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Much of the only female-only factions in 40K, is the Sororitas, which are space-nun religious fanatics, whom operate as the military arm of the modern Religious apparatus of the Church of the Imperium of Man (the primary human faction in the dire 40K fictional universe), and are composed of ultra ethno-nationalist religious zealot space-nazis.
The Church of the Imperium of Man exists to promote and profiliate the worship of the God-Emperor of Mankind through any means or brutality necessary. (Yes all of this is directly plagiarized from Dune, don't worry)
At some point in the r-slurred and convoluted violence filled history of the Imperium of Man, many Priests and religious leaders co-opted the hyper propaganda and powerful mind-control apparatus of the Church of the Imperium of Man (referred to as just the Ecclesiarchy by in-universe characters) and started jet another Galaxy-raping and planets-burning civil war within the Imperium of Man, to wrestle propaganda control away from the God-emperor of Mankind (whom is basically a vegetable half-dead skeleton barely kept alive by ancient unknowable technology in a neverending vegetable-heck, by his own fanatical worshippers).
The worshippers of the God-Emperor would win this apocalyptic civil war (which is as redundant as the Imperium is constantly at war with itself), but made the critical in-universe lore change upon the Church of the Imperium of Man, in that no Priest or Deacon or whatever a planet calls their religious-overlord, may employ any armies personally, and that the military of the Imperium and the Ecclesiarchy were to be separated for all time to prevent the closest ever self-destructive civil war the Imperium of Man would fight against itself in its 10 000 years of self-imposed religious heck.
Fast forward many millennia, and the Imperium of Man is once again beset by strive and collapse and alien invaders, and our desperate buddies in the Church go full galaxy-brain mode, in their attempts to bypass the restrictions on the Church of the Imperium of Man, arming itself with armies which answered only to the Church itself - that answer was the Sororitas.
You see our Church buddies would go full Saul-lawyer mode and be like "the restriction on the Ecclesiarchy fielding private armies on this 3000 year old document specifically states we are prohibited from fielding armies of MEN - aka scrotes! Therefore we are totally going to make private loyal take-forces make up of foids!!!"
And thus we had the Adepta Sororitas
Now since its inception in the 1980s when GamesWorkshop basically plagiarized every single Sci-Fi media in existence, and yet somehow managed to cobble together a wholly unique setting in it's miss-mash of grim and dark edgelord lore, which was fricking edgy and cringe and edgy, that it somehow circled back into being supercool again, our Warhammer 40k setting is and always has been a primarily boy-targeted franchise
Any revisionist bullshit espoused by soydittors are to be ignored. All of the lore and toys and shitty nerd-figures and boardgames and novels released through the decades, from the initial primarily satire stuff about satirizing totalitarian regimes, to the eventually super serial Supersoldiers of the Imperium, through the decades all of the marketting had been aimed at boys
There was no malicious or sinister intent behind these marketting and toy (sorry I mean FIGURINES) creation was merely one by Bongoloid nerd men, making crap which they were personally interested in, and trying to determine what the international public at large were also interested in.
Even token attempts to market at girls would usually fail spectacularly, and thus the usual circle of one affecting the other was created the less chicks were interested the less GamesWorkshop (the dorks who own 40K) made any efforts to enfranchise them.
One of the more popular (with caveat) attempts to bring about a gril faction into the universe was the Adepta Sororitas, which while completely fricking failing to capture any female-attention into the hobby or universe of 40K, did though become popular with longtime fans, as the Warrior-Nuns did actually have interesting background lore and plausible reasons for existing as an all female force within the endless confines of the Imperiums endless shitshow of a bureaucracy
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The initial Sorroritas were relatively subdued in their 90s art,
or alternatively over oversteriotyped in the satirizing universe of 40K
but as they pretty much became more and more sexualized as it became clear that no fricking girls gave a shit, and the GamesWorkshop pivoted to fully aim to market the faction to adolescent boys
The famous boob-plates became the norm for official art and fanart, and that's how they had been seen for pretty much 2 decades. Only in the last 5 years, as wokescolds have become such a dominant ideological force, aimed at infiltrating all hobbies and media and recreational groups, had such a nono idea of foids existing just to please the scrote-gaze become a point of contestation on online spaces and forums and comment sections all over
Now I want to reiterate that I don't disagree that chuds and scrotes bitching that fantasy women not being sexy enough isn't cringe, or that the moronic idea that the Adepta Sorroritas in the most popular and official art, are NOT in fact in any way fricking practical, and their famous costumes pretty much exist in hyper stylized, if not sexualized to look attractive, instead of anything remotely practical - even compared to the stupidity of Space Marines, and their ever-famous oversized Pauldrons don't look as silly as Sorroritas in their most sexualized depictions on high-heels
(All hail Pauldronius!! Everyone knows the larger your Pauldrons are in 40K, the more important you are )
You always get these dipshits.
