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the "female male feminists" category on wikipedia includes a trans woman

so i was doing some research :marseyreading:, and i found out that the category "female male feminists" on wikipedia contains a trans woman :marseypass:

Amber McLaughlin (January 13, 1973 – January 3, 2023) was an American transgender woman executed in Missouri for the 2003 r*pe and murder of her ex-girlfriend, Beverly Guenther. At the time of the crime, McLaughlin was living as male; she transitioned from male to female while incarcerated.McLaughlin became the first openly transgender person to be executed in the United States. Her legal name remained her birth name, Scott A. McLaughlin, and she was identified as such in her death warrant and in prison records.

Categories: ... American female murderers...Executed American women...Female male feminists

this suggests that someone moved this person from the category of "american male murderers" to "american female murderers"

theres some light sneed on the talk page

Isn't it kind of revolting to call this male feminist and murderer a woman when he's a man?

Read MOS:GENDERID. :marseyjanny2:

MOS:GENDERID doesn't actually apply here, since MOS:GENDERID quite explicitly restricts its scope to living people, which McLaughlin obviously isn't – and a 2021 RFC to extend its scope to include the non-living failed to reach a consensus. That said, I think there is a broader point here, about whether MOS:GENDERID should actually apply to people whose sole notability is due to their commission of heinous crimes (and/or the ensuing investigation/trial/conviction/appeals/punishment), so I've opened a discussion on that topic. :marseyakshually:

Actually, while restrictions against including deadnames are specific to living people, other provisions - like which pronouns to use and which gender identity to reflect in articles - are not. So it is still true that MOS:GENDERID does mandate female pronouns in this article, even though it doesn't prevent the mention of the subject's former name

lmao, wikipedia is a joke

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Literally everything, From the tiniest to the largest things, @N insanely excels. I mean, she is the kind of person who could walk into a room full of people who had done something as a career their entire lives, never having done it before, and blow them away with just a casual attempt. She's creative, ultra intelligent, super brilliant, seems to know almost everything, and is always in the right place at the right time. Just one of those kinds of people. I know a ton of people like that, who are perfect in almost every way, and I've always been really jealous of them because I'm just not like that, try as I might to become that way, it's just not going to happen because I didn't get those genes.

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