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Iโm trying not to seethe at someone coming in here and telling me how cushy my life is. Go away (53)
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The average lawyer makes way less than you think and might have 6 figures in student loans. Also no matter how much money you make, if you work 70-100 hours a week in a thankless job you will hate it. (154)
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Itโs not comparable. For one, pulling 60-70 hours a week for only two years is very manageable. Just law school is three years of that and making next to nothing. Then, for most lawyers, thatโs what theyโll be pulling for the rest of their life or until retirement. [Just to note, Iโm not saying what you did isnโt impressive. However, the issues with working that many hours arenโt immediately noticeable. They slowly creep up on you over years (burnout, mental health issues get worse, social life becomes nonexistentโฆ.)] Lastly, after your workday ended, you probably went to bed and slept like a baby, right? Typically, most lawyers are still thinking about work and worrying about deadlines. As for your general question, I believe the main reason most lawyers hate their field is the toxic work environment. Itโs inherently toxic. Thereโs not much room for praise or compliments. To put it politely, Iโm criticizing the opposing counsel; he or she is criticizing me; the judge i... (23)
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Thank you for your service but you are making an apples to oranges comparison comparing military SERVICE and a white collar job--it doesn't take a licensed attorney, law school graduate, or even a law school student to figure that out. Are you sure you are cut out intellectually and rhetorically for this job, because these "soft lawyers" are the type of peers you'll be dealing with. Making ad hominem attacks of calling people "soft" when you are not even one yet is also not constructive.The fact is, many of these lawyers may have had alternate routes such as accounting, software engineering, investment banking, or even their pre-law jobs that could made more if not the same with less hours and stress. (7)
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Can you clarify why you have to be ready to quit on ethical grounds if you work in-house? (1)
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True, I was pulling 60-70 hour week in the military at NTC for 2 yeaes and making next to nothing and no barely any chance to make a better affordable living:
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At NTC I worked for 2 years... 17 days straight, and 2 days off... keep in mind I sleep in trucks, dirt roads, military training in general at 110ยฐF heat from April to September-Oct... it might no be comparable but the workload is heavy and usually get about 5 hours of sleep. All these soft lawyers down voting me for no rreason. I'd like to see them go do that job for 10 out of the 12 months CONSECUTIVELY.:
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High barrier to entry, with costs and stress.Then you get into the actual job and for many it doesnโt pay as well as theyโre hoping while for the others it takes up even more time than they were expecting, typically. Litigation is highly contentious and the clients are stressed, solicitorโs work is repetitious and both are swamped by impromptu deadlines. High risk of random negligent slips if youโre not constantly paranoid of them; and even one can really frick your career.A lot of people generally donโt like lawyers. Specifically low - low middle class folk often think lawyers are just liars and also that criminal defence lawyers support male feminists, prosecution charge innocent minorities and petty criminals, personal injury claimants side are ambulance chasers, personal injury defence are corporate or insurance goons etc etc:
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Rule 1.16 requires that you withdraw from representation if your services may be used for illegal or fraudulent activity. That means firing a client. For in-house counsel, firing your client means quitting your job.I've had to give the "final speech" twice in my 10 year career. Both times, the president of the company informed me of his intended course of action which would render a fraud upon the court, so I told him that if he persisted in the conduct, I would resign. That stopped the conduct.:
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