But on the opposite end of straggotry, is this newfound Leftoid Puritanism, which exceeds even that of hyper conservative Boomers, whom had tried to police all hobbies and media, during the pre-2000s era, when Christianity had a much larger sway in the west, before its staggering decline in places like Burgerland and Western Europe, the biggest consumers of 40K garbage.
Back then everything was anathema to goodness, Rock-music was Satan, horror-movies was Satan, Harry Potter books was pronounced as witchcraft by Karen Boomer busybodies, and their influence from Burgerland even extended all the way to Christian homes in fricking South Africa, for both blacks and whites. Video Games are famously the most despised medium by puritan Boomers, not even exclusively christians. And it is not missed by many gaymers, that the behaviour of modern feminist puritan busybodies have a very strange and bizarre overlap and similarity between the puritanism of Christian conservatives.
Now I want to again reiterate, that if you are the 1/ 1000 0000 chick who is actually genuinel interested in trying out 40k lore or games and shit, and you are dismayed that the only faction is just shitty eye-candy for teenage boys, that is entirely valid, your complaints of the over-sexualization is not amiss. But I believe there is a supreme difference between individual distaste towards sexist nonsense and hoping for a better less stupid representation within a hobby,
and this vile and ideologically motivated attempts by outsiders to deliberately change from the ground up, the consistency of lore and standards which had existed within hobbies and other shit prior. Now I usually take the piss when I refer to wokescolds trying to colonize places like /r/Gramdank, but i feel it appropriate after the constant bombardment by unambiguous ideologues mascarading as supposed fans, to change all aspects of a medium and its lore or whatever
https://old.reddit.com/r/Grimdank/comments/1baeeoc/warhammer_memes/ku2ld9j/?context=8
I am not the only one to take note of this constant puritan pestering.
"women have boobs"
Source?
It's always so the exact same people who complain about diversity and representation and
After a while it appears if their grievances are not sincere and they only exist to try and mold the space or medium or hobby to reflect their Presentism wordview and contemporary political liberal orthodoxy.
https://old.reddit.com/r/Grimdank/comments/1baeeoc/warhammer_memes/ku2ciba/?context=8
Gooners unite
"boobs are a distriction"
You don't fricking say
Boob armour is a good thing actually
https://old.reddit.com/r/Grimdank/comments/1baeeoc/warhammer_memes/ku22333/?context=8
Example of the Puritan exposing theyself
Also lol for some reason our buddy keeps referring to as "Bobs". I first thought this was just a joking quirk from them, but it appears that they are genuinely in a form censoring themselves from saying the icky word boobs blol
"You wouldn't be this enthusiastic if the Space Marines had peepee armour bro"
"Actually yes I would - more battle peepee-rings plz"
As per usual all of the top comments about how our puritan soys totally find fully practically armoured chicks to be more attractive than these filthy devianst sexualing m'lady's form
Now on the surface level this might seem like a sincere attempt to bring us all back to reality
I also like subs like https://old.reddit.com/r/armoredwomen/ and https://old.reddit.com/r/ReasonableFantasy/ where chicks are shown from art internetwide in practical getups and uniforms ect
But what we are seeing is not sincerity, these weaklings are attempting to cater to wokescolds and feminist puritans, to bow down and be doormats for people who complain about inconsequential nonsense.
It is not enough that non-satirical female gaurdmen, Inquisitors, Starship pilots, Rogue Traders, planetary Governesses, and powerful non-sexual female characters proliferate the entirety of the 40k universe. It is not enough for them to just ignore the silly stupidity of 20 year old sexualized faction aimed at teenage boys just be a relic of yesteryear, easily ignored beacuse the faction is propably the least popular of any fieldable faction of the official 40K boardgame.
No, these slimy f@ggots have to expunge all male-oriented stuff from the very existence of the medium or lore or subreddit, you'll see them about how this totally doesn't bother them if ignored.
