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/r/medicine does a little nooticing :marseynoooticer: about the train question

https://old.reddit.com/r/medicine/comments/1icip3e/executive_order_protecting_children_from_chemical/ 

								

								

									
									
Most of the comments are typical reddit (WHAT ABOUT INTERSEX PEOPLE HUH? HUH? HUH?) but there's one thread of sanity that surprisingly has upkongs.
https://old.reddit.com/r/medicine/comments/1icip3e/executive_order_protecting_children_from_chemical/m9rm976/?context=8
One person even dares to say the thing you're not supposed to nootice out loud:
https://old.reddit.com/r/medicine/comments/1icip3e/executive_order_protecting_children_from_chemical/m9s5q6m/?context=8
Note the number of trans healthcare professionals in the comments here. I believe they are likely overrepresented in this thread in comparison to real life.
:#marseyhesright:
Go through the thread and you'll see loads of comments starting with "trans ___________ here" :hehecat:


									
								

							

							

								
									
								
							

							

								
	

							

						

						
						

							

								
							

						

					

					
						

							
							
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fast track =/= unsafe
show me where it was somehow worse or less rigorous than the annual trivalent flu vaccine (thats 3 different antigens btw sweaty, meaning three times the risk than the covid vax with 1 puny antigen :marseycry: )

						


						
							

							

								
									
								
							


							

								
	

							


							

								

									

										
										

									


								
						

					
				


				

				
					
	

	
		

			
		


		

			

				
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I don't care about your whataboutism so no I'm not going to look into your flu shit, if you want to argue that flu vaccines are even more dangerous than the rushed COVID vaccines then you can go ahead and produce that data on your own
My argument is that the COVID vaccines were rushed
The FDA's decisions to authorize COVID vaccines were carefully worded to reflect uncertainties: "it is reasonable to believe" that the vaccine "may be effective."8 Although the efficacy data for all three vaccines were more impressive than the 50% efficacy EUA guidelines required, the FDA acknowledged that lack of data on asymptomatic patients and short follow-up meant that it was not possible to determine if the vaccines prevent asymptomatic COVID-19, or how long immunity lasted. It stated that two-month median follow-up was insufficient to answer key public health questions: how long these vaccines prevent moderate and severe COVID for which patients, and if and when booster shots are needed. Although FDA advisors urged longer follow-up, the vaccine companies did not agree. Pfizer announced on their vaccine Web site that study participants have the option of being unblinded and vaccinated in March 2021; Janssen and Moderna made similar public statements.
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC8101583/

						


						
							

							

								
									
								
							


							

								
	

							


							

								

									

										
										

									


								
						

					
				


				

				
					
	

	
		

			
		


		

			

				
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It stated that two-month median follow-up was insufficient to answer key public health questions: how long these vaccines prevent moderate and severe COVID for which patients, and if and when booster shots are needed.
No shit sherlock, but this literally supports my point. Had they waited for long term data it would have arbitrability taken longer to confirm the waning immunity as the longevity of protection was still obscured.
Do you think we should have somehow waited to see how quickly the covid vaccines began to wane in order to determine how soon you needed a booster? lol

						


						
							

							

								
									
								
							


							

								
	

							


							

								

									

										
										

									


								
						

					
				


				

				
					
	

	
		

			
		


		

			

				
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Had they waited for long term data it would have arbitrability taken longer to confirm the waning immunity as the longevity of protection was still obscured.
And you don't think that data would have been valuable when deciding whether the rollout was worth the risk?

						


						
							

							

								
									
								
							


							

								
	

							


							

								

									

										
										

									


								
						

					
				


				

				
					
	

	
		

			
		


		

			

				
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And you don't think that data would have been valuable when deciding whether the rollout was worth the risk? :marseygigaretard:
:marseyconfused: Irrelevant. The risk of delay in all scenarios dwarfed the risk of the vax being ineffective

						


						
							

							

								
									
								
							


							

								
	

							


							

								

									

										
										

									


								
						

					
				


				

				
					
	

	
		

			
		


		

			

				
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