The South African did another heckerino - in response reddit jannies have taken up their mops in protest to "petition" their userbase about a total ban on Twitter/X links. Numerous subs have already joined, including but not limited to:

r/MadeMeSmile

r/BlueskySocial

r/DnD

r/nba

r/pcgaming

r/newjersey

r/formula1

r/hockey

r/chelseafc

r/boardgames

r/CHIBears

r/ffxiv

r/detroitlions

r/OnePiece

r/steelers

r/ireland

r/magicTCG

r/antiwork (carp added this one with jannie abuse powers hi!!!!!)

Is this totally organic? Will it accomplish anything? Doesn't matter, it's a reddit protest!!

there is an open source model stronger than your publicly available models and the weights are free. I can fine tune it to tell me how to make meth pipebombs today. I could upload those weights for anyone to use today. what is even the point of this? https://t.co/nryVv8qLff

— 𝞍 Shin Megami Boson 𝞍 (@shinboson) February 4, 2025

The #Groomer is trying to turn our children into freaks. https://t.co/o92QlF8E1o pic.twitter.com/sitBzuEVfi

— Darrin Bell (@DarrinBellArt) April 23, 2022

https://www.pulitzer.org/winners/darrin-bell-freelancer

anyway lets look at the works of his that won the pulitzer

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Darrin_Bell

pic.twitter.com/vMWPVQpUvE

— 🇬🇧 𝙔𝙊𝙊𝙆𝘼𝙔 𝘼𝙀𝙎𝙏𝙃𝙀𝙏𝙄𝘾𝙎 🇬🇧 (@MythoYookay) February 17, 2025

As he sits in his ivory tower.

So would you rather us lose our sovereignty? If you believe that just say it.

You would give up your job, become homeless, and give up your retirement account?

If you believe that just do it.

Yeah, I'm prepared to do that -- and one more than that.

The additional one is arm up and resist.

No fricking way will I accept an American overlord on our soil.

/u/Link50L

You and what rifle? We've been disarmed! You stood by and probably cheered it as it happened!

!nooticers note how he says "arm up and resist" not just resist. This is a man who own no guns and who thinks, what he'll just be provided with one when shit hits the fan?

https://old.reddit.com/r/NewOrleans/comments/1ikrcb4/shout_out_to_the_security_guard_downtown/

https://old.reddit.com/r/NewOrleans/comments/1ikqv0q/low_flying_helicopter/

https://old.reddit.com/r/NewOrleans/comments/1ijvm8d/service_industry_super_bowl_tourists_vent/

https://old.reddit.com/r/NewOrleans/comments/1ijfr6k/new_orleans_magic_tourists_disappear_during_big/

https://old.reddit.com/r/NewOrleans/comments/1iijkej/i_know_its_super_gras_but_is_it_basically_martial/

Greetings Dramatards

In 1987, the SAL (Suid-Afrikaanse Lugdiens), or the SAA (South African Airways), operated a small fleet of Boeing 747-200 Combi variants, for its international flights. Boeing was at its peak, and the 747 was one of the worlds most infamous and popular commercial aircraft ever produced.

One of these Being 747-200s was the "Helderberg", which operated often between the Johannesburg Jan Smuts airport (now modern day O. R. Tambo International Airport), and various international destinations.

On the fateful day of 28 November 1987, an uncontrollable catastrophic fire broke out in the cargo area of the 747-200 Helderberg. At some unknown point this fire caused, the breaking and snapping the airplane in half, and the airplane to drop like a stone into the Indian Ocean, a distance away from the Island off of Mauritius.

INTRO: INCONCLUSIVE INVESTIGATIONS AND CONSPIRACIES

"An extensive salvage operation was mounted to try to recover the aircraft's flight recorders, one of which was recovered from a depth of 4,900 metres (16,100 ft)." But due to the inconclusive findings on the cause of the fire, events would lead to conspiracy theories, due to the political tensions between the Apartheid-regime and the rest of the world's Western democracies, and between the 1st and 2nd world during the Cold War.

There was (among radicals the) belief that the Union of SA regime had conspired to assassinate one of the passengers for being a severe critic of the Apartheid government, although who specifically amongst the 159 dead onboard, was supposed to have been singled out for assassination, was never specified aptly or elaborated by conspiracies.

On the other hand, the Bureau of State Security (BOSS), the SA equivalent of the CIA and NSA rolled into one ominous organization, was a very powerful and secretive mechanism of the Union regime, which enacted counter-insurgencies, imprisoned high-level ANC and communist members, and was known to ACTUALLY have assassinated political dissidents during the High Apartheid era.

Additionally, the incredible blanket of secrecy and censorship against media and journ*lists at the time, constantly beget conspiracies or distrust against the Apartheid government, even and ironically ESPECIALLY, amongst the white minority it served to uphold as the dominant class, who themselves began to distrust their own government less and less. By 1987, the year in which the crash took place, the walls were also closing in for the Union regime, and there was already widespread open talk of Apartheid ending, or possible Civil War building, as sanctions had crippled the regime and brought it to its knees. Additionally, the Soviet Union was busy imploding - and with it, the arch-enemy, and external threat the regime had justified for the past 40 years, to enable it to curb the rights and freedoms, of blacks, and ironically whites of the nation state as well, as justification for the regime's existence.

