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EFFORTPOST [LOOONGPOST] Yo guys, I've realized why our boi :marseyflagsouthafrica: Sneedman has such terminal autismo regarding circumcision :marseyguillotine: :marseycock: - The story of Ulwaluko!

Referring back to his analysis regarding the recent Safrican election, our site's best poster said he went back to his parent's in KwaZulu-Natal province.

https://rdrama.net/post/273444/umkhonto-we-sizwe-the-rise-of

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But what really seals the deal to my suspicion is the way he phrased the following reply!

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"I vehemently oppose :marseydisagreewarpspeed: circumcision of children :marseychildclutch: and small :marseytiny3: boys."

And small boys, that just confirms to me precisely why he hates the very notion of circumcision the way that our poor soul does :marseycheerup: :marseycheerup: :marseycheerup:


ULWALUKO:

Basically an ancient initiation rite into manhood practiced by Zulus and Xhosas.

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In summary, the ingcibi/indoena (ceremonial surgeon/ spiritual leader/ chieftan) surgically removes the foreskin :marseyfsjal: :marseyguillotine: :guillotine: :marseybundle: during the ritual process - after which which the boys/ young-men are isolated into a place of seclusion for a period of time, and restricted of only to only eating certain traditional food, usually red meat for that period.

Now the exact specifics of the post-circumcision ceremony varies tremendously on region, province, sub-tribe, homeland, ethnicity and district. However, the trope is that for about a week to a month, the boy or group of boys are isolated to a hut/facility away from the village/town/community called the bhoma. The restricted diet usually consists of nothing but red meat and water, but depending on the financial state of that specific tribe/community, or their traditions, that ceremonial food can instead be "Pap" (african porridge)

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Sometimes water may be restricted to enforce hardship and test the mettle and resolve of the boys.

Again the specifics really fricking depend upon the specific sub-tribe or traditions of said community. The initiation ritual is commonly conducted during late June/early July or late November/ early December each year. the boys/ young-men on the cusp of adulthood who partake in these rite-of-manhood ceremonies are called "Abakhwetha"

In the most extreme variations of these rite-of-manhood ceremonies, the rite is ended, when the temporary bhoma hut of the boy/boys is burned down with all of their clothes the had worn during the ceremony, to demonstrate and symbolize the transition of boy to manhood. Finally, each initiate receives a new super special :marseycomfy: :marseychudneet: :marseybearblanket: blanket (usually but not always made by their mothers or betrothed), and walks victoriously back into town wearing nothing but their blanket (nude underneath), with their heads held high, signalling to the rest of their townsmen their glorious and successful transition into manhood!

Again the hut burning :marseyburn: :marseyburn: :marseyburn: :marseyfine: :marseyfine: :marseyfine: thing is extreme and not always a factor of the ceremony, and usually reserved for the upper classes of Zulus/Xhosas if they even add that part to the ceremony of Ulwaluko - but the 2 factors always constant regardless of the variations of the different ceremonies practiced across south africa are,

(1) The circumcision by ceremonial surgeon or tribal cultural leader (awake and without any fricking anesthetic or pain medication, because this is a trial of hardiness, and pain suppressants are for p#ssies)

(2) The special blanket walk back to family, to triumphantly indicate for the rest of your social peers and family your success in the ceremony! :petergriffinyes:


MENSUR:

Now for those of you limp-wristed weak western eurocucks, whom had never known suffering or strife or hardship or famine in this modern world, and don't understand what the frick all this peepee cutting insanity is all about, let me try and explain with a frame of reference.

I made a post many months ago about the insane rite-of-manhood ceremonies in yesteryear's Krautland, called Mensur. Where Kraut upper-classes and aristocracy and club-members, would prove their value and worth amongst their peers in their in standing quasi sword fighting, with fencing swords,

where the actual and unironic objective of the fricking fencing match, is to DELIBERATELY continue sparring with each other to facilitate the acquisition of permanent facial scarring via sword strikes! in fact the Mensur matches would often continue UNTIL at least both opponents were visually scarred on their faces.

The acquisition of these prominent facial scars were so extreme within the social peer pressures enduced circles of Kraut upper classes and high tertiary education clubs in kraut universities, that kraut men would amplify their facial disfigurements by adding fricking salt into their wounds! Or continue to exaggerate/inflame their facial wounds to lengthen the healing wounds and make their facial scares even more prominent.

These facial disfigurements would heighten their social status and their eligibility amongst kraut women! A that time men with clear Mensur scars were considered "handsome" or at least outstanding.

