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I think immigration needs to be balanced. Our levels are very high for the size of our population and India is by far the largest source. I think those things need to change, we need a course correction with lower numbers and more balance from different places.
Yes that is the problem. One country India has scammed, schemed, and loop holed the system and made businesses doing so. This is the issue and sad to see the division it's causing.
Not only that, but India as a country has actively murdered Canadian citizens and conducted espionage on Canadian soil. I agree with you completely.
The individuals coming here have nothing to do with that though, they're just trying to do what's best for themselves and their families.
Tbh, we should ban all immigration from India unless its a high skilled worker. We don't need low skill/full-time Tim hortons or Mcdonalds workers that barely speak a lick of English.
"Everyone should be wealthy!"
What a grand idea.
Unfortunately, realty is we don't have the productivity for that. So where do you propose we cut? If wages fly like that, what do we do about the inflation? How do we mandate those wages without sinking the entire economy?
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I grew up in Quebec, Anglophone, I've seen what it takes to preserve a culture. Decisive, sometimes (what seems)radical action. Was I treated equally as an anglophone in Quebec? Definitely not. Was I eventually forced to leave or bear it? I'm in Ontario as a result. But ya know what? I'm Ok. In fact I'm likely where I should be. I can speak my language, and go about my business. Do I miss the Quebec culture, sure! Do I appreciate the culture where I ended up? Yes again. And you know what, I'm glad Quebec is willing to fight to preserve its culture - so why don't we do this on the federal level?
What did Justin Trudeau once call us? The first post-national state???
Unfortunately we may already be at the point of no return.
I don't see how it's racist. It doesn't matter where one comes from or what they look like, there is still no room currently and we are way over capacity.
That's a numbers thing, not a race thing.
India is one of the most dangerous places for women and we are just smiling and importing them at breakneck speed.
Canada is being invaded and no one is fighting back.
Don't forget the majority of United States Reddit leans Democrat, and US Democrats strongly opposite any negative views of immigration by nearly any margin. Not demeaning them, just being honest and accurate.
Don't forget you're in that echo chamber instead of the anti-immigration
To be fair with you, I'm a left-leaning US Citizen and I agree - specifically on Indians. I'm seeing low-income migrant Indians coming into low-income US areas and dominating culture by only interacting with fellow Indians - the opposite of what Immigration should be. We aren't opening our doors to sell you land, we're opening our doors to invite you into our culture.
I'm also witnessing high-income indians migrate and dominate high-level business - destroying the ability for native-born citizens to do so as well.
But if I speak this to fellow left-leaners, I'm a "conservative cuck".
Intent matters. If it were a million European migrants instead of a million Indian migrants and there wasn't an outcry from the same person over both, despite this migration also affecting jobs, housing, and altering Canadian culture (which is separate and apart from Old World cultures like European or Indian ones), then it would be racist.
It's worth spending the time to make sure.
European cultures are much more compatible with our culture than Indian cultures are.
It's not specifically racist to oppose mass immigration but all of racists oppose immigration.
As an avid racist I have to tell you that isn't true. Racism comes in lots of forms and the racist community is all over the place in terms of politics
Sure. I agree but my concern is that how much of this immigration crisis is manufactured by social media, mass media and opportunistic politicians. Having grown up in the 70s and seeing first hand many of my immigrant friends become suvcessful and productive I dont want government immigration policy to be decimated due to politics. We need immigration in this country to ensure that our economy does not suffer in the future due to an aging population.
As an American opposed to Trump and similar rhetoric, this is very concerning. [-3]
This is an example of racism lol. [-5]
Let's ask what the natives think about this. Canada is not eruope. You can always go back to Europe.
In regards to assimilation, all initial immigrants regardless of race, have a hard time assimilating. However, their kids always do.
You need to go outside and touch grass, though. [-5]
Then apply that to everyone equally. Not just india.
By singling out India specifically, you are in fact being racist. Because if you want to make this about cultural compatibility, who gets to define what's compatible.