Lastly, and why I go on this long tangent, to explain why this particular crash was fuel for distrust of the government, and why it played such a large role in the late 1980s zeightgheist for conspiracy (at least for the SA whites), was that just 2 years before in 1985, Angolan Communist forces had utterly humiliated the Union of South Africa by parading captured POWs in front of the international world audience!

https://rdrama.net/post/228216/marseyflagsouthafrica-1985-south-african-recces-special

I made a Longpost about it a year ago. But the context is that the public trust (of whites) in the Apartheid-regime and the Union of SA government had been permanently shattered. It was a Watershed-moment, similar in theme as the public trust of yanks being shattered in their government, when the Tet Offensive contravened the Military/Politician narrative that the US Forces were close to defeating communist forces in Vietnam. In 1985, during the long long Angolan-SA Borger Bush War (which primarily occurred on the northern border of Namibia which was part of the SA Union), young men of RECCES (the South African Special Forces; equivalent to Delta Forces), had been captured during a really stupid and unlucky moment during a highly classified covert operation, in which they were operating behind enemy lines in Angola.

The RECCE men were disgorged from a submarine under the cover of night, and made their way into enemy territory in Angola, under pitch darkness. Only to discover to their horror the next morning, that they had camped in an empty field; what they had though was a dense jungle, was in reality nothing but an island of dense plant growth within a sea of flat grass and crops. And their boot tracks upon the night dew had been discovered almost fricking immediately, leading to their capture.

After a brutal firefight, the survivors would be paraded by the Angolans on international TV, embarrassing the SA government who had denied the presence of SA forces inside Angola, to the world at the UN, and more importantly their own citizens, while also shattering the trust white Safricans had in the regime. Combined with the coming home of crippled and wounded white young men from the Angolan border all the time, where they were forbidden from even telling their families where they lost their limbs, with the government lying about the perpetual expanding of operations, there was growing discontent.

In this context, it can be more easily understood why this specific Airplane crash, in this specific unique moment in time, would cause such consternation, when compared to the rest of the world's plane crashes, where the circumstances were comparatively benign.

But the distrust towards the Apartheid regime was so extreme, that many rejected the inconclusive findings of Flight SA295's crash and/or cause of the fire in the cargo area, which led to speculation or conspiracies that the government had planted bombs or incendiary devices to scuttle the plane during its vulnerability over the Indian Ocean, as part of an elaborate assassination attempt.

And to be clear these conspiracy theories weren't just the usual UFO nutjobs and allegations were so extreme, to the extent that even the ANC TRC (Truth-and-Reconciliation-Commission), a Commission which investigated Apartheid crimes in 1994-1996 under the Nelson Mandela administration, that they reopened the crash-investigation a near decade later, because so many of the dead passengers relatives disbelieved the government investigation from back in 1987, and had petitioned for the new liberal order, to reopen the investigation!

THE EVENTS:

https://tailstrike.com/database/28-november-1987-south-african-295/

====(from tailstrike article)

Flight 295, called the Helderberg and flying in the aircraft livery and colours of South African Airways, took off from Chiang Kai Shek International Airport (now known as Taiwan Taoyuan International Airport), on a flight to Johannesburg via Mauritius. Dawie Uys served as the captain of the crashed flight.

Flight 295 had 140 passengers and six pallets of cargo on the main deck. The master waybills stated that 47,000 kilograms (100,000 lb) of baggage and cargo were loaded on the plane. A Taiwanese customs official performed a surprise inspection of some of the cargo; he did not find any cargo that could be characterized as suspicious.

At some point during the flight, a fire developed in the cargo section on the main deck. The crew's checklist advised the crew to initiate recirculation of the air in the cabin and to open the cabin doors to let toxic gases out of the aircraft. However, the checklist operated under the assumption that the fire had been extinguished.

Since the fire was probably never extinguished prior to impact, the recirculation fed smoke and toxic gases to passengers, and the opening of the door allowed in oxygen that fed the fire. A crew member went into the cargo hold to try to fight the fire, but he left behind a charged fire extinguisher either because he could not access the fire, or because it was too hot to stay in the hold. Investigators later found molten metal on the fire extinguisher.

At 23.49h the crew reported Mauritius Approach control they had a fire on board. An emergency descent to FL140 was carried out. Mauritius ATC cleared the aircraft to FL50, followed by an approach clearance. The captain's response was the last radio contact with SA295. The aircraft had somehow lost control, broke up and crashed into the Ocean.

====(end tailstrike)

After communication with Flight SA295 was lost for thirty-six minutes, after midnight, air traffic control at Plaisance Airport (Mauritius) formally declared an emergency.

The investigation by South African authorities had concluded that the fire began to destroy the aircraft's important electrical systems, resulting in loss of communication and control of the aircraft. At exactly 00:07 UTC (4:07 local time), the aircraft broke apart mid-air, the tail section breaking off first, due to the fire beginning to burn the structure of the aircraft, and crashed into the Indian Ocean, about 134 nautical miles (154 mi; 248 km) from the Plaisance airport.

Other theories given for the ultimate demise of the aircraft were that the flight crew eventually became incapacitated by the smoke and fire or extensive damage to the 747's control systems rendered the plane uncontrollable before it hit the ocean.

LONG FLIGHT:

Now one thing peeps need to know is that commercial Airplanes don't always like flying over oceans, as they tend to be actually more dangerous to land on land. Thus, many international flights prefer to hop over land stops, even on a detour for international flights. Typically an international flight would prefer to fly across Egypt, then towards South Africa, and avoid flights over large bodies of water, like the Indian Ocean.

But in 1987, South Africa was a Pariah State, and suffering Sanctions from like half of all members of the United Nations, including the majority of Western Liberal Democracies, and significantly, the majority of African states, which by this timeframe had decolonialized and obtained independence from their Eurocuck overlords, and most of whom were Subsaharan black peeps, not too pleased with the maltreatment black people received in the segregated Nation State of the Union of South Africa, and thus forbade trade, diplomacy or even the landing of aircraft in their airports, or the docking of ships at their docks.

