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Ms. Penny Oaken, SkyWitch (@skywitches.net):
Tomorrow, having a talk with my Fox News addicted MAGA father, who retired from the Army in the 1980's
I'm certain he will be thrilled
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Katelyn Burns (@transscribe.bsky.social):
Please i beg, with the influx of new followers i need the ability to limit my notifications to people who follow me or who i follow. Its the only thing that made having a large account dealable on twitter.
Ms. Penny Oaken, SkyWitch (@skywitches.net):
There's a gear ⚙️ on the top right of the notifications pane that should get you an option to only receive notifications from people you follow, and a promise of more settings to come / disclaimer of experimental status
Katelyn Burns (@transscribe.bsky.social):
Yeah i saw that. Not exactly what im looking for
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Matthew Cortland (they) (@matthewcort.land):
please @bsky.app we need this
Ms. Penny Oaken, SkyWitch (@skywitches.net):
Gear ⚙️ icon, upper right on the Notifications pane, should get you the option to limit to Priority notifications only
activist_angel (@activistangel.bsky.social):
Just did. Thank you. We'll see how it works.
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Ms. Penny Oaken, SkyWitch (@skywitches.net):
Hindutva was the second leading ethnosupremacist hate ideology on Reddit after White Identity Extremism.
There were subreddits that openly planned violent terrorism against Pakistanis & Muslims, that never got reported on in the mainstream press.
Ms. Penny Oaken, SkyWitch (@skywitches.net):
The Hindustani & Urdu & Hinglish speakers on Reddit never reported violent hate speech & harassment in those subreddits, either — but, when the Perspective API started to cover Hindi & Hinglish, those subs' toxicity dropped like a rock & subreddits got closed, b/c of automated enforcement
Ms. Penny Oaken, SkyWitch (@skywitches.net):
Perspective is the "exception": Ethical and Accurate Use of AI — by training an LLM on content removed & classified by human moderators, the trolls trained AI to detect their toxic speech and behaviour. And, perfectly ethical, since the speech violated the AUPs, & Equity Serves Clean Hands.
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Ms. Penny Oaken, SkyWitch (@skywitches.net):
Absolutely Not Kidding — The Trump campaign and his picks for Cabinet are very much like /r/The_Donald, which was spun up by an MRA & 2 years into his administration, was collaborating with literal neoNazis to try to take over the site from the bottom, running off all other subreddit moderators
Ms. Penny Oaken, SkyWitch (@skywitches.net):
Some of what I've written before about T_D
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Ms. Penny Oaken, SkyWitch (@skywitches.net):
And some evidence that the Russians were helping astroturf GOP hate messaging on Reddit, including anti-transgender hatred
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Ms. Penny Oaken, SkyWitch (@skywitches.net):
Everything we saw in the 2024 Trump campaign and now in his policies comes straight out of 2017 era /r/the_donald & Reddit hate subs
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Ms. Penny Oaken, SkyWitch (@skywitches.net):
I live in a suburb of Dallas that has a House district that is literally gerrymandered to stretch out into the deeply bigoted and Republican stretches of East Texas, making it impossible for me to get real representation.
Charlotte Freeman (@cmf406.bsky.social):
I live in Montana, where we're currently experiencing this on a statewide basis.
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Dr. Antje Gamble (@drantjegamble.bsky.social):
Color me (not) surprised.
Ms. Penny Oaken, SkyWitch (@skywitches.net):
Oh hey there is a Grima Wormtongue in this story
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Alex Kaplan (@alkapdc.bsky.social):
Tulsi Gabbard, Trump's nominee for Director of National Intelligence, has apparently been working with the conspiracy theorist behind one of the most viral pieces of COVID misinformation content during the COVID pandemic.
Ms. Penny Oaken, SkyWitch (@skywitches.net):
Oh goody, Alex Jones is going to be their Riefenstahl
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Alex Kaplan (@alkapdc.bsky.social):
Tulsi Gabbard, Trump's nominee for Director of National Intelligence, has apparently been working with the conspiracy theorist behind one of the most viral pieces of COVID misinformation content during the COVID pandemic.
MindyfoFindy (@mindyfofindy.bsky.social):
AAARGH. How is it these morons are able to amplify their nonsense over trusted, proven science?