The point of all of this insanity was to demonstrate amongst your peers your resolve, your bravery, your discipline and valor. All qualities valued in men amongst each other, and improving the sexual and romantic worth of men amongst women.

Mensur scars enhanced the standing of kraut men in society and the practice was so fricking prominent in Germany pre-WW2 that the eminence of the stereotype of Kraut Nazi badguys in Hollyweird having facial disfigurements, literally influenced the shitty trope of later yank WW2slop movies of german commanders having facial disfigurements, including non-Mensur induced disfigurements as the later movie directors didn't understand that the scars were historically accurate much of the time.

I know all of you worthless fricking reddit soys will :soycry: :soysnooseethe: :soymad: :soyjak: :carpsoyjak: :chudsoy: b-word about toxic masculinity :marseypussyhat: :marseywitch2: :marseysuffragette: in these extreme rituals, without understanding the complex social factors which enabled their formation in the past.

Men needed to demonstrate that in die circumstances and hard times, that they could be counted on. In the medieval Kraut times, and pre-colonial era of South-Eastern Africa there were no police or army or outside help, only the kommando or village militia banding together against outside threats of banditry. You needed to know you could count on your neighbours when it came a fight or shit hitting the fan.

And it usually only applied men, because.....well....you guys saw how worthless those Kraut Foid Policewomen were during the stabbing two days ago, completely parralized and indecisive.


HOW WE GOT HERE:

Since democratization 30 years ago, the peepee cutting ceremonies of Zulus and Xhosas have been perpetually controversial in South African circles.

I've told you guys before that it is hard to compare the relative conservative nature between demographics, and how for example the average Boer/afrikaner is much more religious and conservative than the average Bongoloid, both those in England and the Cape. Well the average black person in SA is even MORE conservative than the average Boer, and NONE more so regarding the infamous Zulus.

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When I refer to conservative nature, I mean attitudes regarding homosexuality, anti-immigration sentiment and women's rights. Of all the various black ethnicities, between Lesothos, Sothos, Pedis, Khoisan, Tswanes, Xhosas - NONE are as tribal and batshit insane on average regarding the conservation of their culture and traditions!

Back in 1994, Nelson Mandela and the top-brass of the ANC was so shit scared of not winning a majority in the 1st Democratic election, because Mandela had made a vast coalition between people of so many different tribes and ethnicities, that Mandela had basically bet everything on this final non-violent push. Many had opposed Mandela's approach to a non-violent and democratic overthrow of the Apartheid government, without the loss of critical infrastructure and a violent Civil War like Mozambique, Mandela had wanted to imitate Ghandi's tremendously successful peaceful overthrow of the British colony of India, especially as the ANC had overwhelming international and UN support at that moment in time.

However in that weird moment in 1993-1994, Mandela would confess he was secretly fearful that the Black voting Bloc would be split into hundreds of useless tiny fragmented shit-tier mini-parties. Although we know now in historic hindsight, the ANC would dominate with an astronomical 60 plus fricking percent in that election,

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this was not so obvious at the time, and Mandela feared the white racists would state that the tribalism and factionalism within the voting outcome was proof that Apartheid's ending was not so popular amongst the country's minority populations. Of course now in hindsight, the ANC dominating with 65% of the electorate, and dominating so for 30 years onward might seem obvious for those not versed in the thinking of the time.

I go on this giant fricking tangent, because it needs to be understood that Mandela's administration made a metric shitload of concessions to soooooooooooooooooooooo many black tribes, interest groups and separate ANC sub-factions, just so that the ANC collective would remain unified and push through in this momentous and historic election of 1994.

It was these myriads of concessions, which led to Mandela practicing from the onset Nepotism on a national scale. He didn't just give all the best black leaders key roles, but top ANC faction leaders key positions in the ministry, on the provincial level and so on. Mandela believed at the time, it was more important to charge headfirst for Democratization and black enfranchisement, and that the Nepotism would resolve itself with time :marseycringe: :marseycringe: :marseycringe: :marseycringe: :marseycringe: of course this unfortunately set the precedent on the foundational level of government for nepotism, even if Mandela and his immediate cabinet was themselves competent and charismatic leaders (Anyways that's another story)

The important bit is that one of the most extreme concessions Mandela's admin gave was with regards to autonomous homeland rule, especially for the ethnic group of Zulus, the most populous ethnic group of South Africa (at 22%) and the most powerful voting bloc within the ANC at the time of 1994, and ever since.

