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Old-ish cartoon from our friends over at /r/polandball.

https://old.reddit.com/r/polandball/comments/3p07zn/singaporemalaysia_relationship/

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:marseysingapore: You're not getting arrested for chewing gum here!!!!!!!!!! :!marseyraging:

https://i.rdrama.net/images/16841355101220982.webp

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chewing_gum_sales_ban_in_Singapore

:tayaaa: Just don't sell it

:#marseyseethe:

From https://www.commonsense.news/p/the-cynical-exploitation-of-brittney/comment/8917828

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:#marseymaoist: :#marseymaoist: :#marseymaoist:

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The Tale of Amos Yee, the first :marseysingapore: dramatard

Context:

For those unaware, Singapore is a little dot on the south on Malaysia. Because it's surrounded by pirate-ridden shitholes, it was widely expected that upon independence from Britain, it would sinkie to their level and be yet another Third-World shithole. However, Singapore went on to the be a rich and relatively powerful nation, which many credit to its mostly-benevolent quasi-dictator Lee Kuan Yew, who got Nicaragua-tier vote tallies in his time as a politician and had a devoted fanbase, to put it mildly. His timely death at 91 years of age in 2015 caused an outpouring of grief among his many supporters. In comes Amos...

Biography of a dramatard

The 17-year-old called Amos Moses Yee was a former tradcath turned atheist, who was terminally online before being terminally online was a thing, and seemed to think he was an American as a result of his only social interactions consisting of ranting for americans on Youtube.

This culminated on his publishing of a video titled... Lee Kuan Yew is Finally Dead! (I can't be bothered to find the original, this should be enough for you to get an idea):

After posting this video, Amos was remanded directly to jail, and while he wasn't at risk of being caned, he did find out the universal truth of talk shit, get hit:

He was found guilty of talking shit and went to jail a bunch of times, until in 2016 he fled to the US. For many years, he was the face of those oppressed by the PAP (Lee Kuan Yew's party) and continued to rant against the government until... his arrest over pedophilia charges. Yep.

In October 2020, Yee was arrested in Illinois on state charges of solicitation and possession of child pornography, after he allegedly exchanged nude photos and "thousands" of messages with a 14-year-old girl from Texas while he was living in Chicago via WhatsApp from February 1, 2019, to June 30, 2019.[29][30] His bail was set at US$1 million and he was banned from internet usage while awaiting trial.[204][205] After initially pleading not guilty to the charges in November 2020, Yee accepted a plea agreement in late 2021 where he pled guilty to two charges of child grooming and child pornography in exchange for a sentence of six years in prison, and having 16 other charges against him dropped. Yee was also warned that he may be deported back to Singapore and may be denied entry to the US in future, as well as potentially being denied naturalization as a U.S. citizen.[206][6][31][32] The sentence was backdated to when he was arrested, with him projected to be released on 8 October 2026.[207]

PAPchads keep winning I guess lmao

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this little hole belong to glorious china now

![](https://media.giphy.com/media/qNim5n3m3uU9QzAWO4/giphy.webp)

![](https://media.giphy.com/media/26Ffeqmcap0N65xVm/giphy.webp)

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AWW SHIT I'M GOING TO JAIL

TRY TO ARREST ME SEE WHAT HAPPENS

![](https://media.giphy.com/media/fkTCqluQgAjcaRtNcA/giphy.webp)

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:marseysingapore: Annoying tropical climate :!marseyrain:

I wish we had some nice fall weather too :marseycry::!marseyautumn:

Just trying to prevent the hole from being y'alled due to inactivity, sorry for the blogpost :marseysingaporepat:

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@X (formerly chiobu) please respond, this is very important

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:#marseysingapore::#marseymiku::#marseycoomer:

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:marseyinbread: Saw this browsing my supermarket's website :!marseyblackface:

So my wife was saying that she wanted some chocolate twinkies thingy so I went and googled for it and nooooticed something :!marseyblackface:

If you don't believe me: https://coldstorage.com.sg/twiggies-choc-a-lot-2s-5000431 (https://archive.ph/UaEhB)

Someone made a random unwrapping video of it:

Sadly Thankfully I wasn't able to find it at the supermarket :!marseysweating:

https://i.rdrama.net/images/16841356195709567.webp

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:marlion: Singapore's Sky-High Car Prices Are a Warning for Global Hustle & Bustlecels :marseyseethe:

:#!marlion: :marseyinvisible: :marseyinvisible::#marseysteer: :marseyinvisible: :marseyinvisible::#marseysingapore:

I think it's paywalled so here's the unpaywalled link: https://archive.ph/XjCi6

Singapore media professional Ellie Lim gave up her plan to buy a new Volvo SUV to ferry her newborn baby when she realized it was going to cost her more than S$200,000 ($142,000).

