R-slur doesn't realize 2nd Amendment didn't exist in the first version of the Constitution, and was AMENDED 16 years after the fact

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The articles of confederation were written in 1776, adopted in 1777, but it wasn't ratified and implemented until 1781.

The current constitution was written in 1787, adopted in 1788, and implemented in 1789 along with the first ten amendments/"The Bill of Rights".

However, the Bill of Rights only applied to the federal government. State and local governments were free to restrict speech, ban firearms, or deny you a trial jury until liberal SCOTUS Justices came up with Incorporation Doctrine by interpreting the Due Process Clause of the 14th Amendment, yet the process of incorporation was selective, starting with the free speech portion of the 1st Amendment in Gitlow v. New York in 1925.

The 2nd Amendment wasn't incorporated to apply to state and local governments to institute and individual right to keep and bear arms until McDonald v. Chicago in 2010. Before then, cities banned individuals from possessing guns all throughout our nation's history.

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...unconstitutionally

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You think that incorporation was unconstitutional? I think incorporation is broadly popular these days, but it's fricked up that the SCOTUS unilaterally decided to apply the Bill of Rights to the states instead of Congress drafting an amendment to do it as the authors of the first 10 Amendments and the 14th Amendment would have liked to do, yet were unable to do.

James Madison initially wanted the Bill of Rights to apply to the states (as he was initially a Federalist), but was unable to make that happen and later changed his mind, joining the Republican faction, believing that the States should have the right to govern themselves and decide which rights they would guarantee their citizens (which is why most states have a Bill of Rights based off of the federal Bill of Rights).

Yet again, the authors of the 14th Amendment wanted to incorporate the Bill of Rights. Yet, even after the Civil War, "States' Rights" sentiment was strong enough to prevent such language from being included in the 14th Amendment.

But then 60 years later, the SCOTUS just decided that they get to make the rules and the original meaning of the Constitution doesn't matter :gigachad:

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Brother, I responded to the last sentence of your comment using logic based on the rest of it. If something was unconstitutional in 2010, it was unconstitutional in 1775. Think about it.

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There was no Constitution in 1775 (Britain still doesn't have a formal Constitution).

The current Constitution and the Bill of Rights were implemented in 1789. There have been 17 Amendments since then.

The 14th Amendment was used as the justification for individual firearm ownership.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incorporation_of_the_Bill_of_Rights

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>Britain still doesn't have a formal Constitution

Why does it have to be written down in one place?

Bongs have a constitution, its just scattered across like 20 different sources, and also its r-slurred

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individuals had firearms long before the 14th amendment, the 14th amendment just strwngthened their rights. Youre being spurious.

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The second amendment is interesting because incorporation completely reversed its meaning. Originally it just meant that the states and not the federal government should be in charge of military matters, now it means states have no say.

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The right to bear arms comes from English law and existed in Massachusetts likewise, and was codified in many state constitutions before the federal bill of rights. Consider the battles of Lexington and Concord, fought to prevent confiscation of the arms of the militia, which were in 1775.

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Yes. It was considered a states' Rights issue until Incorporation. Most states included the right to bear in their Bill of Rights, but it was up to the individual states to be the primary guarantor of rights and they were able to decide what those rights were.

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:#marseyhesright:

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The interesting thing about individual state constitutions is how little they matter. State governments don't even pay lip service to them like the federal government does to the Constitution, and just get away with it because all the money is tied up fighting federal infringements.

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