The Zulu homelands and parallel societies allowed zulu indoenas and chieftans to tell provincial governments and police to frick off out of their affairs and their internal cultural matters - which is why amongst KwaZulu-Natal has the largest amounts of sexual misconduct in the country in rural regions, as police presence and the supposed feminist mantra of the ANC's equality manifests cannot reach. Combined with the hyper conservative nature of Zulu society on average, and you have constant social drama regarding Zulu's telling other ANC groups to keep their noses out of their cultural affairs.


CONTROVERSY OF ULWALUKO:

Even beyond the r*pe-culture of South Africa, one of the biggest controversial :slapfight: :slapfight: :slapfight: :slapfight: :slapfight: :slapfight: :slapfight: b-word fighting within the country :marseyflagsouthafrica: :marseyflagsouthafrica: :marseyflagsouthafrica: is regarding the legitimacy of young-adult circumcision and ceremonies like Ulwaluko.

Many Zulu-feminist groups put their money where their mouths are and actually DO fight for equality for their male peers unlike Western foids, and have campaigned for over 30 years to end the practices of Ulwaluko, calling it antiquated and barbaric. These women don't usually get far, and it says a lot about the conservative nature of a society, when it is the women of that group complaining the loudest on behalf of their male peers.

The biggest fricking issue with Ulwaluko is that the ceremonial surgeon is often not an actual surgeon. The expertise of the surgeon varies CONSIDERALY across zulu/xhosa society, with some old men being so refined in their craft that they cause minimal suffering for the poor whimpering boys under their care, while others are basically fricking backyard butchers with a cleaver :wolfsfear: :wolfsfear: :wolfsfear:

The variation in the conduct of this foreskin cutting ceremony also means that there are constant present dangers of frickups. Since typically this rite of manhood is done without painkillers and anesthetic, the chances of miscutting, especially as the unlocky boy in question is usually under absolutely horrific agony, is very high. Cuts much deeper than intended, or damage beyond the glans, or even cuts right into the fricking peepee itself has meant that almost a thousand Zulu boys have been recorded to bled to death since 1994.

Compounded with the fact that these ceremonies are held in secret, isolated rural places, away from women and civilization deliberately, the ability to ambulance a boy bleeding to death easily, EVEN IF the batshit insane ceremonial surgeon is compassionate enough to try and save that boy, is slim, if he doesn't just tell the dying boy to literally "walk it off you p#ssuy" I am literally, LITERALLY not joking.

https://www.ndtv.com/world-news/south-africa-circumcision-ritual-a-dangerous-route-to-manhood-1728171

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Coffee Bay, South Africa: Naked, covered in white clay mud, and with his peepee wrapped in leaves, Abongile Maqegu, 20, sits in a hut in South Africa recovering from his circumcision -- a traditional ritual that can prove fatal.

For Maqegu, it has been a gruelling initiation test that marks his arrival as an adult, and the pain is an essential part of the experience.

"You must go through that pain to show that you are a man," he told AFP outside the coastal village of Coffee Bay about 100 kilometres (60 miles) from Umtata in Eastern Cape province.

"We don't even think of (getting) a medical circumcision because it is the easy way out. We laugh at those who go to hospitals."

Maqegu is one of thousands of youths from the Xhosa ethnic group attending this year's annual winter initiation schools across Eastern Cape province.

After his foreskin is cut off by a tribal elder using a knife, he is kept in the small thatched rondavel hut with two other initiates for up to four weeks, with a "bush doctor" present at all times monitoring their wounds.

The initiates are allowed no contact with women, and spend their time playing cards, applying mud and stoking the smoky fire to try to keep warm.

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"If you go to hospital you are weak, you are not a man. Your wound must not be treated with Betadine (disinfectant)," Maqegu said.

"There is special traditional medicine for that and it heals fast."

Secretive ceremony:

He revealed tree leaves tied like a bandage around his genitals, which are also covered in a traditional healing ointment and held to one side by string.

The ritual is revered and guarded by the Xhosa people, but the unhygienic conditions -- and abuse by some initiation schools -- exacts a heavy toll.

At least 11 youths have already died during this southern hemisphere winter in Eastern Cape, according to provincial officials, while the government says several hundred have died nationwide in initiation schools since 1995.

Often the cause is infection from a botched circumcision, which can lead to peepee amputation surgery.