"I was quite shocked," said Lim, 34. Coupled with high interest rates on car loans, fuel prices and maintenance fees, buying a new car is "a financially unsound decision," she said. Why would you spend the cost of an apartment from the government's Housing & Development Board for a rapidly depreciating asset? "These are all like HDB flats running on the road."

Lim's lament is a common one in Singapore, which strictly controls the number of vehicles on its roads by forcing buyers to bid for a limited quota of permits, making its autos among the most expensive in the world. Last month, pent-up consumer demand and a growing appetite for electric vehicles pushed the price of those permits to yet another record. But Singapore's model of making cars a luxury, balanced by spending billions on a ubiquitous and efficient public transport system, is beginning to look less crazy as other global cities try to build more sustainable infrastructure.

"If you're a city urban planner, you'd look at Singapore," said Song Seng Wun, an economist at CIMB Private Banking. It's "one of the only cities that can keep its car population down. You can't build more roads without taking space and resources from others, so if you want to drive, pay."

Singapore's government controls traffic growth with a series of quotas and taxes that can push up the on-the-road cost of a car to five times the wholesale price in the country of manufacture. The biggest levy is the Certificate of Entitlement, which is set in a twice-monthly auction. The COE gives the right to run a vehicle for 10 years in Singapore. Once it expires, you either have to scrap or export the car, or buy another COE.

https://i.rdrama.net/images/1684136067541854.webp

Today, bidding in the top category rose to a record S$110,524. Rates are likely to remain elevated until at least the end of 2022, according to economists and dealers.

"With more people back to work in offices and resilient household balance sheets, demand for big-ticket items like cars has rebounded," said Selena Ling, Head of Treasury Research & Strategy at Oversea-Chinese Banking Corp. in Singapore. "It is challenging to call the top for now."

Singapore's Land Transport Authority said COEs are allocated via a market based mechanism. "The recent high prices are a natural outcome of the high demand, which has been sustained since 2H 2020," the LTA said in an email.

Singapore is able to implement such an expensive car-ownership program partly because it's a small island that has only two road links to neighboring Malaysia. Most big cities have large hinterlands and more traffic running in and out of the city, so they have to rely on other mechanisms to curb growth, such as road pricing and vehicle restrictions.

"Issuing COE-like ownership permits in order to eventually restrict the car population may be a bridge too far for most cities," said Chua Soon Ghee, a partner at AT Kearney. "What typically works better is providing more attractive alternatives to car usage such as improving public transportation or allocating more of the road to bicycles or pedestrians, and making car usage more expensive and inconvenient."

London, for example, charges drivers 15 pounds ($17.87) a day to enter the central zone during the week, compared with a top rush-hour fee of S$3 for the Singapore CBD, before rates were reduced temporarily because of the pandemic. New York is planning to adopt a similar system next year.

But increasingly, urban planners are advocating that the real solution to the pollution and waste from automobiles is simply to have fewer of them. Even all-electric vehicles use up resources and energy, usually to move just one person. A shift from private car ownership to flexible urban autonomous public transport systems has fueled predictions that the world is close to peak car ownership, an idea that meshes with Singapore's restriction on growth.

For most Singaporeans, that means sticking to public transport, taking taxis or using ride-hailing or car-sharing services.

"You don't need to own a vehicle in Singapore," said Walter Theseira, associate professor at the Singapore University of Social Sciences. "Unrestrained growth in the vehicle population would lead to a ridiculous amount of congestion."

The city added 1,000 buses and 200 trains in the decade to 2021, and is building three new subway lines to ensure that 80% of households will be within 10 minutes' walk of a station. All told, the government said it plans to spend more than S$60 billion on the rail network this decade. Each year, it also spends about S$2 billion on subsidizing bus and train fares.