Thus, for international long-distance flights, to far away places like Japan and East Asia, Safrican commercial airplanes, were pretty much forced to fly across the Indian Ocean

The makeup of the passengers included South Africans returning home, as well as Japanese, Taiwanese and some Australians.

https://www.key.aero/article/flying-springboks-great-detour

FLIGHT RECORD:

https://asn.flightsafety.org/asndb/326653

Now the reason why the type of airplane of SA295 or Helderberg was mentioned, namely the Boeing 747-200 Combi, was to illustrate the makeup of the plane. The Boeing 747-200 Combi consisted of a passenger area (the 1st 2/3rd of the airplane), and a cargo area (the last 1/3rd of the airplane). The fire would start at some place within the cargo area, away from human eyes, which is why it took longer than average for the crew to identify where exactly the fire was originating from, when the cockpit fire-alarm warnings began to be activated.

Picture of reconstruction of the airframe as by the Investigation Report.

In the flight recorder, it could be heard that the cockpit crew become surprised when fire-warning alarms rang out of nowhere, several hours prior to the last contact and crash of the plane. The strain in the pilot's voices could be heard as this unholy nightmare scenario was one of the worst possible things to experience, for an airplane midway over an ocean.

The pilots desperately pulled out their manual checklists to determine the origin and cause of the fire-alarm. This might seem stupid to us laypeople, but apparently locating a fire source is especially difficult, as the idea is to do so well before it can do any damage, and fires on a commercial airplane can occur in many of the nooks-and-crannies of a vast aircraft like the 747.

In these flight recordings the sound of more circuit breakers popping (I don't know what precisely that means - i presume warning circuits to show electric flow between systems have ceased), and the pilot can be heard swearing in Afrikaans & English: "Dis die feit that albei fokken afgegaan het, wat my versteur" / "It's the fact that both turned off at the same time, which disturbs me"

These circuit breakers going off one after the other indicated that electrical wires were being eaten by flames somewhere in the airplane, and the horror of this comprehension could be heard in the voices of the pilots. The alarms did indicate that the fire was occurring within the cargo area, however.

But the real gal of this event! Was that some of the very wires the fire was busy eating, was that of the flight-recorder itself, which would only exacerbate the conspiracy and mystery of the events of Flight SA295.

ZUR TAPES:

Now because of the burning of the onboard Flight-recorder, the only audio records we have of the entirety of Flight SA295 was those of the beginning of the Flight-recorder, before the electric wires got burned and the interaction of Captain Uys and the Mauritius Airport control tower recording, when Captain Uys requested a declaration of emergency, and the subsequent complete radio silence less than an hour later.

https://www.avcom.co.za/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?t=261611

However in South Africa, in Johannesburg, South African Airways, also operated an International Radio Station called ZUR (frustratingly I could not locate any explanation for the acronym), which kept track of all of the South African Airways planes around the planet. The reason for this?

Remember when we talked about how South Africa was a Pariah State? And how they basically had to skirt the airspace of most of Africa, and many Western Democracies? Well ZUR allowed SAA to keep track of its fleet of aircraft, and direct them if problems or emergencies arose. It was only one of 2 Nation States on earth which provided such a service - the other being Bongland's British Airways.

WELL GUESS WHAT

The ZUR tape-recorders were missing. These ZUR tape-recordings are supposed to run all day 24/7, as the fleet of South African Airways' Springboks commercial airliners travel across various timezones, well outside the waking hours of Safrica, and the communication between the ZUR Johannesburg base and international flights preserved.

The tapes for the ZUR base communications for the night of 27 November 1987 was available. The tape for 29 November 1987 was there. But NOT the fricking tape for 28 Nov 1987

As you guys can only imagine, it was this discrepancy in the aftermath crash investigation which exacerbated conspiracies, even during the era of extreme censorship, as word-of-mouth discontent and suspicion broiled. The missing ZUR tapes are apparently legendary for Safrican airplane neurodivergents, though that is beyond my own capacity to verify.

Thus, the missing ZUR tapes indicated a sinister cause of the fire.

https://www.avcom.co.za/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?t=261611

Some forum posts by aviation neurodivergents regarding "Two-Fire" theory regarding Flight 295 about 12 years ago.

https://www.facebook.com/groups/helderberg295/posts/10161117563728150/

There's even a Facebook page about SA295

CONSPIRACY:

So what exactly is the conspiracy theories exactly about, according to South Africans? Why was there a cover up by those disbelieving the official government crash investigation reports. There are 2 schools of thought.

Assassination:

It's believed that one or some of the passengers aboard the Helderberg were liberals or anit-Apartheid advocates with influence coming to South Africa to stir dissension and groomercord, amongst both black and white South Africans, or were reporters coming to expose more crimes-against-humanity of the Union regime or whatever. This would not even be an unprecedented action by organs of the state like BOSS (Bureau for State Security), which in fact DID assassinate ANC and other communist leaders, often outside of South African borders, because the Apartheid authorities liked to remove dangerous agitators away from SA shores, because they desired the veneer of authenticity.

Using a bomb, or an incendiary device to disguise the assassination device, to destroy the airplane over the Indian Ocean, away from prying eyes, and outside SA borders, would have been the type of methods employed by powerful entities like BOSS.

This conspiracy theory holds less weight amongst other conspiracy believers, because the idea of the SA Government sacrificing about 100 South Africans, and one of its commercial airliners just to kill one undesirable target holds little water, and would even be unprecedented for Apartheid authorities. The reason being is that the white government was neurotic about valuing white lives.