Circumcision has also been demonstrated to be a powerful weapon in the fight against HIV, by helping to protect men from the AIDS virus.

But specialists -- meeting in Paris from Sunday for a four-day forum on HIV/AIDS -- remain worried about botched operations and poor hygiene.

Other risks include dehydration or maltreatment by initiation leaders, who conduct the secretive circumcision rituals deep in the mountains.

Recognised as a man:

In another grass-thatched hut, 200 metres away, sitting on a reed mat, is 20-year-old Fezikhaya Tselane, who has just returned from his circumcision rites in the remote bush.

As he nurses the sore wound, his bush doctor sits close by, surrounded by dirty pots, plates and empty beer bottles strewn over the floor.

"I have been waiting for this day. All my brothers have gone through this process," Tselane told AFP, entirely covered in white mud, which is meant to ward off evil spirits as well as preserve body warmth.

"In our Xhosa culture, if you don't go through traditional circumcision you are not recognised as a man.

"Now I can marry, have my own house and kids and not depend on my parents."

Mxolisi Dimaza, chairman of the Eastern Cape provincial health committee, said authorities were determined to curb injuries and deaths in the initiation schools.

"This year a considerable amount of resources were made available so that we do not experience many more deaths," he told AFP after his recent field visit to several initiation sites.

"However, there are still problem areas where we have illegal initiation schools. These are where the school itself is not registered and the initiates are often below 18 years old."

The province has hired 35 4x4 vehicles to patrol initiation practices in a region of steep hills, dirt roads and rough tracks.

It has also passed a law setting out a minimum age of 18, and establishing a registry of accredited bush doctors and schools. From the age of 16, boys can be circumcised with their parents' permission.

Medical risks:

Dimaza appealed for any initiates suffering from infections or ill-health to go immediately to hospital, adding that parents should not feel social pressure for their children to have traditional circumcisions.

"It is our culture -- but if the parents want their child to have it medically, we don't object," he said.

The tradition has become tainted in recent years by commercialisation, with some bush doctors charging large amounts of money, while some initiates have been found to be as young as 13.

Initiation ceremonies have also spread to other provinces such as KwaZulu Natal and Mpumalanga, boosted in part by UN-backed information that male circumcision reduces the risk of heterosexually-acquired HIV infection by 60 percent.

For one bush doctor, proper care should mean that initiates are able to experience the ritual in a safe and deeply spiritual manner.

"You have to be careful and take good care, otherwise the wound gets sceptic," said Lukholo Marhenene, 21, who has been nursing initiates for three years.

"You must change the leaves often and keep the wound clean and dry.

"During the month I will be attending to him, he stays in the hut. Only his father and other boys who have already gone through initiation are allowed to visit.

"After two weeks, we slaughter a goat to appease the spirits."

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https://www.ajol.info/index.php/actat/article/view/49044

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Many Zulu/Xhosa christians have cultural disagreements between the rest of their peers about the legitimacy of these ceremonies, and often have conflict regarding their faiths.

"Among the Xhosa of South Africa, male circumcision remains a very important ritual. The question as to whether Christians should accept these rites and continue to send their children to traditional schools practising it is very important. In this article the implications of the ritual and the way in which proponents use the Bible are evaluated. It is argued that there should be an honest encounter with the rite from a biblical perspective. Solutions should be evaluated and explained. From a Christian perspective total rejection is not possible, but the church should remain faithful to the truth of the gospel."

They are NOT even outright rejecting circumcision or via the ritual, only arguing how this important cultural artifact fits within their cristian faith!!


https://mg.co.za/article/2013-08-16-00-the-boys-who-lost-their-manhood/

Sometimes the boys survive, but the botched circumcision by the backyard butchers, causes such infection, that amputation of their :marseyblackcock: is needed to save their lives :marseycringe: :marseycringe: :marseycringe:

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"According to government statistics, 26 of the Eastern Cape's 39 initiation-related deaths this year happened in Pondoland, a mountainous 50km-wide coastal strip that stretches between the Mthatha and Mtamvuna rivers in the former Transkei."


https://web.archive.org/web/20211003000555/http://www.ulwaluko.co.za/Problems.html

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"Details of the ritual are to be kept secret from females or non-initiated males. This complicates supervision, especially in Pondoland where the majority of the elders have not undergone the ritual themselves. It also impedes discussion of problems in a public space."