Despite packing 5 million people onto an island half the size of London, Singapore ranked 96 out of 416 cities globally in the TomTom traffic congestion index in 2019, the year before Covid disrupted transport. Last year, it was 88th out of 404.

Still, Singapore's higher vehicle costs come with risks. Among them, soaring car costs can reduce the city's competitiveness in luring international talent. The island was already the second-most-expensive place in Asia for expats to live and work after Hong Kong, according to Mercer's most recent Cost of Living Survey.

Other costs are also rising as Singapore feels the effects of global inflation. Private home rents have skyrocketed and food prices were up 4.5% in May from a year earlier. Most Singaporeans are experiencing increases above the official inflation index and expect price pressures to continue for the next year, according to a survey by DBS Group.

https://i.rdrama.net/images/16841360678657825.webp

For customer service executive G Dharshen, the rising costs mean he's had to give up owning a car as the COE for his old Toyota Corolla Altis expired in May and he couldn't afford to replace it.

"It was just not worth it," said Dharshen, 27. He said even a second-hand car was not an option as sellers have increased prices in response to the growing cost of new vehicles.

One encouraging sign is that the government has begun offering incentives to switch to hybrid or electric vehicles. The LTA said it will add 12,000 charging stations in public housing car parks by 2025 and have 60,000 nationwide by 2030.

"Preferences are now trending toward electric-vehicle and hybrid-car models," said Steven Teo, a managing director at car distributor Trans Eurokars Pte Ltd. Authorities in May reclassified electric vehicles with a power rating of up to 110 kilowatts into a more affordable COE category.

Meanwhile, some would-be car owners like Ellie Lim are biding their time in the hopes that prices will eventually ease off. A "weaker global outlook is likely to damp demand," said Bloomberg Economics' Tamara Henderson.

Lim currently takes taxis or borrows her father's car. "You have no choice but to put up with inconvenience for now, praying that the prices will come down," she said. "But it looks like they're still rising. There are a lot of Singaporeans who can part with the money."


And no, the roads are STILL congested :marseytrollcrazy::marseytrollcrazy::marseytrollcrazy:

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:marseysingapore: Redditors react to Singapore's execution of an "intellectually disabled" drug trafficker :!marseysoyrope:

					
					

tl;dr - The "intellectually disabled" claim was probably faked

Tbh I used to think that we were way too strict on the drug laws but my opinions probably shifted from seeing one too many @911roofer homeless posts... :marseyretard2:

:#marseypoor:

It does feels a bit like reddit's not as antagonistic towards Singapore executing drug traffickers, I wonder why? :marseyhmm:

Malaysian drug offender Nagaenthran K Dharmalingam, who is on death row, was noted by the High Court to be "continuously altering his account of his education qualifications", said the Ministry of Home Affairs (MHA) on Friday (Nov 5).

He did so "ostensibly to reflect lower educational qualifications each time he was interviewed", added the ministry.

The ministry said the High Court had assessed the evidence of psychiatrists who agreed that Nagaenthran was not intellectually disabled. This included a psychiatrist called by the defence, on behalf of Nagaenthran.

"The High Court considered the facts, expert evidence from four different psychiatric/psychological experts, and further submissions by the Prosecution and the Defence. The High Court held that Nagaenthran knew what he was doing, and upheld the sentence of death," said MHA.

https://www.channelnewsasia.com/singapore/drug-trafficker-malaysian-nagaenthran-death-sentence-education-mha-2294621


Post on the execution: https://old.reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/ucvh7u/malaysian_man_with_intellectual_disability/

Malaysian man with intellectual disability executed in Singapore over drug trafficking charges

The death of Nagaenthran K. Dharmalingam has been described as a tragic miscarriage of justice after being executed over trafficking 43 grams of heroin.

A Malaysian man has been executed in Singapore on Wednesday after his mother's last-ditch appeal to spare his life was dismissed.

Nagaenthran K. Dharmalingam was arrested in 2009 for trafficking 43 grams of heroin into Singapore and was placed on death row for more than a decade.

His execution sparked widespread criticism as his supporters said he had an IQ of 69, a level recognised as a disability, and was coerced into committing the crime.

