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Due to the overturn of Roe v Wade, a 173-year-old abortion ban with no exceptions is suddenly in effect in Wisconsin.

https://old.reddit.com/r/wisconsin/comments/vjpzfk/wisconsins_173yearold_abortion_ban_goes_into?sort=controversial

I know, another Roe post, it's just beating a dead baby at this point. But it's pretty amazing how the pro choice movement carried out literally no long term planning in the last 50 years. Redditors, of course, are Redditing.

Should we start gearing up for the civil war too? How about re-enslaving black people? this country is so fricking stupid

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it's pretty amazing how the pro-choice movement treated precedent the way its supposed to work under common law

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Dude even RBG recognized how shaky this precedent was. She (accurately) diagnosed that all Roe did was give conservatives a target to rail against for 50 years, as well as the inherent risk that it could easily be undone at any moment because it was bench legislation that totally circumvented the legal process.

>β€œRoe v. Wade, in contrast, invited no dialogue with legislators. Instead, it seemed entirely to remove the ball from the legislators’ court."

>"Doctrinal limbs too swiftly shaped, experience teaches, may prove unstable. The most prominent example in recent decades is Roe v. Wade. A less-encompassing Roe, one that merely struck down the extreme Texas law and went no further on that day … might have served to reduce rather than to fuel controversy"

This whole thing should be a lesson to Dems on why you shouldn't rely on bench legislation like this. If they'd spent the last 50 years passing incremental changes to abortion law through the legislature whenever they had full control (aka "doing it the right way"), Republicans would basically need a supermajority in the legislature to overturn the law.

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the inherent risk that it could easily be undone at any moment because it was bench legislation that totally circumvented the legal process.

Explain to me how you think regular legislation works.

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A judge bangs his gavel and announces a new law, right?


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Great synopsis. I'm pro choice but for 50yrs dems could have codified that into law, they didn't and this is what happens when you pretend case law never changes

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And worst, during that 50 years, their rhetoric in philosophy department became more radicalized in an effort to own the chuds by labeling a human fetus as garbage or some vile shits like parasite.

Its funny how had these people just left the Protestant alone, by now, they probably would’ve compromised on abortion at least to some extent but no, it was more important for the libs to circlejerk amongst themselves without doing jack shit

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Yeah when I hear terms like that I realize I didn't care for your company that was swept into the Democratic party

My wife's friend is a NICU nurse and they routinely save babies at the 26wk Mark. People who advocate for third trimester abortions as a right make me sick

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If they can save a baby at 26wk what's wrong with just inducing early delivery, saving the baby, and throwing it down the adoption pipeline. For the wammen involved that's functionally the same as an abruption isn't it? Why is this idea never talked about? Except in cases where the fetus is a potato, it would solve everyone's problem with late-term abortions.

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putting the kid in foster care still leaves the mother on the hook for child support

the keystone of feminist philosophy is absolving women of responsibility for their actions so that's a non-starter

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Not a guaranteed chance of survival and the kid is pretty fricked developmentally (physically). Putting them into foster care afterwards further gives them a shitty hand in life.

I doubt someone would want to adopt a super premie either, it's extremely difficult. Then there's the matter of who's paying the bill, a premie can easily rack up $100k medical debt :marseyshrug:

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There are millions of people who want to adopt a baby. Children under 3 who are up for adoption rarely stay in the foster system for long, if at all.

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Fun fact: late term abortions are actually longer and more traumatic on your body than a C-section.

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Anti abortion people have been working on this for 50 years, you'd think the choicers would have noticed. Precedent has been overturned many times, including famously in Brown v Board.

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