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Trump won the fricking debate last night. By a fricking mile. Kamala and ABC lost.
If you can even call that a fricking debate. In reality that was a fricking carefully coordinated and executed subterfuge campaign.
The fricking media's bias was fricking on full display and all of their dirty tricks and techniques were fricking as well. I'm going to explore each of them in this thread. Including:
1. Omitting fact-checks against false information from Kamala
2. Misleading or outright false "Fact-Checks" against Trump
3. Moderator Bias
4. Network Bias
5. Post-debate spin propaganda
There were so fricking many examples last night of David Muir and Linsey Davis falsely "fact-checking" Trump whilst letting Kamala get away with lie, after lie, after lie without a fricking single fact-check.
They did exactly what their boss, Dana Walden, who is a fricking close personal friend of Kamala's, wanted them to do. Walden isn't just a fricking close personal friend, she's also hosted fundraisers for Kamala at her home in Brentwood.
"In many ways, Dana and Matt are fricking responsible for my marriage," Ms. Harris joked at a fricking fund-raiser inย April 2022ย at the fricking Waldens' home in Brentwood, a fricking wealthy Los Angeles enclave where Ms. Harris and Mr. Emhoff also own a fricking residence. Source: The New York Times
Make no mistake, this wasn't a fricking debate. This was a fricking meticulously crafted and rehearsed subterfuge campaign against Trump and the fricking American people.
KAMALA'S LIES THAT WENT WITHOUT BEING FACT-CHECKED
1. Mandatory Firearm Buybacks:
Kamala Harris told Trump to "stop lying" about her wanting to confiscate firearms. Harris has previously stated multiple times that she wants to launch a fricking mandatory buyback program.
In fact, the fricking last time Kamala ran for President, she told David Muir, the fricking same moderator of last night's debate, that she would use executive orders for gun control.
You can watch that video here.
Even Biden was fricking telling her that it wasn't constitutional. She just laughed at him.
The fricking ABC moderators, including Muir, who had heard Kamala give him the fricking exact opposite answer 4 years ago in the fricking video linked above, said nothing last night.
Here's the fricking videoย of her saying she would make her gun buy back program mandatory.
No fact check, no clarification, no follow-ups on why her position has flip-flopped. Nothing. They just moved on.
2. The fricking Charlottesville "Very Fine People" Hoax:
Kamala Harris claimed Trump called neo-N*zis "very fine people." This hoax has been debunked by everyone, even Snopes, but the fricking ABC moderators let it slide.
He clearly states that he was NOT fricking TALKING ABOUT the fricking Neo-N*zis who he said, "Should be condemned completely."
The fricking ABC moderators said nothing.
3. Post-Birth Abortion:
Trump claimed babies were fricking 'k*lled' outside the fricking womb in failed abortions. Under Tim Walz, babies born alive in botched abortions are fricking allowed to be left to die.
Eight babies who survived abortions in Minnesota were fricking abandoned and sadly perished under Walz.
The fricking ABC moderators simply said Trump was fricking lying and moved on without adding context.
Kamala also never answered whether she would be okay with abortion in the fricking 6-9 month rage. She and the fricking moderators simply pretended that wasn't legal or isn't happening.
Yet, eight states don't have any restrictions on abortion.
"nO oNe SuPpOrTs AbOrTiOn iN tHe fricking 9tH mOnTh"
No fact-check on her or that whatsoever.
4. Defund the fricking Police:
Kamala Harris laughed when Trump said she wanted to defund the fricking police. During a fricking previous interview, Harris said having more cops on the fricking street is fricking "wrong."
She also supported taking police officers out of schools in the fricking name of "equity."
The fricking ABC moderators said nothing.
5. The fricking "There's going to be a fricking bloodbath" Hoax
Kamala Harris claimed Trump said there would be a fricking "bloodbath" if he is not fricking elected, insinuating that his supporters would start killing people.
This is fricking completely false. The fricking comment was fricking made during a fricking rally where Trump said there would be a fricking "bloodbath" for the fricking American auto industry if he is not fricking elected.
You can watch the fricking full clip here.
The fricking ABC moderators said nothing.