"It is unbelievable that Singapore proceeded with the execution despite international appeals to spare his life," his sister Sarmila Dharmalingam said.

The 34-year-old was executed in the early hours, she said from Malaysia, leaving her family "extremely saddened" and "in a state of shock".

Nagaenthran spent more than a decade mounting legal challenges, but they were dismissed by Singapore's courts, and the city-state's president rejected appeals for clemency.

His body will be brought back to the Malaysian city of Ipoh for burial, his sister said.

Singaporean authorities did not respond to requests for comment.

https://www.sbs.com.au/news/article/malaysian-man-with-intellectual-disability-executed-in-singapore-over-drug-trafficking-charges/0wgvignh4


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:marseysingapore: r/singapore sneeds as Authorised Covid Snitches are filmed measuring if people are sitting 1 metre apart in 2022 :!marseyvaxmaxx:

					
					

https://i.rdrama.net/images/16841361362223308.webp

SDAs are Safe Distancing Ambassadors or fricking snitches that are employed by the Singapore Government to ensure Covid safety measures, and they were filmed in a restaurant measuring if the seats were a safe distance apart :!marseytrollcrazy::!marseytrollcrazy::!marseytrollcrazy:

Nobody really likes them because they're like IRL jannies who can annoy the heck out of you or your businesses by taking pictures of you or your workplace to send to the giga jannies

https://i.rdrama.net/images/16841361373587596.webp

Next are the Safe Distancing Enforcement Officers or IRL giga jannies who have the legal rights to:

  • At any time without warrant and with such force as may be necessary, stop, board, enter, inspect and search any premises or conveyance

  • Require any person to furnish any information within his knowledge

  • Demand that any person provide his or her name and address and other proof of identity

Prior to this incident there have been controversial cases involving the jannies or giga jannies:

1. Giga Jannies inspecting some dude's home without a warrant: https://www.todayonline.com/singapore/ura-refutes-man-who-claimed-warrant-needed-authorities-inspect-homes-potential-covid-19

2. Ex-military woman filmed scolding a janny when a janny told her to wear a mask: https://www.asiaone.com/singapore/woman-who-challenged-sda-mbs-shows-court-without-mask

Probably more but I can't recall/Stockholm Syndrome

https://i.rdrama.net/images/1684136138128292.webp

:!#marseytrollcrazy::!#marseytrollcrazy::!#marseytrollcrazy:

THEIR RED ARM BANDS ARE NOT THE NAZI ARM BANDS IF YOU'RE ASKING

Apart from those snitches/jannies most places here require you to be vaxxed and though it's not officially a vaccine mandate, without it you pretty much can't enter almost everywhere, malls, restaurants, offices, you know the drill. Yes, we need to be boosted :!marseygigavaxxer:

https://onecms-res.cloudinary.com/image/upload/s--4l1_FQqY--/f_auto,q_auto/c_fill,g_auto,h_676,w_1200/new-safeentry-gateway-for-tracetogether-token-3.jpg?itok=x4jXsqwC

https://c.tenor.com/YsssGoMQa-QAAAAC/welcome-to-singapore-welcome.gif

Edit: Yes we still have an indoor and outdoor mask mandate :!marseytrollcrazy:

We jailed & deported a bong who insisted on not wearing one because he was a sovereign citizen or some shit - https://old.reddit.com/r/news/comments/p6qk9e/benjamin_glynn_caught_for_not_wearing_a_mask/

Edit: there was an episode of a show where they sent mayo kids here lol

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:marseysingapore: Lmao I just can’t imagine people here in Singapore would protest by vodka :marseytruck:

Love the “liberate” tagline too :marseyderp:

Sorry for shit posting, grocery shopping can be :marseyyawn:

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:marseysingapore: literally :marsoy::marseynintendo::!marsoy: but the whole apartment with poorcels coping :!marseyseethe:

					
					

i saw that view and thought it looked familiar

https://i.rdrama.net/images/16841351290860887.webp https://i.rdrama.net/images/16841351298036556.webp

https://i.rdrama.net/images/16841351303757408.webp https://i.rdrama.net/images/16841351309291914.webp

and yes it's a fellow Singaporean

https://i.rdrama.net/images/16841351315157237.webp

wish you would have dunked on the plebbitors instead of this

https://i.rdrama.net/images/16841351318876748.webp

:#marlion:

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:!marlion::marseysingapore: :marlion:

![](http://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/191212182124-04-singapore-buildings.jpg)

:#marseysingapore:

:#marlion:

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tl;dr - coomer couldn't afford whores, so he pretended to be a pimp to "test" the goods, got sentenced to jail, appealed, judge doubled sentence

https://old.reddit.com/r/nottheonion/comments/r6bnu0/he_asked_for_a_shorter_jail_term_after_lying_to/

not your typical drama i guess, just found the story rather funny and his pretentious name (De Beers) even more so. that kind of name over here would be the equivalent of what a burger would call trashy, even more so when he looks like the typical hoodlum found here. it's common knowledge not to appeal your sentences over here if you don't have a case because the judge WILL BTFO you for it

  • De Beers Wong Tian Jun jail term was increased from 3.5 years to 8 years and 5 months
  • Wong had appealed to get his earlier sentence lowered
  • Chief Justice Sundaresh Menon warned him at the start of the appeal that he might enhance the sentence
  • Delivering his judgement, Chief Justice Menon said Wong’s behaviour had placed him in the “very highest range of both harm and culpability”

The Chief Justice of Singapore has thrown out an appeal by a man who wanted a shorter jail sentence, after he was convicted of tricking 11 victims into giving him free s*x while posing as an agent for rich "sugar daddies".

Instead, Chief Justice Sundaresh Menon more than doubled De Beers Wong Tian Jun’s jail sentence on Wednesday (Dec 1) from 3.5 years to 8 years and 5 months. The previous fine of S$20,000 remains unchanged.

Wong, a Singaporean now aged 39, was initially sentenced on April 20 after he pleaded guilty the month before to 10 charges of cheating, criminal intimidation and making an obscene film.

On Sept 24, he tried to appeal for a shorter jail term.

Previous media reports stated that Wong had deceived his victims between April 2015 and January 2016.

Unable to afford the prices listed in online s*x advertisements, Wong hatched a plan, putting out his own advertisement to trick women into giving him free s*x and nude photographs.

He claimed to be a freelance agent with wealthy clients willing to pay escorts up to S$20,000 a month for sexual services.

He told the women that in order for these clients to determine their suitability for such “sugar daddy” arrangements, they had to send him their nude photographs, have their nude photos taken or have s*x with him. He also filmed some of the s*x acts.

In all, he deceived at least 11 victims aged between 18 and 24. One began suffering anxiety attacks after they met.

‘BEREFT OF REMORSE’

In delivering his judgement on Wednesday, Chief Justice Menon said that at the hearing of the appeal, he had specifically informed the parties involved in the case that it was possible he might enhance the sentence, even though prosecution had not argued for a higher sentence.

He said that having examined all the facts and circumstances, he was satisfied that Wong’s behaviour had placed him in the “very highest range of both harm and culpability”.

He also said that Wong had procured unprotected penetrative s*x with many victims over an extended period of time, and did so in a manner that was “brazenly exploitative and bereft of remorse”.

Wong’s offending demonstrated a cynical premediation and he had concocted a “web of lies in which to ensnare his victims”.

He added that Wong’s offence of cheating to procure s*x are “exceptionally serious, and could in fact have been prosecuted as r*pe”.

“There was no doubt in my mind that the appellant's behaviour warrants the highest bracket of sentencing starting points.”

it should not be assumed that cases where the offender has pleaded guilty, as Wong did, should automatically have a lower sentence, Chief Justice Menon said.

“There is little mitigating value in pleading guilty when the proverbial game is up.”

PSYCHIATRIC REPORT UNHELPFUL

Turning to a psychiatric report that had been submitted by Wong’s lawyers, Chief Justice Menon said that it “could not, even with the utmost charity, be viewed as an expert report”.

Broadly, the psychiatric report concluded that Wong was suffering from an adjustment disorder with depressive symptoms at the time of the offences and it suggested that the symptoms were “likely to have contributed to his offending behaviour”.

Chief Justice Menon took issue with the report for two reasons.

