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[πŸ€“πŸ”˜πŸ”˜πŸ”˜πŸ”˜] There is no such thing as "not ready for EA".

https://old.reddit.com/r/PaxDei/comments/1dfa3uj/there_is_no_such_thing_as_not_ready_for_ea/

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Player Expectations - Alpha Testing (Free/NDA) - core systems are not complete, test what is done so we can tweak things mid-dev.. also we want feedback on how we could dev thingsBeta Testing (closed)(Free/loose NDA) - core systems are mostly in place but we need to find bugs.. so many bugs.. also we want feedback on how we decided to dev things.Beta Testing (open)(Free/Pre-order/no NDA) - network stress test, random bugs we missed, system dev is mostly done for launch.Early Access (Paid/Pre-Ordered) - We dont have all the stuff we wanted for launch fully done like some end-game content or stretch system goals (new systems that aren't core AND/OR vertical dev of existing systems).. The game is mostly nearly all playable but we need a cash infusion to hit all those last launch checkboxes.Launch - Last bits were polished up, here's the official, now we start working on updates/expansions/next title. Dev Expectations - Alpha Testing > Early Access > 3 years later > Launch > LamboDev ex... (5)

BG3 was in EA for almost 3 years, worked out ok for that game. (-1)

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Maybe not so much β€œnot ready for EA” from a gameplay perspective (which is still completely debatable), but price for games going into EA is a different story. (2)

The price is a little steep, but it pays for your box price when it launches. So it's not like you're only paying for EA access and have to pay the box price again later. So whether you play now, or play in 1 year+ you'll have to fork up the $40 πŸ€·β€β™‚οΈ doing it now just lets you experience the development cycle. If that's not your cuppa tea, and only prefer to pay for finished products, then you can wait. All up to you really (-1)

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one game out of how many? Unicorns are not a basis for expectation. (1)

Unicorn? Yeah, that's what the AAA Devs want you to believe it is, "Don't judge us by that standard". BG3 is how it should be done, without having to cut corners just because the publishers want to hit deadlines. (0)

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Hi, you're incorrect. If a game hits EA in a state which players deem "unplayable" it's going to get flamed with down votes cause people don't fully understand the point of testing. PD is currently still in an alpha state imo with a lot of its systems unpolished, combat being a big one. I'm personally a bit nervous that the game is going to get hurt because of this. I have played so many early access games as well as closed alpha and beta tests and the amount of people who don't understand the purpose of these phases is vast and have hurt a lot of games. I'll be there for the EA test and give feedback, help find bugs and all that, but the people who don't buy an EA game with those intentions, the ones who for some reason want to give bad reviews to a game just cause they "cannot recommend it in its current state" are cancerous. (2)

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Player Expectations - Alpha Testing (Free/NDA) - core systems are not complete, test what is done so we can tweak things mid-dev.. also we want feedback on how we could dev thingsBeta Testing (closed)(Free/loose NDA) - core systems are mostly in place but we need to find bugs.. so many bugs.. also we want feedback on how we decided to dev things.Beta Testing (open)(Free/Pre-order/no NDA) - network stress test, random bugs we missed, system dev is mostly done for launch.Early Access (Paid/Pre-Ordered) - We dont have all the stuff we wanted for launch fully done like some end-game content or stretch system goals (new systems that aren't core AND/OR vertical dev of existing systems).. The game is mostly nearly all playable but we need a cash infusion to hit all those last launch checkboxes.Launch - Last bits were polished up, here's the official, now we start working on updates/expansions/next title. Dev Expectations - Alpha Testing > Early Access > 3 years later > Launch > LamboDev ex... (5)

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I really really miss the old way steam used to do it. The Green Light system was so much better. The games had to be vetted and meet several requirements before it was allowed to be green lit. But now people argue over what early access is, what the requirements should be, and games fail before they were even meant to be released. Furthermore, every day there are at least a hundred trash games that just appear out of nowhere with zero vetting... (3)

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>put pre-alpha game on Steam for $20

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BG3 was in EA for almost 3 years, worked out ok for that game.:

The price is a little steep, but it pays for your box price when it launches. So it's not like you're only paying for EA access and have to pay the box price again later. So whether you play now, or play in 1 year+ you'll have to fork up the $40 πŸ€·β€β™‚οΈ doing it now just lets you experience the development cycle. If that's not your cuppa tea, and only prefer to pay for finished products, then you can wait. All up to you really:

Unicorn? Yeah, that's what the AAA Devs want you to believe it is, "Don't judge us by that standard". BG3 is how it should be done, without having to cut corners just because the publishers want to hit deadlines.:

Hi, you're incorrect. If a game hits EA in a state which players deem "unplayable" it's going to get flamed with down votes cause people don't fully understand the point of testing. PD is currently still in an alpha state imo with a lot of its systems unpolished, combat being a big one. I'm personally a bit nervous that the game is going to get hurt because of this. I have played so many early access games as well as closed alpha and beta tests and the amount of people who don't understand the purpose of these phases is vast and have hurt a lot of games. I'll be there for the EA test and give feedback, help find bugs and all that, but the people who don't buy an EA game with those intentions, the ones who for some reason want to give bad reviews to a game just cause they "cannot recommend it in its current state" are cancerous.:

Player Expectations - Alpha Testing (Free/NDA) - core systems are not complete, test what is done so we can tweak things mid-dev.. also we want feedback on how we could dev thingsBeta Testing (closed)(Free/loose NDA) - core systems are mostly in place but we need to find bugs.. so many bugs.. also we want feedback on how we decided to dev things.Beta Testing (open)(Free/Pre-order/no NDA) - network stress test, random bugs we missed, system dev is mostly done for launch.Early Access (Paid/Pre-Ordered) - We dont have all the stuff we wanted for launch fully done like some end-game content or stretch system goals (new systems that aren't core AND/OR vertical dev of existing systems).. The game is mostly nearly all playable but we need a cash infusion to hit all those last launch checkboxes.Launch - Last bits were polished up, here's the official, now we start working on updates/expansions/next title. Dev Expectations - Alpha Testing > Early Access > 3 years later > Launch > LamboDev ex...:

I really really miss the old way steam used to do it. The Green Light system was so much better. The games had to be vetted and meet several requirements before it was allowed to be green lit. But now people argue over what early access is, what the requirements should be, and games fail before they were even meant to be released. Furthermore, every day there are at least a hundred trash games that just appear out of nowhere with zero vetting...:

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