Yes what's especially heinous and absurd is the hypocracy of many Zulu elders whom advocate for the continuation of these ceremonies, or the fricking REVIVAL of these ceremonies where they had fallen out of favor - even if they THEMSELVES had never gone through with it!! And thus have no hereditary experience regarding the clean and fricking proper foreskin cutting in the middle of the bush, with no sanitary preparations! And just expecting boys as young as 16 years old to fricking heal naturally within dusty isolated huts with bleeding pricks!!!!

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Sometimes the poor frickers are subjected to dull knives without antiseptics!

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And on and one you guys don't have to read the images to see the host of medical problems with this practice.


SECRECY ulwaluko.co.za WEBSITE CONTROVERSY:

https://mg.co.za/article/2009-07-18-tackling-the-matter-headon/

The worst parts of these ceremonies is their inherent cultural secrecy. Details of the ritual are not supposed to be disclosed to females or non-initiated males; according to the principle of 'what happens in the bush, stays in the bush'

So many peeps, including Zulu peeps and zulu/xhosa women aren't even aware that the nature of these manhood ceremonies can be utterly depraved and under incompetent supervision. Zulu mothers encourage their young sons to undergo these manhood rites so that they might find a girl who finds them worthy, and only in hindsight realizes to her horror the gruesome ordeal in which she had placed her son in.

Zulu liberal peeps who speak against the practice are called f@ggot gays as only homosexuals don't have their pricks properly circumcised. The cultural pressure amongst Zulu and Xhosa rural peeps (which is pretty much MOST of them lol) is just that fricking strong.

"Cultural prejudice may be so great that uncircumcised or 'improperly' circumcised men are attacked and beaten for their lack of conformity"

Back in 2014 some filthy Mayo Cheesehead !dutch fricker placed his nose into Zulu/Xhosa business and made a website called ulwaluko.co.za, where he placed gore pictures of botched circumcisions and amputations and infections and so on,

to warm Safricans about the dangers and lack of proper trained medical supervision on these secretive ceremonies. The followed a massive shitstorm, as the publication of these photographs sparked outrage among many traditional leaders in the Eastern Cape.

https://www.dispatchlive.co.za/news/2014-01-11-outrage-over-graphic-circumcision-website/

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But Eastern Cape House of Traditional Leaders deputy chairman Prince Zolile Burns-Ncamashe said it was β€œdisgusting” that a foreign national could β€œundermine” the country's customs.

β€œIf I had the power I would send officials to arrest this doctor immediately,” Burns-Ncamashe said. :purerage: :purerage: :purerage: :purerage:

Nkululeko Nxesi of the Community Development Foundation of South Africa, an NGO that runs initiation rescue centres, said the website was an embarrassment to the AmaXhosa nation.

β€œThis will undermine the work that is being done by traditional leaders and government and us,” Nxesi said. β€œHe should respect the cultural principles and processes of this nation. This embarrassing thing he has done assumes that there is nothing being done to curb this.” :marseyraging: :marseyraging: :marseyraging: :marseyraging:

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SNEEDMAN:

I think from this context we can realize poor @sneedman 's autism regarding his 10 000 anti-circumcision posts.

It is very likely our boi was forced to attend a shitty and unpleasant Ulwaluko ceremony where he had to endure the godforsaken rite of having precious foreskin, without painkillers, removed why grinding his teeth :marseycringe: :marseycringe: :marseycringe:

:marseybottom: poor sneedman seems like a sensitive soul, as in his writings.

Alternatively it's my theory that the ceremonial surgeon cut off a piece of his :marseyblackcock: in a botched :guillotine: :guillotine: :guillotine: circumcision, and this has haunted him ever since.

Likely all the zulu girls and black chicks mock his prick because it is now 25% shorter due to the botched cutting, and reject his tiny Zulu peepee for being only 1 foot and 10 inches :marseydicklet: :marseydicklet: :marseydicklet: instead to the usual 2 feet and 30 inches BBC the usual Zulu has.

And now our poor :marseybeanpensive: :marseybeanpensive: :marseybeanpensive: Sneedman had one day cocked out on Benzos :marseypills: :marseypills: :marseypills: :marseybowl: and saw shitty BBC on TV (British Broadcasting Corporation), and saw Holly on one of those shitty daytime soapies,

and thought to himself in his endless inceldom blackpilling :marseypipe: "Maybe black chicks are hoooores, but white chicks with african @ssess may still give my 1 foot and 10 inches microdick a chance :marseylaying:

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Which is why he spams his posts as such!

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Imagine trying to poop after that

Just....come....out.....AAAHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!

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