First, he noted that the report itself acknowledges that it is predicated entirely on the truthfulness of the information Wong provided.

“This is problematic because as it turns out, the account the appellant provided was riven with falsehoods, which go towards (the psychiatrist’s) specific conclusions.”

Wong persisted in lying to the psychiatrist about wanting to “refer the rest (of the girls he met) to his clients”, when there were never any “clients” at all to speak of.

Second, he noted Wong consulted the psychiatrist only at the end of 2020, more than four years after the time of the offences.

There was no reasoning in the psychiatric report explaining how the psychiatrist was able to extrapolate his conclusions, based on consultations held in 2020, as to what Wong was suffering from some five years before.

“In sum, the psychiatric evidence relied on by the appellant is wholly unhelpful. There was nothing in the psychiatric report that warrants any weight being placed on it,” he said.

He granted Wong’s request to start his sentence on Jan 10 next year, which will give him time to attend medical appointments for a stroke he suffered earlier this year.

For each cheating charge, Wong could have been jailed for up to three years or fined, or punished with both.

For criminal intimidation, he could have been jailed for up to two years or fined, or both.

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in case reddit thread gets y'alled: https://archive.md/c9IaF

News article on incident: https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/politics/wp-mp-raeesah-khan-referred-to-parliament-privileges-committee-for-lying-about

I've whined complained about her here a few times for trying to bring "woke" politics here and referenced this incident so I feel a bit vindicated that she has probably set back the SJW types here a lot with this latest development :marseylaugh: :marseysmug:

https://rdrama.net/post/20473/marseydisagree-trains-get-mad-because-a/531364/?context=10#context

tl;dr background - daughter of one of the richest man in singapore gets elected via the minority route as a group of politicians, unironically calls herself an intersectional feminist and lists a marxist as her favourite author, loves playing idpol bullshit and went too far when she made false allegations of the police here mishandling a r*pe case

https://i.rdrama.net/images/16841361883716598.webp

Redditor here probably sums up sentiments about her 3 months ago well

https://i.rdrama.net/images/16841361887446325.webp

https://www.reddit.com/r/singapore/comments/op1z22/raeesah_khans_push_for_tougher_conversations_on/h638wp3/

sorry for posting rather niche asian drama but lol probably an example of people trying a woke brand of politics they might have seen in the west and failing hilariously in their attempts :marseylaugh: you know you've fricked up when your most ardent defenders on reddit admit you've fricked up :marseylaugh:

i may laugh but i actually voted for the party she's in so I'm a bit of this Marsey too

https://rdrama.net/e/marseyseethe.webp

but of course i'm glad she probably set back any woke agendas here hahahahahaha

https://rdrama.net/e/marseysjw.webp https://rdrama.net/e/marseyshooting.webp

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TIL 🚩🚩🚩 was a trend

edit: false accusation's a problem here because recently a man was cleared of sexual assault charges after spending almost half a million and 4 years to fight it, and the identity of the accuser is still sealed and no repercussions for her for perjury (https://todayonline.com/singapore/doctor-acquitted-molestation-charges-tells-humiliating-painful-experience)

An influencer made a controversial suggestion via a TikTok video on Sunday (Oct. 17): a group chat for girls in Singapore to discuss their experiences with guys on dating apps, as well as an excel sheet to collate information.

The idea was apparently executed shortly after, in the form of a Telegram group chat and a Google Sheet, which collated names of individuals, short write-ups of their alleged misdeeds, and even links to their social media profiles.

This happened even while a flurry of comments and reactions were still streaming in on the original TikTok post, both for and against the suggestion.

Group chat would "save everybody some time"

Koh Boon Ki, the influencer who first mooted the idea and a recent pharmacy graduate from the National University of Singapore, explained in her TikTok post that a group chat for women on dating apps to discuss their male counterparts would "save everybody some time", since most people were likely talking to the same dating app matches.

They would thus be able to share information about potential dates to save each other the trouble of "finding out the red flags" on their own, Koh said.

"Imagine the Excel sheet we can make", she added.

In the caption of her post, Koh asked for her viewers' thoughts, and remarked that "the guys have worse tele groups anyway".

The post attracted both support and criticism.

Support for the idea

Those in favour of the idea pointed to the truth of Koh's caption that "guys have worse tele groups".

