Kids just walking past as I say hello/goodbye and saying nothing : Teachers | "Kids don't want to talk to me, has the west fallen?"

I was in high school in the 90s. I have only been teaching for two years, though. Was this something that always happened? When did it change?

I was doing it as a kid in 00s because I didn't like school, didn't like my teachers and didn't want to talk to them.

Heck when my french teacher said good morning to me in 8th I asked her how the heck she knew what kinda of god darn day it was. My dad thought it was funny, my mum less so.

I know some people will just say that parents don't parent anymore, but if that is part of it, why don't parents parent anymore?

Parenting has nothing to do with it. They don't like you and don't want to talk to you, so they make it known in the most respectful and less disruptive way they don't like you.

I think it's easy to look at surface level reasons, but it feels like shit is deeply wrong with us as a society and it's showing up in how disconnected we are on a community level. Yes, kids are rude buttholes sometimes, but why?

Because you're wasting their time with a variety of useless classes, taking them from their family under threat of state intervention and generally pissing them off.

Also, if you have had this issue, but made changes and saw improvement in your students regarding this, what did you do? I do not want to force or bully my students into saying hello and goodbye, but I want to establish that expectation.

And they don't want to say a single word more to you than strictly necessary. My teachers tried twisting my arm on this too and all it did was make me dig in my heels. At the end of the say if you can waste 10% of the class making the teacher stand over your desk repeating "HECK-O" trying (in their usually childish and woman like manner) of forcing a response the other kids will like you more for it anyway.

I am out of the classroom and have an arrival post outside in the morning. I say good morning to every student -- most by name. Only about 50% of them say anything back. It's crazy to me.

Do these people really not realize how many students view them as nothing more than prison guards?

I spent 2 years saying good morning in the halls before school to complete silence from students and adults…year 3 I started getting responses…just keep chipping away

The adults not responding infuriates me the most. Teenagers are just being teenagers. Adults ignoring my good morning is just rude and they know better.

They're so addicted to staring at screens that they don't make eye contact anymore, and they hardly ever converse with anyone.

lol this started before smart phones even existed.

I keep saying good morning and follow them around until they respond. Even the most anxious, selective mute of a student can respond.

They can also just head to the shitter lol. They can ditch class, your butt would get fired.