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ngl I'm attracted to that helmeted design way more than any of those white-haired thots
Helmets are sexy
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Strangest of all is that the specific artist of the shit meme, makes a lot of smutty 40K art, and even parodies himself
https://www.deviantart.com/gray-skull
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Try dating an r-slured girl then
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I think it's time for men.
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Zoomers and especially progressives want things to either be hardcore porn or totally puritan, also half of 40k fans transitioned so flipped into being soy feminists after changing teams. Sad.
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really do wonder where this attiude came from anyways, as spontaneous generation of mores seems very unlikely, especially given how widespread this seems to be.
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Widespread access to pornography gives people instant sexual gratification, so no more need for horny bait in every day media. Over time the two completely diverge.
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maybe, but I'm more inclined to blame the second order effects of foidemism.
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To be honest that doesn't seem to be the result, in fact it's the opposite I'd say. Just look at anime where coomer media and regular entertainment are almost inseparable in the mainstream. American live action and animated media constantly push the boundaries when it comes displaying sexual content on screen as well. Social media is currently dominated by coomerbait posts which regularly hit high viewer numbers.
The pushback is from 1) moids who are annoyed at the dumbing down of the content they like + constant simping and 2) foids who are annoyed that moids pay the most attention to foids when they post coomerbait over everything else. Even the foids that post coomerbait get mad when they try to post anything else and get way less engagement.
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Yeah everyone else here is dumb, zoomers are horny as shit. They're always openly talking about their fetishes and what anime they're masturbating to. I wish they'd be more puritan. Like, show some discretion at least instead of just blurting it out. But no, they're going to Heck.
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Funniest part is compared to previous generations zoomers are having less s*x and more importantly less relationships than ever. The coomerism is just increasing because it's rushing in to fill the vacuum left behind.
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Zoomers are the Japanese, basically
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It's weird because this happened right after Game of Thrones stopped being the biggest show on TV which is the total antithesis to this attitude. Zoomers decided to extend their sexless adolescence. Don't worry, the kitty President is going to get zoomers laid and bring a close to the endless adolescence.
https://www.businessinsider.com/biden-worried-during-pandemic-young-people-s*x-2024-3
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I never watched that show (too young), but my understanding is that it's closer to pornography than arousing.
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it's r-slurred and only losers liked it the first episode literally has an incest s*x scene and season 1 is considered by most too be the high water mark of the series lmao
@Pikachu love sucking peepee
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They can't get any so they pretend they don't want it
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that doesn't compute. They aren't getting exposed to titillation so they don't want any?
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They can't get s*x so they pretend to be put off by s*x.
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Porn's still consumed in large quantities, what's gone is the sexuality.
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Porn isn't real, s*x is. Real intimacy is scary.
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I agree, but that has nothing to do with what I'm talking about.
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I don't understand this attitude
When we had middle ground. vanilla fanservice there was no problems with coomers
I wonder why?
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It makes gatekeeping a lot harder when they out once already in.
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It's the Nexus of Being saturated with internet pornography you either
Become a sad and annoying gooner that needs everything sexualized
Become annoyed everything is trying to make you horny so you want less horny media
The bad actors that are gooners and groomers but want to hide in the facade of being moralizing wokescolds. These are the worst because they're not honest with anyone and they must want the medium and community to be worse off dealing with their bullshit
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Employ one of these many arguments:
Why do you care?
Don't like? Don't buy
Idk bro s*x based statistics are kinda sexist
It doesn't harm anyone
People complaining about this are sexist
This person is advocating for the erasure of women
How woul YOU draw a female soace marine?
Why do you care bro it doesn't infringe on how you play the game
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If OP wasn't a cute twink he would pin this
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THEY ARENT SPACE MARINES
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space marine
space marine
space marine
Trans lives matter
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*just let people enjoy things
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Culture warriors when the extreme dark power metal fantasy setting has impractical and unrealistic designs
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That's part of why I like both the old and the new designs for the Sororitas. The older designs are visually appealing because they're gritty, the new designs are appealing because they're ludicrous - not because they're sexy. The entire point of the setting is reduction to the absurd (of absolutely everything).
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Tacticoolising the space marines was the worst thing GW ever did, replacing the medieval looking armour that had been passed down for millennia as an honoured relic with tacticool Primaris who have everything fresh of a factory really hurt the cool space warrior monk thing they had going on.