There were also several users who said that they would be happy to share their past experiences for others' benefit.

Many appeared to be asking for a link to join the group, or for an update when the group was actually created.

Other supporters suggested that Google docs could be used for the purpose so that contributions could be accepted from "everyone".

Criticism of the idea

However, many voiced concerns about such an initiative, saying that there was potential for biased or false accusations to be made anonymously, as it would be difficult to verify some of the claims made.

Another critique of the idea was that it did not leave room for people who had genuinely changed for the better.

Others said that something similar, where guys discussed their experiences with girls, would definitely be unacceptable.

The risk of things escalating into harassment and defamation were also raised as reasons why the idea should not be carried out.

Group chat and Google sheet appear

Hours later, links to a Telegram group chat and a Google sheet were circulated on messaging apps and social media in the evening on Oct. 17.

The Google sheet was titled, "Dating Guide SG", and had two separate tabs labelled "Blacklist" and "Avoid", and each tab contained fields for names, reasons why they were listed, as well as links to their social media profiles.

The reasons provided were quite varied, and included accounts of sexual assault, abuse, voyeurism, and infidelity on the "Blacklist" tab.

On the "Avoid" tab, other misdemeanours were listed, including staying on multiple dating apps while dating someone, being "desperate asf" and clingy, sending inappropriate sexual messages, only talking about themselves or cryptocurrency, or even being an "avid g*mer".

Viewers of the sheet were able to remain anonymous to one another.

"What if the guy got falsely accused?"

One recipient of a link to the Google sheet took to TikTok, calling it "toxic".

"yes girls shud unite together, esp against trashy guys but like this is q toxic imo cuz what if the guy got falsely accused..💀" wrote a TikToker in her TikTok post's caption.

This, however, did not deter commenters from seeking out a link to the document, with many asking for it so that they could share their own experiences.

The sheet appeared to have been taken offline sometime in the late evening on Oct. 17, however.

Meanwhile, a Telegram group chat titled "f*ing 🚩🚩🚩" gained over 100 followers.

Conversations in the group included the sharing of experiences with particular guys, similar to what was found in the Google sheet.

The group appears to have been closed down as of Oct. 18.

The name of the group is an apparent reference to a recent trend where social media users share examples of what they consider to be red flags in various interpersonal interactions, accompanied by the "🚩" emoji.

Koh's original suggestion, as well as a similar Telegram group, apparently named "sg dating adventures ☕", was spotlighted by TikTok user @g1ennice, who said that it was a "great idea" in theory, that she predicted would "go south really really fast" as the group grew.

She acknowledged that men had created groups like SG Nasi Lemak, where explicit photos were shared, often without consent, but contended that creating a group chat for girls to talk about their experiences with guys could seem hypocritical, when much had been done to stand against the practice of guys talking about their experiences with girls.

She said:

"Creating such a damaging group chat, even when it's not on the same level, it just makes it seem like we are condoning this behaviour because we are doing something similar."

She also highlighted the potential for innocent guys to be falsely accused using doctored screenshots, while not having the opportunity to defend themselves.

"I think it's important [for girls] to stick together and be a strong community, [but] not in this way," she said.

It is not clear whether Koh was the creator of either group.

However, on her Instagram page (@bimbiboon), Koh posted a story on Oct. 17 at around 3pm, saying that she was "now a GC [Group Chat] admin".

An update on Oct. 18 at around 3am stated that the group was "now closed", along with the statement that "talking about guys is as problematic as talking to them".

https://mothership.sg/2021/10/dating-guide-sg-circulating/

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🇸🇬 Marsey the Merlion says hello from Singapore! 🇸🇬

Marlion maybe?

https://www.straitstimes.com/multimedia/graphics/2021/08/singapore-merlion-real-anatomy/i/intro-proposed/1.jpg?v=62dce0b6

https://i.rdrama.net/images/1684126787176521.webp

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Subreddit of liberal arts college seethe and does not allow the rationalizing of its imminent closure

https://old.reddit.com/r/YaleNUS/comments/pmoz05/will_not_tolerate_discussion_that_rationalises/

i hope it's bait but idk, drewiepoodle was from Singapore so maybe there's a pattern

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