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He did. He's repeatedly said that he wants to help us change, and tell gay people to repent. That's the first part of the paraphrase I did. The second part of the paraphrase is the title of the post. OP wants to tell queer people we shouldn't be queer, but he's crying foul when we tell him off. (52)
Ok but did they say it in THIS post? (-35)
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"I want to tell you how I feel about your personal life, but please don't tell me how that makes you feel".Peak victim mentality. If you can't handle being told how your actions affect others, leave others alone. (327)
Wow that's an impressive amount of putting words into someone else's mouth. You should contact the Guinness Book of World Records. The OP didn't say anything similar to that. (-46)
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You don't support it; and you don't have to let it bother you. It's not your life, is it? People can make their own choices. Did Jesus not say โWho among you can add even a second to your life by worrying?โ Look how much you're worrying, look how much you care. Why? Because the Jewish Laws in Leviticus, which Christians don't follow anymore, said that Jewish men shall not lie with another man? (74)
i'm trying to help them change (-43)
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THE BIBLE DOESN'T SAY XYZ, & IT WOULDN'T MUCH MATTER IF IT DID (by Rev. Durrell Watkins, Senior Minister, Sunshine Cathedral)I don't believe that homophobia is mandated in the Bible. Every verse used by homophobic religionists to condemn same-s*x attraction, love, or intimacy is actually part of a missive condemning exploitation or violence (although, to be honest, biblical condemnation of violence is inconsistent). And, verses taken alone without consideration of literary, cultural, historical, and linguistic contexts are often misused, misleading, and misunderstood. Love, mutual affection, genuine attraction, and covenantal fidelity are never condemned, and I wouldn't care if they were. The Bible isn't univocal, so I cringe every time I hear, "the Bible says..." The Bible doesn't say anything...whatever one quotes from scripture is from a writer with an agenda speaking to a particular community at a particular time in one of three ancient languages (and the original do... (1)
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"I want to tell you how I feel about your personal life, but please don't tell me how that makes you feel".Peak victim mentality. If you can't handle being told how your actions affect others, leave others alone. (327)
You and the atheist (I hope you come over to the table bro) have some of the most well informed comments. I think one of the gentleman removed his before I could post this, who is mainly the target of the post, sorry but we're in a discussion board and y'all floated the question/argument. Here goes:I would invite you and others in this thread to do more research into the Bible, The Word Of God. Cherry-picking phrases to suit your own predilections, comfort zone, mock superiority, and exclusionary (self-hating?? I'm no psychiatrist but the psychology community has an opinion on projection in hateful waysโฆThe 19 year old gay basher who killed the innocent 17-18 year old boy in a U.S. school last year for being gay, was found to have sent suggestive messages with no favorable reply to the innocent individual he murdered. Rejected much? Just take it in brother, let the Spirit show you what needs to be healed) ways is heresy. Yes, I said it. You saying that gays should be condemned is h... (2)
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Oh my god shut up. First of all, being gay is not a sin. Second of all, for argument's sake let's say it is. It's not but let's pretend. Ok it's a sin now. Why the frick is it the only sin y'all want to chit chat about? Gossip is sin. Adultery is sin? You ever been divorced? SIN! You ever lie? SIN. You cherry pick which sin is the worst and it's all you talk about, thus trying to make yourself a victim when really other people fall victim to your homophobia. I'm so done with this bullshit from judgmental people like you. (1)
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We got a twofer here !Christians !Catholics
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Do you have a response to the shellfish thing that isn't literally my position on homosexual members of the flock
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Yes, going back to St. Paul and Acts we find the early Church debating and defining which parts of the Mosaic Law apply to gentiles. They all land on the moral teachings holding true, but the ritual purity and sacrifice laws being abrogated through fulfillment in Christ. Paul's phrasing of "arsenokoites" literally means man-bedder and refers directly to the Leviticus passage about homosexuality. Jesus condemns "porneia" or sexual immorality, and takes the OT sexual restrictions and instead makes them stricter (no divorce, it's adultery if you even obsess about s*x rather than merely when you act on it, etc).
If instead you are doing the revisionist thing where you think it's only pederasty being condemned this is the Catholic response.
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The divorce thing was due to a direct command by Christ:
Essentially saying that God never intended to permit it, but the Israelites were too obstinate so Moses made a concession to them.
Also it serves to mention that divorce in pre-modern times was much more grave for the woman, in that she was married off at a very young age, financially and probably emotionally dependent on the man, and would be destitute if he left her.
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Other than quoting the line I did mention that. You and sidevoted me.
Divorce is still only beneficial to wealthy women and deadbeat men, nothing's really changed that way. Women entering the workplace at higher income levels (since it's a 1950s meme to imagine they weren't always working) and state welfare programs lessen the impact but living in where there's none of that, the point I always bring up in conversation is that 90% of the country can't afford to support two households. I guess the practical argument falls apart when dealing with childless couples but I still think marriage as an institution serves primarily to protect women/children.
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I'm sorry buddy, I thought I upmarseyd.
Yes, I suppose that now divorce can destroy two or more lives as opposed to just one. But yeah, the modern conceptualizaron serves to legitimize heirs and rights of the woman. Although that may not line up with current income trends.
Pre-Cana is a great resource for people looking to marry, taking a proactive approach seems to work best.
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