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Girlboss Sinema has likely ruined her political career

https://apnews.com/article/voting-rights-kyrsten-sinema-phoenix-arizona-voting-af9409b7dbab996a1a8df329c053fce0

Anyway, I posted this because multiple rightoids tried to argue with me and claim I was wrong and Sinema was totally fine and popular among Arizona dems.

I claimed Sinema was in a lot of danger, because she isn;t Joe Manchin. The DNC is gaining ground in arizona and can't ignore the left-wing activist bloc or they risk sinking turnout in the state.

Surprise surprise, this is the exact reasoning the state party is now rejecting Sinema:

But she faces political dynamics unlike the other Senate moderate thwarting Democratic ambitions, Joe Manchin of West Virginia. Representing a state that former President Donald Trump carried by nearly 39 percentage points in 2020, Manchin is unlikely to face a progressive challenger who would gain traction.

In Arizona, however, Democrats are ascendant. Joe Biden was the first Democratic presidential candidate to carry the state since 1996, and the party is eager to build on that success. That makes it harder for a Democrat to simply ignore the left here, particularly in a primary election.

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Not voting to overhaul a tradition in the senate so you can ram through a bill earns you censure now? Man dems are more r-slurred than i thought

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Something has to be done, Republicans have become openly hostile to elections.

Republicans won't even accept losing in +25d states, they're just producing election fraud conspiracies at an unprecedented rate.

It's hard to argue this isn't them laying the groundwork to use state power to steal national elections. 2020 was a trial run. They identified every point from which they failed and have been passing laws erasing those points since the election ended.

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Republicans have become openly hostile to elections.

:#marseyspecialpat:

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How in the actual frick are they not hostile to elections?

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You find that hard to believe?

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I have a lot of thoughts on the subject but Pizza finds a way to paint issues like this in the most inflammatory light possible.

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I'm not going to tone down reality to make basic facts seem more palatable. They are absolutely hostile to elections at this point.

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Bro, you're replying to a day-old comment. I already shared my thoughts with you. At this point, I will just say that painting "the other side" in the most dramatically worst light possible does your own judgement no justice.

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No, this is literally the fallacy of centrism and American moderate delusion. Because normal people can't possibly believe the GOP really is this bad they think basic facts about reality are just actually partisan.

You see something similar when it comes to Republican voters and policy:

https://dataforprogress.org/blog/2020/12/30/republicans-dont-know-anything-about-their-party

The political scientist E. E. Schattschneider argued that β€œdemocracy is unthinkable save in terms of the parties.” For Schattschneider, parties solved an information problem that arises with advanced (post-)industrial society. Put simply, the kinds and quantity of policies that arise are of such complexity and scale that no one person could ever hope to know enough to make an informed voting decision. The parties then are to work as heuristics. With their platforms they work to simplify the great issues of the day. But if this metric by which we are to judge their relative success, they have evidently failed.

In 1950, a committee Schattschneider chaired released a report called β€œTowards a More Responsible Two-Party System.” The report advocated for, in brief, more ideologically distinct parties which would offer voters a clear choice. Recent trends in partisan polarization have caused voters to question this conclusion. But these findings suggest that despite the ideological drift of the parties in Congress, voters don’t always see the choices they have as being distinct on issues where the parties are in fact quite different.

As for why Republicans voters in particular don't see a difference between the two major parties, there are many causes. Motivated reasoning likely plays a large role. If a Republican voter doesn’t think mining companies should dump debris into a stream, why would they think their elected representative would support this policy?

This is a long-running trend, of voters, especially Republican voters, denying the extremism of the positions that the party holds on questions of political economy. Matthew Yglesias, formerly of Vox, terms this phenomenon β€œthe politics of incredulity.” For him, such voters are a major reason why these conditions persist. He argues β€œvoters find [the Republican Party’s position on economic issues] so outlandishly bad that they’ll only believe someone espouses them if you can convince them first that the person in question is a heartless monster.” For Republican voters in particular, Yglesias adds: β€œConsequently, people who align with Republicans on broad values themes β€” whether opposition to abortion rights, love of guns, patriotism, or panic at the thought of a diversifying country β€” find it simply not credible that their champions are actually running on a politically toxic agenda that would clearly lose elections.”

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Lol bro nobody is going to read that

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this is literally the fallacy of centrism and American moderate delusion

You have a bad habit of assuming the positions of those with whom you engage.

That aside, you still clearly do not understand my point.

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Something has to be done! The Demand Overlords have become openly hostile to elections.

They won't even accept losing in 1d20+5 states, aliens are just producing election fraud conspiracies at an unprecedented rate.

It's hard to argue this isn't the vampires laying the groundwork to use state power to steal national elections. 2020 was a trial run. They identified every point from which they failed and have been passing laws erasing those points since the election ended.

:#marseyjones: :#marseyjones: :#marseyjones: :#marseyjones: :#marseyjones:

:marseypizzashill: :#marseydicklet:

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I don’t get it

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You'll notice not one of them can ever respond to or refute anything said, they all engage in the same tactic:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Appeal_to_ridicule

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