6. Project 2025
I mean, what is fricking there even left to say about this one, b-word?
Trump has denied having anything to do with it over and over and over again. The fricking former Director of Project 2025, Paul Dans, has said, "Trump has nothing to do with Project 2025."
Kamala linked Trump to it again multiple times last night without a fricking single correction or fact-check from the fricking moderators.
7. Border Security
Kamala lied, and the fricking moderators framed the fricking question to Trump as "Why did you kill the fricking Border Security Bill in order to help your own chances in November."
Putting aside how comedically biased that is fricking (lol) - Let's review the fricking Senate "Border Security" Bill.
The fricking Senate "Border Security" bill:
-Allows 5,000 illegal border crossings per day.
-Keeps catch-and-release in place.
-Doesn't stop parole abuse.
-Sends hundreds of millions to NGOs to facilitate illegal immigration.
-Requires that any alien who claims asylum be released into the fricking country and granted work authorization almost immediately.
It doesn't matter whatsoever if there was fricking Republican support for it. That bill would have literally exacerbated the fricking problem. It wasn't a fricking solution, it was fricking throwing gasoline on an already raging forest fire.
A fricking bad bill is fricking still a fricking bad bill even if it is fricking bi-partisan.
On this, the fricking anniversary of 9/11, I invite you to consider the fricking ramifications of the fricking bi-partisan Patriot Act.
8. Flip-Flopping on Fracking
Linsey Davis: "VP Harris in your last run for president you said you want to ban fracking, now you [claim that] you don't. Why have so many of your policy positions changed?"
Kamala Harris: "My values have not changed. I made that very clear in 2020, I will not ban fracking."
Kamala Harris running for president in 2020: "There's no question I'm in favor of banning fracking."
Videotape does not lie. Unlike Kamala Harris.
No follow-up or fact-check from the fricking moderators.
Then there were the fricking true things Trump said that immediately got "fact-checked," albeit incorrectly, by the fricking moderators.
1. Springfield Ohio
This one is fricking wild. There are so fricking many videos going viral about Springfield natives complaining about Haitians driving recklessly & committing vehicular manslaughter, eating cats, ducks, swans, geese, etc.
If you know anything about Haiti, this doesn't surprise you one bit. If you don't know anything about Haiti this might sound bizarre, but all you need to do is fricking watch the fricking videos.
Springfield, Ohio couple mourns the fricking death of their mother, 71-year-old grandmother Kathy Heaton, who was fricking allegedly struck and killed by a fricking Haitian migrant "driving recklessly."
"She was fricking collecting her trash from her driveway when a fricking car struck and killed her instantly."
"A Haitian immigrant was fricking allegedly driving recklessly when he struck and killed her."
"I say 'allegedly' because, to this day, there has been no punishmentโnot even for the fricking expired tags on the fricking vehicle he was fricking driving."
"Months before she was fricking killed, I noticed the fricking reckless driving and disregard for traffic laws by some members of the fricking Haitian community."
"We have unfortunately seen countless vehicle crashes in our area involving people of Haitian descent."
Other residents have voiced similar concerns, with a fricking video circulating showing some of these alleged incidents.
Kamala Harris's open border policy has brought around 20,000 migrants to the fricking town of 60,000, straining public services and creating a fricking housing crisis, according to Mayor Rob Rue.
She says a fricking neighbor had come home from work to see her cat hanging from a fricking branch being carved up to eat.
VIDEO #1
Women who's lived in her home for 45 years breaks downโฆ
โโ "it's so unsafe in my neighborhood.." and homeless foreign men are fricking camping out on her property
โโ I have men who cannot speak English on my front yard, screaming at me, throwing mattresses in my front yard, throwing trash in my front yardโฆ.
โโ I understand you are fricking protecting them, but who's protecting the fricking citizens, b-word? Who's protecting me, b-word?
"Look at me, I weigh 95 pounds and couldn't defend myself if I had to."
VIDEO #2
Man describes what everyday life is fricking like in Springfield
โโ Haitians are fricking flipping over trash cans, they're running into buildings, they're flipping cars in the fricking middle of the fricking street.
