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[๐Ÿค“๐Ÿ”˜๐Ÿ”˜๐Ÿ”˜๐Ÿ”˜] U of M's infectious disease center spread misleading COVID-19 information

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When people asked Winston Churchill what to do about Pรฉtain after he surrendered to the Nazis he said he obviously needed to be fired but also added โ€œMay we never find ourselves in the circumstances that broke that manโ€. Have some fricking grace for the people thrust in to the position of having to make societal impacting decisions with very little data and evidence. Yes mistakes were made. Get the frick over it already. This was four fricking years ago (-13)

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Nah dude, pure coincidenceย  (3)

You understand that the lab was put next to the wet market for a reason right? It was because new diseases were coming out of the wet market.I'm curious why so many people are more likely to believe the fringe theories than they are the consensus. (-6)

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Jesus frickin christ, man. Move on already. (-3)

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But given the circumstances known at the time (eg, the Wuhan Institute was carrying out risky research on coronaviruses, lab leaks are a known hazard and do occur, a thorough investigation on SARS-CoV-2's origin hadn't even began, etc) there was no basis to label a lab leak a "conspiracy". It was a completely legitimate hypothesis. (1)

That's true. The lab leak theory got unfairly associated with various bioengineering and biological weapon theories early in the pandemic - and many of those absolutely are conspiracy theories. As a result, many scientists wrongly attacked the entire premise of the lab leak theory.It still doesn't mean it was wrong to say there was no evidence to support a lab leak hypothesis, nor was it wrong to believe that zoonotic crossover was the most likely origin. And that's still largely true today. But the knee jerk reaction against any kind of lab leak hypothesis was wrong. (1)

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In May of 2020 there was no evidence for a laboratory origin. There was coincidence and supposition, but neither of those things are evidence.A lab leak is also not mutually exclusive with a natural origin. It's entirely possible for a completely natural virus being studied at WIV to have escaped containment. Many people seem to get in their head that lab leak must mean genetic manipulation of the virus, and that simply isn't true. While genetic manipulation of SARS-CoV-2 pretty much requires a lab leak origin, a natural virus could have spread in Wuhan either from a lab leak or from environmental crossover. (-2)

But given the circumstances known at the time (eg, the Wuhan Institute was carrying out risky research on coronaviruses, lab leaks are a known hazard and do occur, a thorough investigation on SARS-CoV-2's origin hadn't even began, etc) there was no basis to label a lab leak a "conspiracy". It was a completely legitimate hypothesis. (1)

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I think people would be well served by general skepticism towards the things academics are saying and writing. The institution has unfortunately been ideologically captured. Peer review, etc are simply ineffective mechanisms to generate truth.ย  (9)

Peer review is trash, just learned even if they do punish a doctor they will keep it under the 30 day mark so it's not reported. Also a doctor can kill you, lose their license in that state, move and still have their license. (-1)

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I have empathy for both sides on this one, the government acted to silence opposition and they should be taken to task for being wrong, but also the "trust the science XD" meme has led to chuds simply declaring anything they don't like the implications of to be biased and refusing to vaccinate their kid for measles. The average person is a moron who probably should blindly trust the corrupt experts because they're too stupid to do otherwise

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Government opted to handle the situation with lies and tyranny. If the measles come back and kill us all cause people can no longer trust the institutions, its just us reaping what we've sown by allowing the corruption to continue

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Does it actually mean that or does it mean there are lots of people who will believe the earth is 6000 years old because to do otherwise would contradict what they want to believe

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>The average person is a moron who probably should blindly trust the corrupt experts because they're too stupid to do otherwise

Yeah bro, all those PhDs in 1980s Romania who wrote books on "Scientific" socialism are expects that should be listened to. Don't mind or notice the fact that the president's dumbshit yokel wife declared herself the expert of science in the country, don't notice that she can't even pronounce C02 properly and can barely read or write. Let's totally listen to her theories about mixing all the donated blood together to create a better Romanian people, it won't spread AIDS, trust the experts.

Nobody remembers that the commieshit societies had this exact sort of "trust the science" going on, and after it collapsed all those losers writing wordswordswords about communist theory were pumping gas.

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