Whist it didn't value black lives at all, the incredible small white population of South Africa, meant that white populations were precious to the government, even the dissidents, and the government Police or even Military police seldom at any point from 1940-1993 ever killed whites, even white anti-Apartheid advocates like Breyten Bretenbach, whom they just jailed or exiled from the country.

https://af.wikipedia.org/wiki/Breyten_Breytenbach

So to wholesale murder 100 whites to silence even an influential detractor (the specific passenger whom isn't even decided) would be outside of the MO of historic regime behaviour.

Gun-Smuggling

During 1987, due to being sanctioned by basically everyone which mattered, the Union regime was on its knees in terms of the ability to self-sustainably construct domestic products, much of which they could not craft locally, like weaponry.

While South Africa could and DID in fact craft much of their own warplanes, tanks, armoured vehicles and small-arms, they could not do so for everything, and their industries were becomnning increasingly shackled. Thus, according to this school of conspiracy thought, the regime authorities endeavored to smuggle arms even via their commercial airliners from places like East-Asia which were mostly neutral with regards to Human Rights slapfights in the UN and more willing to trade on the black market with pariah states.

The military operations in Angola was bottomless in its thirst and requirements for equiment and ammunition. According to this theory, high ranking government officials, army leaders and South African Airways officials were all in on the conspiracy, and were the ones to immediately destroy the ZUR tapes pertaining to the Helderberg SA295, even under the fear that some of the weapons, bombs missile fuel chemicals, or God alone knows, they suspected were the cause of the fires upon the Helderberg, because the transport of military hardware had to be done under supreme secrecy and censorship.

Additionally, South African Airways would be breeching International Law, as the use of civilian commercial aircraft to smuggle weapons is forbidden. SA was already enough of a Pariah state, and the discovery, or at least proof of such cargo could lead to the banning of the SAA in many countries, or at least it is theorized such would be feared.

THE IMMEDIATE AFTERMATH:

Now it's important to understand that immediately after the Helderberg SA295's crash became news to South Africa, the 1st theories for its crash had been terrorism, as in ANC or other communist factions had planted a bomb to destroy the aircraft, in a similar way in which the ANC was bombing schools, police stations and courts within South Africa, to pressure the White government to end segregation and begin democratization. It was initially believed that somebody sympathetic to ANC communists, like chinese spies had smuggled an incendiary bomblet into the cargo of the Helderberg.

It was only after the ZUR tapes absence was noted, that the conspiracy theories and public turned hostile towards the South African government itself.

"Rennie Van Zyl, South Africa's head crash investigator, examined three wristwatches from baggage recovered from the surface; two of the watches were still running according to Taiwan time. Van Zyl deduced the approximate time of impact at 00:07:00, around three minutes after the last communication with air traffic control"

"Immediately after the crash, the press and public opinion suspected that terrorism brought down Flight 295. South Africa, then under the control of the apartheid government, was the target of terrorism both domestically and internationally, and offices for SAA, the country's flag carrier, had previously been attacked. Experts searched for indicators of an explosion on the initial pieces of wreckage discovered, such as surface pitting, impact cavities and spatter cavities caused by white-hot fragments from explosive devices that strike and melt metal alloys found in aircraft structures. Experts found none of this evidence. The investigators drew blood samples from two of the recovered bodies and found that the bodies had soot in their tracheae, indicating that at least two had died from smoke inhalation before the aircraft had crashed, and concluded that some of the passengers would have already lost their lives even if the pilots had successfully reached the airport.

https://www.politicsweb.co.za/news-and-analysis/the-helderberg-disaster-was-this-the-cause-of-the-

"Van Zyl took the voice recorder to the US National Transportation Safety Board (NTSB) in Washington, DC, both to show his goodwill and to ensure neutral observers. Van Zyl believes that if he had kept the CVR in South Africa he could have been accused of covering up the truth."

https://www.aerotime.aero/articles/32753-south-african-airlines-crash-combi-fire-mystery

Additionally the cargo manifest created at Taiwan could not be trusted by the investigators

DEEDSEA SEARCH:

Finding the black box and voice-recorder was a monumental undertaking. And the lead investigator Rennie Van Zyl, was incredibly disappointed when they found the recorder basically contained nothing of the flight log, as it was cut off by the fire basically just when the important action started. And you'll understand his frustration once you realize the magnitude of effort the SA government made to find it.

https://admiralcloudberg.medium.com/fall-of-the-helderberg-the-crash-of-south-african-airways-flight-295-ef6261a01b46

"The search area is described as being comparable in size to that of the wreck of the Titanic, with the water at 5,000 metres (16,000 ft) being considerably deeper than any previously successful salvage operation. South Africa mounted an underwater search, named 'Operation Resolve', to try to locate the wreckage. The underwater locator beacons (ULBs) attached to the flight recorders were not designed for deep ocean use; nevertheless, a two-month-long sonar search for them was carried out before the effort was abandoned on 8 January 1988 when the ULBs were known to have stopped transmitting (at the time a ULB had to generate sonic pulses for thirty days)"

"Steadfast Oceaneering, a specialist deep-ocean recovery company in the US, was contracted at great expense to find the site and recover the flight recorders. On 6 January 1989, the cockpit voice recorder (CVR) was salvaged successfully from a record depth of 4,900 metres (16,100 ft) by the remotely operated vehicle (ROV) Gemini, but the flight data recorder was never found."

