finally, to keep burgers' attention-
Warren Mundine is the CPAC Chairman. He literally hosted a racist American far-right conference a month ago.
He also falsely accused the PM of calling No people racists.
No one is more divisive than him.
Not gonna ping this time, this is just a lil post to pass the time till the shops open of a morning
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Burgergate 2k23
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-09-17/yes-vote-voice-referendum-marches-australia/102862580
I kinda wanna bait xim into saying color and normalize now
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LMFAO GOTTEM !strayans
https://search.pullpush.io?kind=submission&author=leacorv&q=color&size=100
https://search.pullpush.io?kind=submission&author=leacorv&q=recognize&size=100
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It is so over for leacorvcels
but for mutts when
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Oh I see, they must be one of those Americans that think black=African American in every country.
I swear it's the most hilariously racist thing to generalise the plight of various indigenous cultures through an American lens just because those cultures are non-white.
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tbf whether I spell things with an s or a z depends on whether the spellcheck corrects me
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it's the lack of "u" in "colour" that's more darning lol
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Australian issue -> American protests.
This could be the first example of reverse cultural imperialism back to the US since Steve Irwin.
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I'm so happy in the CongoBignatiusMacintosh 1yr ago #5007055 spent 0 currency on pingsThe burgergate posters have been vindicated. Everything i dont like is, in fact, americas fault
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oh wow a glowie from the yes camp
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Not true, xe's just organically advocating violent land grabs!
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Blut und boden is ok for browns now
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Half the population Aus subs are βculturally awareβ burgers and leafs
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Hey yessisters,
Ain't you cope-and-seething on the radio,
Stereo,
The way you sneed ain't fair you know
Hey yessisters,
I don't want to miss a single thing you whine aboouuuut
Tonight
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Great counterargument for people saying the Voice is racist.
On the local level, addressing specific issues, I could buy this argument. But any federal body whose only function is to talk to the federal parliament and government, by definition does not operate at the local level. So it's just going to be more of the time-wasting "listening" that we already get with NAIDOC week, land acknowledgements, National Sorry day, etc.
I swear yessisters are just throwing shit at the wall hoping some of it will stick. And yet they accuse us proud and noble nobros of "flooding the zone".
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There has actually been a push to move toward local levels away from Federal because of the failure of Federal Indigenous bodies. Additionally the needs of local communities differ wildly.
Yes avoids this because they're trying a Federal body but it's different because now you can't get rid of it.
An interesting tactic for sure.
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I unironically support having more local-level support for (and poor people in general, but the rural and poor are disproportionately abos). Probably would do them a lot more good than a Federal griftmaxxing group. Just don't expect it to actually bring them in line with the rest of the country because most fundamentally reject modernity. The successful ones are 1/4 black or less, which unironically makes an argument for the old "breeding out the colour" campaign of the early 20th century.
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Unfathomably based
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Honestly. Generally my feelings too.
I think we need to focus on the abject poverty. Aboriginals are disproportionatly affected by poverty and will disproportionately benefit from addressing this.
Easier said than done however because as you've said, there tends to be a rejection of modernity - additionally besides the logistical nightmare of servicing remote communities, you have roadblocks put up EVERY STEP OF THE WAY by 'advocates' that make it impossible to actually meaningfully intervene in these communities in a way that can affect long term change (child removal from abuse, mandatory treatment for addiction etc).
I find it really difficult to find Indigenous causes or charities to donate to because of how opaque NGOs and other groups are regarding what their funds are ACTUALLY spent on in communities. I hazard a guess a lot of it goes toward paying their CEOs, throwing 'awareness events', and a small collection of 'Elders'. So basically, corruption.
And yes, it's sad but 100% the success of 1/4 or less Indigenous students really lends credence to the theory. However, you COULD say their ancestors were the ones that weren't left to languish - the stolen generation was based a lot on the 'fairest looking' Indigenous being removed. But it's not as simple as that because I think it's cultural as well. Indigenous students don't have the support environments to encourage perseverance as much as non-Indigenous. On average there isn't as much encouragement and value of education. And THAT can be seen as an effect of colonisation etc but even then I wouldn't blame it on that entirely.
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At no point in your rambling, incoherent post were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone on this site is now dumber for having read it. May God have mercy on your soul.
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literally the stupidpol thesis is that you should focus on needs, not race, and you'd naturally close the indigenous gap while keeping the culture-race fissure to a minimum.
The corollary is that the focus on race is defo some kind of massaging/psyop from on high. TPTB want people angry at each other.
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