Because my values as a Canadian are not in line with the deeply ideological and borderline white supremacist views of the significant potion of UCP voters in Alberta, and we know how they feel about compatibility of cultures. [-9]
No it's racist to make the points you're making. There is not universal culture. Culture is much more personal and is used as a dog whistle like you to mask your racism.
In what ways is Indias culture going to dominate (another dog whistle) since even with Indian immigration Canada keeps increasing human development and freedom: https://ourworldindata.org/human-development-index Our culture, values and human rights keep progressing weird isn't it. It's like values are more related to economic prosperity than skin color or country origin.
We have a right to our own nation as a nation of people who want to work and live without racism.
Mr. Beat made a good video on it.
But the jist is that most people on the planet share values. Not to mention the people who come here are self selected for people who bias educated and those who like Canada.
You're dog whistling that this country should be white the same way our ancestors didn't want Irish or Italians.
I bet you can't even define mass immigration or Canadian culture. Which is why I think you're a racist rather than someone actually engaged on the topic.
There's room to talk about TFWs, diploma mills, birth vacations and other inefficient immigration policies without using the culture argument, because it doesn't exist. [-6]
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Immigration should basically be banned, even high skilled workers, since they literally just steal those jobs and decrease wages
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the immigration system is carefully planned around jobs with shortages
try immigrating to the US as a social worker
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just say youre gay and theyll kill you where youre from for being a gay and theyll grant you refugee status
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if a job has a shortage it's because it doesn't fit market conditions and should adjust accordingly
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The problem is that immigration is often used to spackle in employment gaps that are completely manufactured.
"Oh boy, we just couldn't find ANYONE for our front end developer position for $20,000 ! Guess we have no choice but to pursue infinity immigration."
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even if you get a good paying IT job it's usually just "Indian Wrangler" on the backend because you're too expensive per hour to have doing coding work.
This can actually be beneficial though because you can get a lead or architect title pretty much immediately if you want
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H1B mills are mostly doing shit tier work for government or awful corporate gigs anyway
They could definitely do a better job tho
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Also as if those noggers don't start rubberstamping h1b sponsorships for their shitholes as soon as they can
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You're right and wrong at the same time. It's not carefully planned, or working as promised, but it is working as intended.
Democracy is the art and science of running the circus from the monkey cage.
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!engineering -misia.
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it was simply "advanced negotiation" and they picked right
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Von Braun and Enrico Fermi stole those jobs from an American
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We should allow deportation of high skilled workers because they find ways to make jobs easier and therefore kill jobs
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But how are we !macacos and !latinx going to enrich your culture then?
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You already dominate the trans side of Chaturbate and Xhamster.
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WTF is up with that @BWC? Explain the Brazilian phenomenon
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with packed burrito imports
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if you lose your techcel job to an indian for the same pay you deserve to be homeless
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doesn't matter if you "lose your job", that's not who matters
what matters is people trying to enter the workforce, with no experience, who now have to compete to an indian with a "degree" from some mill, and the person in charge of hiring is some chick with a racial studies degree
guess what, now you let a bunch of Indians in since "well you're a tard if you lose your job " ,you have an entire population of youth unable to get a job since they all got taken by "qualified" foreigners, give it 10 years now jobs are rare, mostly taken by now entrenched Indians who meet any experience qualification that nobody from that youth can ever meet.
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See above
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Actually they alone are the only solution to the fallen birth rates. You will have your country women be bred by foreign moids, and you will like it. What was that? If we have to immigrate foreigners for the sake of our birth rates why don't we immigrate foreign women instead of emphasizing excessively immigrating foreign moids instead for the sake of diminishing the fear of potential r*pe/violence from cultures of higher r*pe/violence, children having paternally citizen genes instead of paternal foreign genes? Blasphemy. Why do you want to put immigrants in camps? Literal nazi over here.
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I'd single-handedly impregnate all those women if we imported them
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That's the spirit
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Godspeed
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And foreign businesses should be forcefully removed since idc about some random jap gay camera company
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ultra-nationalism gang
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