TRUTH AND RECONCILIATION COMISSION:

Now again to put into perspective just how widespread distrust there was within South African society about the Investigation Crash report of Flight SA295, and how foul play was suspected by both black and white safricans, the conspiracy movement continued onwards for 7 full years, well unto 1993, when democratization took place, and the Mandela Administration took power under the ANC party. And that many of the dead passengers had applied to the Truth and Reconciliation Commission (TRC) which took place from 1995-1996, where perpetrators of crimes-against-humanity during Apartheid were offered the chance of Amnesty by the Mandela Admin, if they confessed their crimes.

https://www.justice.gov.za/trc/

The whole TRC event is worth its own Longpost, as pretty much everyone was unhappy with the results. TRC could to force anyone to confess, only interrogate officials and was drama-central. Whitoids felt it was commies lynching revenge, and blacks felt apartheid officials got off scot free.

Point is the reopening of the Air Crash Investigation was authorized by the ANC, so it was a pretty seriously considered conspiracy theory!!

https://gist.ly/youtube-summarizer/flight-295-the-mystery-of-south-african-airways-tragic-journey

In the years since 1987, several pilots of South African Airways had allegedly come forward to claim that they were aware of South African airways were in cahoots with Armscor, the South African Armaments Manufacturer. Armscor apparently sued the pilots and journ*lists about these articles, but not much came from it as far as I can gather.

They still exist today, and still make weapons for the current government by the way

https://www.armscor.co.za/

KLATZOW INTERVIEW:

Basically, there was one guy called David Klatzow, who was a forensic scientists who was retained to work on the case by Boeing's counsel around the time of the official enquiry. He deeply distrusted the SA investigators.

https://admiralcloudberg.medium.com/fall-of-the-helderberg-the-crash-of-south-african-airways-flight-295-ef6261a01b46

=====He subsequently criticised the Margo commission for spending an inordinate amount of time looking into "relatively irrelevant issues" and that the commission ignored the most important question, what was the source of the fire and who had been responsible for loading it onto the aircraft? Klatzow believes that there are certain irregularities in parts of the commission transcript that indicate that something on the CVR transcript had to be concealed.=====

=====Klatzow put forward a theory that the fire likely involved substances that would not normally be carried on a passenger aircraft and that the fire was not likely a wood, cardboard, or plastic fire. South Africa was under an arms embargo at the time; the South African government therefore had to buy arms clandestinely. Klatzow's theory postulates that the government placed a rocket system in the cargo hold, and that vibration caused the ignition of unstable ammonium perchlorate, which is a chemical compound used as a missile propellant.=====

Klatzow had argued that Captain Uys would have been in contact with ZUR station and as a SAAF reservist, he would have followed orders from the Union regime not to land the Helderberg at Taiwan once fire had been detected, because discovery of illicit cargo upon investigation of the fire could have led to South African Airways being banned from international flights.

He was the primary guy interviewed in 1998 TRC for the Helderberg.

This specific TRC hearing was very shit and inept.

"Klatzow was invited by the TRC to explain his theories and cross-examine witnesses. Unlike most other hearings of the TRC, the hearing into Flight 295 was conducted in camera, and without any representation from the South African Civil Aviation Authority (CAA). Klatzow considered the CAA untrustworthy because it had participated in the official enquiry, which he considered flawed. A number of key aspects of Klatzow's theory hinged on his criticism of the actions of Judge Margo during the official enquiry, yet Judge Margo was not summoned to answer any of the allegations made against him."

"The TRC concluded that nothing listed in the flight manifest could have caused the fire, a conclusion that was met with controversy within the public."

Basically it all went fricking nowhere, and everybody was upset. The former judges and investigators were upset, because they literally weren't invited to even stand in for their actions. The families were upset because they were cucked.

Here's the original transcript which TRC commission (alongside video tapes of the interviews) was pressured by the public to release in 2000, because the answers and the TRC's conclusions were so unsatisfying. It's very boring, and in my personal opinion mostly conjecture, which is probably why the TRCtards wanted to get on with other much juicier apartheid fish to fry.

https://sabctrc.saha.org.za/documents/special/helderberg/56321.htm

END:

And uhhh, that's pretty much it, the mystery is still pretty much unsolved, and the majority of the families decry the findings of the original Air Crash investigation and that of the TRC. Of course most accusations are in fact still hearsay, and the mundane reality is that the Helderberg crash could in fact have been due to unfortunate circumstances rather than conspiracy.

Some pictures.

!africans

I'm in a full-on panic. Today being Memorial Day, the first after several losses, I went with my family to the cemetery. In my emotional state, I stupidly forgot a mask. It isn't very crowded, luckily, and there's a slight breeze. But about 100 feet away, maybe 2-3 car lengths? I don't know I'm awful measuring distance. I hear a woman cough several times. She's downwind from me, and She proceeds to walk past our cars on the opposite side of us, which looked about 50-75 feet away, again I'm awful with measurements and I'm barely breathing from panic. That's as close as she got. Am I fricked? I'm so fricking scared

My favorite comment on the post:

Many people are coughing lately, it's the new normal! Outdoors is safer than indoors.

I found OP's YouTube channel and uhh

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Internet dating at 30 - a turning point?

Since it first appeared with the launch of match.com 30 years ago, online dating has fundamentally altered our relationships. Around 10% of heterosexual people and 24% of LGBT people have met their long-term partner online, according to Pew Research Center.

But evidence suggests that young people are switching off dating apps, with the UK's top 10 seeing a fall of nearly 16%, according to a report published by Ofcom in November 2024. Tinder lost 594,000 users, while Hinge dropped by 131,000, Bumble by 368,000 and Grindr by 11,000, the report said (a Grindr spokesperson said they were "not familiar with this study's source data" and that their UK users "continue to rise year over year").

According to a 2023 Axios study of US college students and other Gen Zers, 79% said they were forgoing regular dating app usage. And in its 2024 Online Nation report, Ofcom said: "Some analysts speculate that for younger people, particularly Gen Z, the novelty of dating apps is wearing off." In a January 2024 letter to shareholders, Match Group Inc - which owns Tinder and Hinge - acknowledged younger people were seeking "a lower pressure, more authentic way to find connections".