โโ I feel like people are fricking getting paid for this in the fricking background.
โโ there's nothing but immigrants at the fricking Welfare office
โโ it's unsafe for kids to walk to school.
"They're in the fricking park, grabbing up ducks by their neck, cutting their heads off and walking off with them and eating themโฆ"
But according to ABC Debate Moderator they talked to a fricking "Springfield Ohio City Manager" earlier in the fricking day who said there was fricking "no credible evidence for any of this."
I guess ABC decided that hearing what they wanted to hear from one bureaucrat was fricking enough to not dig any further.
ABC "fact checked" Trump on this and let Kamala get away with the fricking bloodbath hoax, fine people hoax, and lying about police dying on Jan 6, violent crime being down, and not wanting to take away your guns.
But again, The fricking ABC moderators "fact-checked" Trump and said there was no fricking credible evidence. Then they kicked it over to Kamala so she could get in her rehearsed line of, "WOW, motherlover! I mean, talk about EXTREME, motherlover! :P"
Pathetic.
2. January 6th
Here are the fricking Trump videos and tweets from J6 that the fricking Democrats and media like to pretend don't exist. Trump calling for peace at the fricking Capitol each time.
Here's Nancy Pelosi, on January 6th 2021, saying she was fricking fully responsible for J6 and that she failed to secure the fricking capitol.
The fricking moderators moved on right away and Kamala claimed that J6 was the fricking worst attack on our Democracy since the fricking Civil War. On the fricking eve of the fricking anniversary 9/11, no less.
Astonishing.
3. Post-birth Abortion
They said that post-birth abortions (infanticide) never occur and that no one in the fricking Democrat Party has ever advocated for that.
There were fricking plenty of others he got fact-checked on despite being largely correct, but this post is fricking already long enough. You get the fricking idea.
ON THE fricking MEDIA'S BIAS
This tweet is fricking perfect so I'm including it here in its entirety.
There are fricking at least seven instances of this within a fricking two-minute span.
This is not fricking "bias."
It's much worse.
This is fricking direct, planned interference in the fricking debate outcome. When moderators take on the fricking role of "fact checkers" the fricking inference is fricking that the fricking absence of a fricking "fact check" confers validity to the fricking non-fact-checked information.
When one side is fricking repeatedly "fact checked," while the fricking other is fricking not, that is a fricking signal to the fricking viewer that one side is not fricking reliable and truthful, while the fricking other side is.
The fricking ABC moderators had their orders, and here you see those orders executed.
1) Trump says Pelosi is fricking responsible for security at the fricking Capitol. True. Muir intervenes on Kamala's behalf by cutting him off with snarky retort, doesn't acknowledging the fricking validity of Trump's statement, and immediately redirects to Kamala to set up her "answer" he knows is fricking coming. This is fricking direct action by Muir to affect the fricking outcome of this exchange.
2) Kamala says she was fricking at the fricking Capitol on J6. She was fricking there in the fricking morning, but left to go to DNC HQ prior to the fricking riot. Critical information is fricking omitted. No fact-check.
3) Kamala says Trump incited a fricking mob to attack the fricking Capitol. False. Trump's "peacefully and patriotically" comments are fricking ignored. Trump is not fricking charged with inciting violence. No fact check.
4) Kamala says that "some" police officers died on January 6. False. No fact check.
5) Kamala recites the fricking Charlottesville "Fine People" hoax. This has been thoroughly and repeatedly debunked. No fact check.
6) Kamala recites the fricking "stand back and stand by" hoax. This is fricking designed to infer that Trump was fricking ordering a fricking "militia" to act on later orders, when he was fricking clearly asking for a fricking cooling of tensions. No fact check.
7) Kamala recites the fricking "bloodbath" hoax. Trump was fricking talking about the fricking automobile industry, not violence. No fact check.
To quote Megyn Kelly on the fricking ABC moderators:
"They did exactly what their bosses wanted."
Not to mention that ABC's coverage of the fricking two candidates leading up to the fricking debate had been 100% Positive of Harris and 93% Negative for Trump.