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It's doesn't make sense in "RETVRNING" to the technology of the Great Crusade either. Every sourcebook and artwork for the Horus Heresy and Great Crusade is incredibly baroque, ostentatious and impressive. It's even mentioned that Emperor made everything so grand in scale and aesthetic to awe humanity into eager submission. !chuds
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!oldstrags
Remember when warhams didn't have foids
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It still doesnt trans lives matter
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Still doesn't
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I DO not...
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I had no idea they had foids during the beakies era
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MANY VALIDS LIKE TO USE THE FEMALE SPACE ADVENTURERS FROM ROGUE TRADER AS EVIDENCE OF FEMALE SPACE marines...
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I don't care about these overpriced funko pops' lore but I wholeheartedly agree with
These people cannot stand it that there is anything left that's just enjoyed by guys because it's aimed at them. They colonize and eat away at every fandom like locusts until there is nothing left but "discourse" and all fun has been drained out of it.
Aggressively gatekeep your hobbies.
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No foid will ever touch my cannon!
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Based enjoyer
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I FRICKING HATE YOU
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Might actually be Americans with British helmets and a French gun.
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Its not a frog cannon, it fires cannonballs
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They resemble yesteryear's puritan Christcucks in many ways
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Your soul is tainted with implicit bias by being born into a sinful society, to overcome this you have to read critical theory and the lived experiences of the marginalized. You have to paint a mural of Saint Floyd and mourn his martyrdom every year. Also pay tithe to progressive causes and finance the progressive priesthood.
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Hail the Emp- I mean Saint Floyd
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He died for your sins (racism and colonialism).
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He died for our sin of not legalizing fentanyl. Honor his memory by voting Chapose For President 2024 to LEGALIZE FENTANYL NOW!!!
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Yeah their mentality is unironically a lot easier to understand when you approach it like a religious cult.
Juat instead of flavor-aid with cyanide, its soylent with progesterone...
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I'm constantly amazed by modern progressivism and its capacity to make everything gay and lame. Tolkein was right; evil cannot create, it can only corrupt and destroy.
Even when I found religious activists to be annoying, I could at least understand where they were coming from in terms of conserving cultural norms for the sake of societal cohesion. Progressive zealots just espouse the most r-slurred and self-destructive shit you can imagine, then double down because it somehow still wasn't self-flagellating enough.
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They are the same people, we even have the "everyone is a Nazi/Fascist/Bigot" (Satanic Panic), and the "misogynistic male gaze/problematic r*pe scenes" (Video Games cause violence).
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Because that's what they are. Christianity in American has failed so utterly and thoroughly to capture the youth in recent decades that even the people with what I'd call 'puritan frickwit tendencies' couldn't relate to it. But they still have those puritan frickwit tendencies, so they still want to act like annoying Christcucks, and the moment they found another cultural movement that would allow them to do so, they went all-in.
Unfortunately, all the in-built 'defenses' against puritan frickwits have always been aimed at right-wingers/christcucks. So giving the exact same shit a left-learning spin basically turned it into an unstoppable Trojan Horse, unknown to the immune system of nerd-culture at large. Add a dash of male loneliness to the mix, and you've got a stew baby, because now (in theory), it's not crusty 60-year-old men in suspenders wagging the finger at you, but theoretically actual, (POTENTIALLY FRICKABLE!!!!) women.
(In reality it's all those other 26 year old guys with hipster beards, you know the type.)
Had a forum I used to like get taken over by these sorts of people and the arguments they have over the slightest minutiae of how the place is run are indistinguishable from my neighborhood's HOA page. These folks are going to grow into the most miserable fricking 40 year old karens.
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Calvinism and its consequences have been a disaster for Western society.
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Yesteryear? They're banning porn in Texas right now
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't they just make age limits more strict rather than banning porn for everyone?
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Sororitias weren't even that sexualized. It's a much more toned down sword and sorcery pulp style (but in space!). In a setting where everything is exaggerated to the extreme its not like they have gigga butt and tits to be exploitive.
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The early 80s black and white art looks more like rock and roll posters, but I can't find them online
There's famous one of a space marine kissing a Sorroritas
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Old 40k was so fricking weird. Orks played heavy metal, they were called Rokkas. And even the Ultramarines had a literal dance squad that boarded space hulks and literally danced at Genestealers.