"The idea of using a shared interest to meet someone isn't new, but it's been reinvented in this particular moment in time – it signals a desire of Gen Z," says Carolina Bandinelli, an associate professor at Warwick University whose research focuses on the digital technologies of romance.

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Many younger people are exploring alternatives to dating apps, from gaming to running clubs and other social activities

According to Danait Tesfay, 26, a marketing assistant from London, younger people are looking for alternatives to dating apps, "whether that be gaming or running clubs or extra-curricular clubs, where people are able to meet other like-minded people and eventually foster a romantic connection".

At the same time that membership of some dating apps appears to be in decline, platforms based around common interests are attracting more users. For instance, the fitness app Strava now has 135m users – and its monthly active users grew by 20% last year, according to the company. Other so-called "affinity-based" sites have seen similar growth: Letterboxd, where film fans can share reviews, says its community grew by 50% last year.

Rise of the hobby apps

And just as in the pre-internet age, when couples might have met at a sports club or the cinema, now singletons are able to find each other in their online equivalents.

"People have always bonded over shared interests, but it's been given a digital spin with these online communities," says Luke Brunning, co-director of the Centre for Love, S*x, and Relationships (CLSR) at the University of Leeds.

"It's increasingly difficult to distinguish between behaviour that's on a dating app and dating behaviour on another platform."

Hobby apps are taking on some features of social media, too: in 2023, Strava introduced a messaging feature letting users chat directly. One twenty-something from London explains that her friends use it as a way to flirt with people they fancy, initially by liking a running route they've posted on the platform. Strava says its data shows that one in five of its active Gen Z members has been on a date with someone they met through fitness clubs.

"[Online] fitness communities are becoming big places to find partners," says Nichi Hodgson, the author of The Curious History of Dating. She says a friend of hers met his partner that way, and they're now living together.

The same appears to apply to Letterboxd, too. With users including Chappell Roan and Charli XCX, it's a popular platform for younger people - two-thirds of members in a survey of 5,000 were under 34.

The company says it's aware of several couples meeting through the app, including one who bonded over a shared love of David Fincher's opinion-dividing 2020 drama Mank. "It could be that seeing other people's film tastes reveals an interesting aspect of themselves," says Letterboxd co-founder Matthew Buchanan.

Why the shift?

So what might be driving this? While dating apps initially appeared to offer "the illusion of choice", and a transparent, efficient way to meet partners, the reality for many has often proven to be different. The Pew Research Center found that 46% of dating-app users said their experiences were overall very or somewhat negative.

The recent decline in user numbers might also be a response to the way some apps are structured – in particular, the swipe feature for selecting potential partners, launched by Tinder in 2013 and widely copied.

Its creator, Jonathan Badeen, was partly inspired by studying the 1940s experiments of psychologist BF Skinner, who conditioned hungry pigeons to believe that food delivered randomly into a tray was prompted by their movements.

Getty Images A psychological experiment with pigeons conducted by BF SkinnerGetty Images

Tinder's swipe mechanism was partly inspired by Harvard Professor BF Skinner's psychological experiments with pigeons in order to understand the brain's reward system

Eventually, the swipe mechanism faced a backlash. "Ten years ago, people were enthusiastic and would talk quite openly about what apps they were on," says Ms Hodgson. "Now the Tinder model is dead with many young people – they don't want to swipe any more."

According to Mr Brunning, the gameifying interface of many dating apps is a turn-off. "Intimacy is made simple for you, it's made fun in the short term, but the more you play, the more you feel kind of icky."

The pandemic may have had an impact, too, says Prof Brian Heaphy at the University of Manchester, who has studied dating-app use in and after the lockdowns: "During Covid, dating apps themselves became more like social media – because people couldn't meet up, they were looking for different things."

Although that didn't last after the pandemic, it "gave people a sense that it could be different from just swiping and getting no responses – all the negatives of dating-app culture," says Prof Heaphy.

And in that context, the fact that video games or online communities like Strava or Letterboxd aren't designed for dating can be appealing. By attracting users for a broader range of reasons, there's less pressure on each interaction.

"Those apps aren't offering a commercialised form of romance, so they can seem more authentic," says Prof Heaphy.

The World of Warcraft characters of PurplePixel and Wochi

The humans behind Wochi and PurplePixel (pictured) met while playing World of Warcraft, though they say finding a partner wasn't their original intention

It's a type of connection free from the burden of expectation. A different couple who met on World of Warcraft – and go by the names Wochi and PurplePixel – weren't looking for love. "I definitely didn't go into an online game trying to find a partner," says Wochi.

But although initially in opposing teams, or guilds, their characters started a conversation. "We spent all night talking until the early hours of the morning, and by the end of the night, I'd actually left my guild and joined his guild," says PurplePixel. Within three years, Wochi had quit his job and moved to the UK from Italy to be with her.

According to Ms Hodgson, "While some dating apps can bring out the worst behaviours, these other online spaces can do the opposite, because people are sharing something they enjoy."

Because of these structural elements, she doesn't think the recent decline in numbers is temporary. "It's going to keep happening until dating apps figure out how to put the human aspect back."

New kinds of dating app

The dating apps aren't giving up without a fight, however. Hinge is still "setting up a date every two seconds", according to a spokesperson; Tinder says a relationship starts every three seconds on its platform and that almost 60% of its users are aged 18-30. In fact, the apps appear to be embracing the shift to shared-interest platforms, launching niche alternatives including ones based around fitness, veganism, dog-ownership or even facial hair.