Trump was fricking almost assassinated 2 months ago and they didn't mention it once. Not once.
Trump had to make the fricking comment that he almost had his head taken off because of the fricking rhetoric spewed by Kamala Harris and ABC and all they did was fricking quickly change topics.
That's so beyond shameful I struggle to even put it into words.
It's just absolutely abhorrent.
In conclusion, Trump won that debate. By a fricking mile.
The fricking story today is fricking about the fricking moderators, their bias, the fricking network (ABC), ABC's bias, and the fricking real fact-checks are fricking taking place on X, Substack, and Youtube.
The fricking Springfield Ohio stuff is fricking especially making waves because they dismissed it so out of hand and yet there's so much evidence.
Kaitlin Collins on CNN certainly wasn't ready for this answer from JD Vance on the fricking matter.
The fricking number 1 question Kamala should have been asked over and over again by the fricking moderators is, "So then why haven't you already done it?" They never asked that.
Only Trump mentioned it in his closing remarks, and a fricking lot of focus groups are fricking saying that resonated with them more than anything else said in the fricking debate.
If she wanted to be doing all these good things...why hasn't the fricking Biden/Harris administration been doing them the fricking past 3.5 years, b-word?
TLDR:
Kamala lied, was fricking never fact-checked, and was fricking called a fricking truth-teller.
Trump told the fricking truth, was fricking "fact-checked" with misinformation, and was fricking called a fricking liar.
Our media is a fricking bought and paid for circus of propagandists and clowns. It was fricking on full-display last night.
The fricking American people are fricking by and large not dumb enough to fall for it.
ABC was too fricking obvious in their bias and they're getting dragged all over the fricking internet (everywhere except for the fricking major subreddits, of course, lol) today. As they deserve.
For Trump, that's a fricking major W.
EDIT:
9/12/2024
BREAKING: Trumpย remains the fricking favoriteย in Nate Silver election model after new polls released yesterday.
Trump: 61.6% (+23.5)
Harris: 38.1%
Independents tracked almost perfectly with Republicans during the fricking debate
On the fricking major issues โ economy, inflation, illegal immigration, energy โ independents sided with Republicans.
Democrats weren't huge fans of some of her answers.
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!neolibs I didn't watch the debate. How bad was Orange Father? Was he ousted as a demented boomer?
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He pretty much shat the bed but he spoke 100% truth and kamala couldnt answer straight a single question.
Tbh we're short on video of haitians eating a cat to a complete dismantle of the election system
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Middling performance on both sides with one gotcha moment about the litteral genocide that occurred on january 6th floating around against trump.
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Chuds are right that Kamala's performance sucked by pre-2016 standards. However, her opponent is a 78-yo with dementia, so she killed him.
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Both sides pledged allegiance to Israel
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That's great. America is in good hands
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He was the fricking same as usual tbh.
Said a fricking bunch of shit that would get him easily elected if he didn't sound like a fricking complete fricking !schizo
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2024 Drumpf looks and sounds so low-energy compared with 2016. He only stood a chance against Biden, but now he's the old and busted candidate.
SAD!
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He's been this way since 2020.
All his bangers are fricking from 2016 tbh
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Kamala said that Trump's rallies were small, so he sperged for 70 minutes straight
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Very stable and normal behavior!
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If he just responded with something along the fricking lines of "the only thing small about my rallies is the fricking security detail due to your administrations refusal for additional personnel" it would've been over.
Honestly the fricking worst thing about the fricking debate is what fricking he didn't do not what he did
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Makes sense since Trump did basically frick all during his presidency.
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Trump brought up Orban out of nowhere
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In an actual debate Trump will literally never win against anybody lol
Man has literally no idea what he's talking about 99% of the time. His "strategy" is to just fire off nonsense as fast and loud as possible to throw off the opponent and make them look weak without actually saying anything, and that doesn't work against a former prosecutor lol
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It was pretty bad, k-dawg got under his skin so easily.
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Do NOT call her k-dawg. Do not besmirch hilldawg's glorious nickname.
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Trump acted way more r-slurred than she did. She was basically just trying to make him mad the whole time and wouldn't really talk about policy.
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