Matt Gaetz Vote Ousts Kevin McCarthy as US Speaker of the House - Bloomberg
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-10-03/kevin-mccarthy-ousted-as-us-house-speaker-by-republican-dissidents
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I'm excited for the US government to get even more r-slurred in the coming days. I hope bowtie congressman refuses to allow for a vote for new Speaker and just runs shit till 2024.
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it means they cant do anything, even more so than last week when there was the monthly "shutdown"
this is the ideal outcome for US democracy
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It's not much different from business as usual really. The system is paralysed by mindless partisanship, opposing everything just to spite each other.
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Yeah but it's fricked in a new and exciting way! These are levels of dysfunction previously unachieved!
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This is very true, but on the other hand only one side is paralyzed by mindless contrarians in their own party who oppose everything out of spite.
When the chips are down,
shuts up and gets in line to vote (and gets reamed for it by lefty twatter rslurs) whereas Matt Gaetz basically is a rightoid twatter rslur.
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I respect Gaetz a lot more when you put it like that.
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Don't forget whats-her-face! The inbred Colorado foid with the guns and the movie theater handjob?
The sad thing is, if the posters on this board are any indication, I think the rightoids are sending their best....
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Boobert? Ya i cant say im complaining there
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That's the one! Isn't her dad some minor league wrestler who had an affair with her mom or something? The whole family is hilariously white trash.
She's a fantastic representative of the modern day GOP. I'd let her go down on me in the theater, Alanis style, but no way in heck would I vote for her.
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Im sure you might visit the polling booth on her behalf
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Same
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Paralysis is the intended behavior when two halves of the population disagree on any change.
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The system of American government has undergone an unplanned and unforeseen structural change that the Framers never anticipated.
Modern computer-assisted gerrymandering has become so pervasive that almost all elections for congress are effectively single-party appointments. The only voters that matter in a gerrymandered district are primary voters. Where parties used to punish fringe "spoiler" candidates who could not win in a general, those are now the only candidates who can win a sit, the far-out nutjobs who piss off everyone except for hardcore primary voters, especially in gerrymandered house seats. Reaching across the aisle to accomplish things is a sure ticket to losing in most districts, especially on the GOP side, as we see here.
This has created a dysfunctional congress that no longer legislates, but instead is basically a long-form reality show for the purposes of marketing reelection campaigns. In civics class, they used to teach that Congress writes the laws, POTUS oversees execution of the laws, and SCOTUS answers questions of legal interpretation.
We now have a government where Congress bickers and occasionally passing continuing resolutions, but almost never actually writes or modifies laws. Instead, the Executive branch makes the law through administrative rules, and SCOTUS rewrites anything they don't like. All of the hot-button SCOTUS cases from recent years have not been about SCOTUS interpreting legislations passed by congress, they have been SCOTUS overruling executive actions, or administrative rules, or SCOTUS versus SCOTUS cases, where they overturn prior court rulings.
This is not the system that was ever intended or designed in the constitution, it's an artifact of two-party, winner-take-all politics where representatives are able to choose their own voters with computer-assisted gerrymandering.
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They need a neutral open source anti-gerrymandering algo to do redistricting, but no politico will ever back such a thing, so it will never happen.
RIP Bugerstan, I figure they might make it to 2045 or so, as long as China doesn't nuke them before then
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Yeah, it's like DHS checkpoints at airports.
Nobody could ever successfully hijack a plane with boxcutters ever again after 9/11, but from now until forever, there will perpetually be thousands of above-median-productivity workers, at any given moment, standing in line waiting to take their shoes off, or separating their shampoo into 3oz bottles, etc. Just a permanent drag on the economy forever, a pointless foot on the brake, nevermind all the deadweight salary and benefits paid to TSA workers to feel up and steal from citizens.
There is like an eternal ratchet of American politics that always moves towards giving the state police more power, and always moves towards party over country.
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Not one single person is gonna read all that
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Back in boomer times it's not like everyone had principles, but there were issues that were bipartisan. Like not letting the Russians take over the world.
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not really, the house passes shit all the time its just not contentious so no one notices
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Sure, they pass a lot of shit, but it's mostly trivial and meaningless legislation. You might see bi-partisan support to rename a park, but nothing with actual impact is getting that kind of treatment.
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We had months of no government in Ireland after the last election and it was wonderful. Deep state ran the place with absolutely zero problems. Then as soon as the frickers finally got their shit together and formed a coalition the first thing I heard was a sugar tax. C*nts.