They're also evolving to encourage different kinds of interaction. On Breeze, users who agree to be set up on a date aren't allowed to message each other before they meet; and Jigsaw hides people's faces, only removing pieces to reveal the full photo after a certain amount of interaction.

It means that it's premature to proclaim the death of the dating app, believes Prof Heaphy. "There's now such a diversity of dating apps that the numbers for the biggest ones aren't the key indicator," he says. "It might actually be a similar number to before, in terms of overall membership."

And there's a downside to people going to more general-interest apps looking for love – people might not want to be hit on when they just want to talk about books. Dating apps, at least, are clear about what their purpose is.

What might the future look like?

In an increasingly online world, the solution to improving relationships might not simply be to go offline. Instead, apps that can offer an experience which more closely mirrors the best of IRL interactions, while tapping into the possibilities of digital ones, might also show a way forward.

With the imminent integration of AI into dating apps, we are "right on the cusp of something new", says Mr Brunning. "It's interesting to see if we'll end up with specific apps just for dating, or will we end up with something a bit more fluid?"

He points to platforms in China that are more multi-purpose. "People use them for chat, for community, and conduct business on them – they can also be dating platforms, but they're often not exclusively for that."

In the meantime, the interactions possible in less mediated communities like World of Warcraft could offer more of a chance to connect than conversations initiated by a swipe.

Jess and Nate's in-game engagement on the beach might not have been real, but the couple are hoping to change that soon. "It's a matter of when, really. There are a few things we need to tick off the checklist, and then she'll be getting her ring," says Nate. And there'll still be a gaming element.

"You can role-play getting married," says Jess. "So it could be funny to get all our friends together at some point in the World of Warcraft cathedral, and we could have a marriage ceremony."

Context: The guy from h3h3 recently posted his first video in three years attacking his former friend and cohost socialist streamer Hasan Piker. Did I watch it or care? Frick no. I don't really know what the video says but I came across this post where some other streamer points out how the video uses a doctored image from the Destiny subreddit to make a (false) point.

Anyways, the pinned comment I linked is this:

The clip in the post makes no mention of the word cracker, so on top of being aggravating janny "I'm serious" speak it is totally random. The replies to this comment point this out:

Calling someone a cracker isn't racist, but cracker is a racist slur. Or vice versa? It doesn't make sense.

Some people point out how the jannies of this subreddit b-word about flame wars but then pin shit like this which seems to exist purely to cause flame wars.

The janny double-downs and gets showered with downmarseys in response.

It's not okay to call someone Ritz instead of cracker because that is racist dog-whistling and just as offensive as saying cracker.

Someone mentions how they're leaving the subreddit and the janny responds cattily. Users point out how the janny felt the need to pin their thoughts on the word cracker when it wasn't asked.

Most of the replies look like this.

The janny says they are a social scientist working in race relations.

"I'm literally getting my PhD in this field. If you want proof, read literally the top most suggested and read book on racial relations printed in the 21st century."

Not white? Could have fooled me...

TL;DR: shut up, cracker

I'm a big fan of Irreversible. I also like enter the void and Love, although the latter was very amateurish. I admire his ambition and maximalism. What do you think?

highlights from this thread include:

https://old.reddit.com/r/rs_x/comments/1iksaim/comment/mbp3tmu/?context=8

yeah this super scary d&d nerd who wants to make america a monarchy is why you MUST vote blue no matter who

https://old.reddit.com/r/rs_x/comments/1iksaim/comment/mbp6o7s/?context=8

this very stable guy posts exclusively in rsp subs and /r/oldergenz

https://old.reddit.com/r/rs_x/comments/1iksaim/comment/mbpwbrg/?context=8

you have 30k comment karma in rsp subs over a few months

https://old.reddit.com/r/rs_x/comments/1iksaim/comment/mbp38tq/?context=8

redditor of 6 years calmed down because federal bureaucrats didn't quit

https://old.reddit.com/r/rs_x/comments/1iksaim/comment/mbpghly/?context=8

this cute twink actually unironically trotted out the "prep for tuesday" bit from /r/twoxpreppers lol

https://old.reddit.com/r/TwoXPreppers/comments/1go8o1g/prep_for_tuesday_not_doomsday_because_under/

https://old.reddit.com/r/rs_x/comments/1iksaim/comment/mbou456/?context=8

the usual callbacks to 2016-2020

https://old.reddit.com/r/rs_x/comments/1iksaim/comment/mbp5lbe/?context=8

autism man is going to use your social security number to launder money to buy video game items

its all so tiresome

Update 1:

I received a direct message via Reddit from someone holding the position "tech lead for Add-ons at Mozzarella". I will otherwise keep them anonymous. A quick google search of that position does not reveal their name. The individual does have an @mozzarella.com email address.

The individual in question invited me to provide troubleshooting information/Firef*x logs, to which I happily obliged. I will post any updates by appending this comment.

As an additional note, some commenters are suggesting using cowtools such as Revo Uninstaller or checking my registry. I am not a Windows user so this is not applicable.

Is this the answer? Mozzarella Furryfox will sync two daily drivers to info from two weeks ago?? (Probably not lmfao)

https://old.reddit.com/r/firef*x/comments/1iiagzr/removed_honey_after_the_controversy_this_morning/

Don't be a lameass Furryfox user, be brave! The browser that puts you first | Brave

REMEMBER YOUR OATH, BRAVE SOLDIERS!

"I'm feeling so defeated and depressed as a two fed family. I can't take much more of this."

"I have honestly cried most of the day today. ."

"I've been scared for myself and my friends/work family."

