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At 2024-07-02T16:53:06+00:00 on AntiTrumpAlliance with a score of 2 points:
The SCOTUS decision by Roberts is widely grieved because it sets into sharp relief that there is no legal precedent to distinguish between what is an Impeachable High Crime and Misdemeanour (which the Constitution provides impeachment of the President over) versus Official Acts For Which The President Cannot Be Prosecuted (as composed as a class of acts under this new opinion), and so there is nothing in precedential case law that says that a given assassination order / action or class of assassination actions as ordered by a sitting POTUS is an Impeachable High Crime and Misdemeanour or is an Official Act.
The opinion also appears to make it impossible to take actions to determine which the given act is, as per Justice Roberts, anything touching the scope of official duties can't be introduced as prosecutorial evidence.
So people are saying this ruling gives carte blanche to sitting presidents to assassinate political rivals and dare anyone to jump through the hoops to hold him/her accountable for it.
Whether or not such an assassination would be legal is also an unsettled question.
Edit to add: I believe that the ruling continues to allow the remedy of
POTUS does something awful
Congress impeaches and removes
Person who was POTUS now criminally liable for impeached crimes
But that's one of the big problems β
No one has been successfully impeached in over 100 years; experts call it a "dead letter law", and has been used appropriately only on Nixon and on Trump in our lifetime (neither of which carried through, in Nixon's case because he had a sliver of conscience and in Trump's case because he captured Congress), with all other invocations being political harassment.
Trump promises to be Dictator on Day One.
America either sees the Constitution fall this November or rejects that, electorally.
Which will require an overwhelming electoral turnout by people voting for the Democratic nominee, to overcome electoral vote leverage gerrymandering by the GOP.
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At 2024-07-02T16:53:06+00:00 on AntiTrumpAlliance with a score of 2 points:
The opinion also appears to make it impossible to take actions to determine which the given act is, as per Justice Roberts, anything touching the scope of official duties can't be introduced as prosecutorial evidence.
So people are saying this ruling gives carte blanche to sitting presidents to assassinate political rivals and dare anyone to jump through the hoops to hold him/her accountable for it.
Whether or not such an assassination would be legal is also an unsettled question.
Edit to add: I believe that the ruling continues to allow the remedy of
POTUS does something awful
Congress impeaches and removes
Person who was POTUS now criminally liable for impeached crimes
But that's one of the big problems β
No one has been successfully impeached in over 100 years; experts call it a "dead letter law", and has been used appropriately only on Nixon and on Trump in our lifetime (neither of which carried through, in Nixon's case because he had a sliver of conscience and in Trump's case because he captured Congress), with all other invocations being political harassment.
Trump promises to be Dictator on Day One.
America either sees the Constitution fall this November or rejects that, electorally.
Which will require an overwhelming electoral turnout by people voting for the Democratic nominee, to overcome electoral vote leverage gerrymandering by the GOP.
Jump in the discussion.
No email address required.
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