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This is why England's Lord Lieutenant of Ireland should make all the decisions. Sorry mickbros, we finally got our freedom but couldn't be responsible with it.
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That's right
We're going full-r-slur
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Trump for Speaker 2023
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neurodivergent sure, r-slurred? no.
member movie night
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Oh good, so now our government representatives can become even more hard-right or hard-left. Just what we needed.
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Interesting that the press are playing down that the other party also voted him out, despite him being more open than most to working with them.
I guess it's a vote for drama, rather than the Dems actually hoping for this to aid them.
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Never interrupt the enemy when he is making a mistake, also if he asks for you to help throw him off a cliff, you should do that.
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Because they didn't sabotage their own party.
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This was exactly the right play for the dems tbh
McCarthy's ouster is proof that Gaetz's club will brook no compromise at all, about anything. So the dems have absolutely nothing to gain by trying to keep McCarthy, who had to promise to be under Gaetz's thumb to keep his job, and who broke that promise. McCarthy was a dead man walking from the moment he partnered with democrats, it's not like he was going to switch sides to start partnering with dems more, after all this.
So what happens next is either the GOP votes lockstep to let Gaetz's club control the speaker, which is just a continuation of the status quo, or else a tiny handful of republicans in swing districts could take on immense power by voting with the democrats. The democrats have nothing to lose, by allowing the GOP to devour itself. If Gaetz controls who is speaker, then they will have no voice no matter who it is. But there is a chance of Gaetz losing control of the speakership, and even a very slim chance of the next speaker being someone who wins with a majority of their votes coming from the democrat side.
McCarthy needed 15 votes to get his seat, and caved to literally every single thing that Gaetz's club demanded, including this ridiculous rule that inevitably got him ousted. Now Gaetz needs to find an even jellier spine, somewhere in the GOP. His biggest risk is that 5 or 6 republicans in swing districts decide that voting for a moderate democrat speaker is less-dangerous than participating in an extended repeat of the loyalty-testing shitshow from last time.
Dems have nothing to lose, here. They don't have a great hand, and little chance of winning anything, but they were already all-in with 9-3 off-suit before this, so there is no reason to fold before the river, at this point.
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I like your writeup, but disagree on this being a good move for the Dems
Jefferies is as big a joke as McCarthy. I think this ends up back firing in their face but we will have to wait and see
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Wingcucks gonna cuck.
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This awesome
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He is still making herstory
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Dude has been an embaressment in CA forever and should have never got the job to begin with
Dude has always been a weak b-word
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Real /r/leopardsatemyface moment. Get fricked, GOPniks.
You will never be a real political party. You have no party platform, you have no governing majority, you have no executive office, you have no coherent ideology. You are an angry mob of r-slurs twisted by social media and opioids into a crude mockery of Jeffersonian democracy.
This is your fate. This is what you chose. There is no turning back.
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Sorry sweaty, you're not going to get anyone with half a brain to believe for one goddarn second that the GOP gives a single solitary shit about fiscal discipline. But keep on fricking that chicken.
If they cared about cutting government spending, they would have passed a budget with reduced spending, instead of just stamping their feet and trying to shut down the government over the debt ceiling over and over and over again.
Literally they are like my ex who would run up thousands of dollars on the credit card and then when the bill came, then suddenly "~wE NeEd tO SaVe mOnEy" and she didn't want to pay it off.
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No, you can't just make a deal to become speaker that promises you'll get rid of pork in bills, not use an omnibus or a CR, or kowtow to Dems for votes to do business as usual and then break the agreement, send billions more to Ukraine with no oversight, cave on a CR to give Dems all they want, fail to do anything with the border on HR 2, fail to do the regular order on budget bills, drag your feet on oversight, and expect to keep your job.
If Dems had balls instead of corporate taxolib homocrat overlords, they'd have done this to Pelosi eons ago.
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WTF I love McCarthy now.
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Ha! He was no one's first choice in the caucus, just the next man up in the hierarchy. I'm happy he's gone and welcome the accountability.
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And MAGA-hatters wonder why voters don't think they can govern
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Wow the North American House Speakers are on fire lately. First the Leaf one who had to resign with the Nazi shit and now this
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the wall just got 10 feet shorter
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Don't make deals with Democrats when you make a promise to not do so in order to get the job in the first place. Pretty simple. We're absolutely drowning in red ink right now, and passing the CR only extended the spending priorities of the Democrats from last Congress who lost the House.
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Clown show. Like....I should not be surprised but...yea
Jefferies thinks he is being smart by teaming with Gaetz to oust McCarthy. Let's see what happens
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