"I'm a middle school social studies teacher and everything I keep seeing just makes me think of 1930s Germany or 1950s Russia."

"I did not sign up to be customer service rep to die and compromise my health. I'm bordering suicidal and had to have my antidepressants upped today."

Jesus Christ, burgers, what the frick did Trump/Elon do?? Is this just about laying off federal employees??

link to the literal Command HQ of the Reddit army

🐞 #BeriArt @beribug.bsky.social

— thernz (@thernz.bsky.social) 2025-02-10T01:45:35.559Z

A Statement from U.S. Attorney for the District of Columbia, Edward R. Martin Jr. pic.twitter.com/XlEmzSlbBq

— U.S. Attorney DC (@USAO_DC) February 3, 2025

WANTED THE UPMARSEYS BEFORE Y'ALL REALIZED WILL EDIT WITH MORE INFO + DRAMA

This is what a burger would see before the app shutdown

Visiting TikTok in the US now leads to the following:

(website)

(app)

The ban relies on your tiktok account's region. Using a VPN won't do anything unless you're signed out.

Rising posts are a great place to find nice dramamines, it's currently full of ban screenshots but there's also gems like this:

https://old.reddit.com/r/rant/comments/1i4od06/the_fact_people_are_more_enraged_about_tik_tok/

VARIOUS DRAMAMINES:

https://old.reddit.com/r/Tiktokhelp/

https://old.reddit.com/r/TikTok/

https://old.reddit.com/r/TikTokCringe/

https://old.reddit.com/r/Tiktokhelp/comments/1i4pk5g/how_to_get_around_the_ban/ (links to a groomercord that supposedly teaches how to "get around the ban", not joining cuz r4 but ik some of y'all are secret groomercordians)

https://old.reddit.com/r/TikTok/comments/1i4nh5y/does_anyone_else_think_this_is_all_propaganda/

https://old.reddit.com/r/TikTok/comments/1i4fjd6/just_my_thoughts/ (doesn't talk bad about reddit for some reason )

Apple has removed TikTok from the U.S. App Store ‼️ pic.twitter.com/YFpa2g1BJ6

— Apple Hub (@theapplehub) January 19, 2025

BREAKING: TikTok has officially shut down in the US pic.twitter.com/vbxbiMwyJq

— Libs of TikTok (@libsoftiktok) January 19, 2025

🚨#BREAKING: TikTok has officially been banned and shut down in the United States.

📌#UnitedStates | #USA

Just moments ago, TikTok released a message to its users announcing that it has been officially banned and shut down in the United States. Upon opening the app, all 170+… pic.twitter.com/IJliuF5IVb

— R A W S A L E R T S (@rawsalerts) January 19, 2025

TikTok has officially shut down in the U.S. pic.twitter.com/jbgayWYUFo

— Dexerto (@Dexerto) January 19, 2025

Nature is healing pic.twitter.com/OMNTbObkZr

— Wall Street Mav (@WallStreetMav) January 19, 2025

TikTok has officially been banned in the U.S.😳‼️ pic.twitter.com/BsBfZJBHHa

— RapTV (@Rap) January 19, 2025

BRAND NEW UNTAPPED DRAMAMINES:

Breaking : CapCut has been shut down in the US TONIGHT after TikTok Banned pic.twitter.com/hNBg9jnKqU

— Raphousetv (RHTV) (@raphousetv2) January 19, 2025

TikTok has officially been removed from the App Store in the U.S.🇺🇸😳💔 pic.twitter.com/fCK0inALrd

— Raphousetv (RHTV) (@raphousetv2) January 19, 2025

🚨#BREAKING: Here are the following apps shut down in the United States tonight:
• TikTok
• CapCut
• Lemon8
• Gauth
• Hypic

— R A W S A L E R T S (@rawsalerts) January 19, 2025

https://t.co/CBXYNeC12Y

— R A W S A L E R T S (@rawsalerts) January 19, 2025

well tiktok is gone now 💔💔 pic.twitter.com/5676UcpKAy

— 🕐HOURLY🕑 shitpost (@hourly_shitpost) January 19, 2025

VARIOUS THINGS THAT I FOUND THAT I FIND FUNNY:

https://old.reddit.com/r/TikTokCringe/comments/1i4ph8x/the_last_video_i_got_to_watch/

They finally soyjakked the America is Fascist for banning TikTok girl pic.twitter.com/XAMxcwrF9F

— Spinachbrah 🥗 (@basedspinach) January 18, 2025

First Tik Tok now calculator app… this day can’t get any worse pic.twitter.com/MpURFLcOfA

— greg (@greg16676935420) January 19, 2025

MrBeast, Kai Cenat, and Soulja Boy failed to save TikTok. pic.twitter.com/d608wXy2wf

— DramaAlert (@DramaAlert) January 19, 2025

Unsurprisingly, all the bot nsfw tiktok subreddits are not talking about the ban.

!burgers !chuds !coomers !fartneighbors !g*mers !humans !pantspoopers !pinggrouplovers !pings !transphobes !wincels

my friend finds basically every girl his age who’s in decent shape attractive. this actually seems like the ideal way to be wired?

— Ava (@noampomsky) February 14, 2025

Turns out, the gender that can reproduce in 30 seconds instead of 9 months is wired to not be very picky when it comes to whom to frick.

pic.twitter.com/PJqRayF7PH

— 🇬🇧 𝙔𝙊𝙊𝙆𝘼𝙔 𝘼𝙀𝙎𝙏𝙃𝙀𝙏𝙄𝘾𝙎 🇬🇧 (@MythoYookay) February 17, 2025

!britbongs

!sophistry

ENHANCE

!chuds !transphobes he told the same joke with different doodles :3