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and the noise marines were less hideous monstrosity, and just dudes with literal guitars, they were very cooky
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They're some of my favorite things in the setting. Did you know they're based on real classical music riots?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_classical_music_concerts_with_an_unruly_audience_response
The performance of the Maraviglia is an almost direct reference to the first performance of Stravinsky's Rite of Spring (and Wagner's Tannhäuser, as he actually invented an instrument for his opening). The whole “sound as a weapon” thing is a reference to classical Dada and Surrealist thought, which often advocated for art that was an “assault on the senses”.
Having beautiful men twisted into demons by the music is a tale as old as Western composition.
It's a pretty obscure reference. I guess art-historycels needed a job.
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Shut up nerd
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Yeah, it's never really been egregious. Some sects even have vows of chastity so it's pretty much just Your Girls for the like four girls who play the game. You can make them as slutty or as chaste as you want.
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Call me crazy but the original "sexy" armor for the battle nuns does not even seem egregiously sexualized. They're covered and they're wearing thick plate with spikes and shit on it. Are we really malding because women have boobs? Everything in Warhammer is intentionally, satirically exaggerated, idk why boob armor for warrior nuns wouldn't fit in.
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It is all actually pretty reasonable. It was actually meant as a way for GW to reach out to female players in a game that had always been ludicrously masculine, which is incredibly egalitarian insofar as literally no women play this game.
So the Sororitas were meant to be appealing to women, and only over time did the whole “male gaze” thing creep in. But, in keeping with the times, girls are now hornier and more bi than ever before, so this turns out not to have alienated the like, four women who play this game.
Puritans see an actual good-faith attempt at feminism as an attack. The Sororitas were made by dorky guys who probably were trying their best but may not really understand what female empowerment might look like. This was the best they could do. It really wasn't bad.
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They had a better idea of what it looks like than any feminist bitching about it ever could.
The men in Warhammer are hot, badass, and heavily armoured, so they made the women hot, badass, and heavily armoured. They gave them equality in the setting and it still wasn't enough.
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The female fans actually do seem to really like the Sororitas. They even made a sick VR game. They have put in a lot of effort for a very, very small amount of people and it's been well-received. It's mostly just the reddit s who are big mad. Everyone else is just enjoying their dorky spaceshit.
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There's an entire faction of blonde vampire pretty boys who wear sculpted ab armour into battle and nobody ever gives them shit.
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Some (probably retroactive) justification Ive seen brought up is that since battle sisters were a way of getting around no soldiers is that boob plate emphasises that they are indeed women and thus not breaking the rules, and Also miniatures making small details harder to see
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Nobody ever remembers the Sisters of Silence.
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Those the ones that basically take polymorph:grim dark edition and literally shape change, right? You'd think they would have a legion of fans for that alone.
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No that's the Callidus Clade of the Officio Assassinorum, who are also really cool. They frequently change into dudes so probably like them.
Sisters of Silence were quite literally the only women allowed in the presence of the Emperor and they had to take a lifelong vow to stfu. They are all Blanks/Pariahs and are immune to warp bullshit, which may have been his reason for making them swear to silence more than them being women. They were never disbanded but were largely forgotten after the Horus Heresy, which is not unusual for pariahs (not all pariahs/blanks are women). Most of them are killed during infancy and the rest generally do not have good lives.
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SOUPED WITH THE BANANA boys...
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That OP really exposing his own issues
Dude is creepier than coomers
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he's a puritan, nothing more or less, but dresses it up in liberal dogma
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He is still commenting under 6 day old post lol
He also doesn't seem to have an issue with sexualizing male characters of questionable age
Fricking shotacon creep
No wonder he hates big breasts
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Theres already a gender-agnostic, equal-opportunity faction. Theyre called Craftworld Eldar and they also have boobplate. Why dont soys ever b-word about female Guardian torsos and Howling Banshees having big tits?
Plus Dark Eldar who are even more fan-servicey. Where are the soys bitching about how projecting a BDSM fetish onto elf foids harms women?
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I think it's just the fans not understanding the whole “nobody is the good guy” thing. They see the Imperium as good, so they must also be feminists (lol), whereas the Dark Eldar's entire gimmick is being really bad (so it's okay if they're into bad things like BDSM).
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Dark Eldar only exist when people need to argue about if the Emperor is a good guy or when telling stories about that guy you totally heard about who brought porn sculpt dark eldar to play against a 6 year old in a game shop.
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At least people are willing to call out the anti-incel schizophrenia
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But OP fits that meme
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the truth is the truth. Traditions and religions exist cause they work. If they didn't work their followers would have died out. If feminists insist on learning the hard way that premarital s*x is a sin, thats on them
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