In my first economics class when I was 16, my teacher tells the story of an economist on a ship that sinks. He is trapped on a deserted island with some other passengers and no food. Everyone cries out of desperation. Then they see a chest from the ship floating towards the island. They excitedly open it, and see metal cans of food. The passengers collapse in tears, the economist cheers in happiness. Economist: Why are crying, we have food. Passengers (screaming, crying): We don't have a can opener. Economist (elated): We can assume we have a can opener!
Contrast Shakespeare with 3 Printing Press and 3 Drama v Bach with 3 Operas. Analysis assumes:
No other leaders/wonders
Autonomous Territory comparative values (4S=5R=6F=7C)
Both are operational for 6 turns
Population: Shakespeare's 3 extra pop means 6CA, about 12 food and 1.5 happiness. Shakespeare provides an extra happiness. 12 food = 12*(7/6) = 14 “Culture” equivalent. Opera = Journ*lism = 2S 2C = 3C H -> 2S – C = H = 2 * 7/4 – 1 = 2.5C per turn. 0.5 H * 6 = 7.5 C. 3 extra pop = 14 + 7.5 = 21.5 C equivalent through games [Bach better] CA will be considered below.
Science: Shakespeare: 3PP = 3S per turn = 18S. PP is tech cost 3, Drama (with Shakespeare + PP) = 0, total = 3. Total through game = 15S. Opera (with Bach) is 5S, no science per turn. Difference = 15 – (-5) = 20S = 20 * 7/4 = 35 C equivalent throughout game. [Shakespeare Better]
Rocks: Shakespeare: 1st building is full price, rest are 2 rock discount (10 total). 3 * (3+4) – 10 = 11 rocks. Bach (before offset) = 3 * 8 = 24. Offset is worth a CA (considered below) and some rocks. More than zero, otherwise you wouldn't do it, less than full price (philosophy/religion have some value). I'm calling it 1. So 21 rocks. 21R-11R = 10R = 10*7/5 = 14C though game [Shakespeare better]
CA: Bach is better by 9CA through game. An AgeII CA is hard to put a value on, as the best yellows are taken for 2 or 3 CA. Let's say you can also get Reserves for 1CA, with 1CA to cash for 3 rocks. CA = 3/2 * (7/5) = 2.1 C. 9CA = 18.9 ~ 19C. [Bach Better]
Culture per turn: Shakespeare gets 6, Bach 5, so Shakespeare is better by 1 per turn or 6 total. [Shakespeare better]
Shakespeare is better by (35+14+6) – (21.5 + 18.9) = 55 - 40.4 = 14.6C equivalent through game.
Other considerations:
PP by itself is maybe the worst card in the deck, strictly worse than Alchemy (which isn't amazing either), but can be taken early for a little help since you need to pay full price for it even with Shakespeare. It especially helps for science when in despotism. [Shakespeare better]
Gutenberg is fantastic for a Shakespeare game. The first PP is no rush, so you can get a CA, culture and discounts each turn, milking him for all it's worth. Leonardo is also better. [Shakespeare better]
Shakespeare only works as a long-term leader. Bach can do a lot to pivot your civilization in just 3 turns. [Bach better]
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