Ms. Penny Oaken, SkyWitch (@skywitches.net):
"Science is hard and boring" vs "Circuses are fun"
Box of Frogs (@boxoffrogs.bsky.social):
Science is hard and fun.
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Ms. Penny Oaken, SkyWitch (@skywitches.net):
Any of my followers members of the International Brotherhood of Electrical Workers?
There's a network of inauthentic propaganda accounts on Reddit targeting /r/IBEW with anti-union talking points. It has the same signature as a network that is targeting progressives against organising against Trump.
5gCovidCat (@covidcat.bsky.social):
There's a shitton of weird propaganda accounts popping up on reddit since the election. I had my feed carefully curated to avoid right-wing bullshit, but it's in every political sub and most of the personal drama subs right now.
Ms. Penny Oaken, SkyWitch (@skywitches.net):
Usually they're 2 months old with <1K karma and commenting 2-4 times in specific subreddits, laddering up through them in sequence.
It's a formula that got popular with astroturfers in 2018
5gCovidCat (@covidcat.bsky.social):
Yep.
I should have mentioned that I've had that particular sub pop up in my feed because of the right-wing bullshit the last few days, when it's never shown up there before.
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Anna Phylaxis (@quatoria.bsky.social):
aw heck bud, you can't afford food?
maybe you could take a page from the policy of your administration towards the unhoused, and starve on the streets, then?
Ms. Penny Oaken, SkyWitch (@skywitches.net):
Lol his idea of food is a $250 steak dinner
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Charles Johnson (@charles.littlegreenfootballs.com):
Veritasium: The Quest To Make Unbreakable Glass #blogpost
Ms. Penny Oaken, SkyWitch (@skywitches.net):
Bookends perfectly with his video on East German unbreakable glass pints
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Emma Cumslutress 🏳️⚧️ (@cumslutress.love):
i dare stovey to try and bring back the "like every post" bit now
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"Recently Juiced" Garak Tailor (She/They) (@comfortingmoo.online):
That's a Nazi.
Marcel Proust of Eating Kitty (@thotchev.bsky.social):
One iron cross was not enough I guess
liv (@livfreeorcry.gay):
that one's actually... honestly so much weirder than just a bunch of iron crosses. like i don't want to say "worse" but what level of batshit fascist do you have to be on to get the flag of the crusader kingdom of jerusalem tattooed on your chest?
Ms. Penny Oaken, SkyWitch (@skywitches.net):
Jerusalem Cross; Reversed (and badly rendered) American Flag With Military Rifle; Deus Vult in a Blackletter script …
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Mac McGill (@maddmac.bsky.social):
I'm not even entirely sure why but the announcement about Gaetz just devastated me.
Feel pretty hopeless at the moment.
Ms. Penny Oaken, SkyWitch (@skywitches.net):
Attorney General Butthead and Heir Apparent Beavis
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𝗷𝘂𝗻𝗼 𝘀𝘁𝘂𝗺𝗽 . (@juno.bsky.social):
LMAOOOOO
Ms. Penny Oaken, SkyWitch (@skywitches.net):
I guess the doorbell's wired to his adrenal glands huh
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Faine Greenwood (@faineg.bsky.social):
we did have the mayo and genocide incident (among many others)
🏳️⚧️Valkyrie Eleison (@anitmata.bsky.social):
Wait
Did you take a screenie 12 sec after this guy posted it
Ms. Penny Oaken, SkyWitch (@skywitches.net):
Reflexes honed by years in the shitposting mines
🏳️⚧️Valkyrie Eleison (@anitmata.bsky.social):
I know he could have just opened the skeet after 12 seconds but 'reflexes honed in the shitposting mines' is my headcanon now
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Captain Subaru Cran Berry blast: the falafel lobbyist (@coolranch4lyfe.bsky.social):
Nah the Uk Labour Party has been worse on trans rights quite frankly
And the increase of anti trans bills in the u.s is mainly republicans
Elisabeth (@neuroticlesbian.bsky.social):
People are living in an alternate reality
James Bennett (@ubernostrum.bsky.social):
I remember on Twitter there was someone who apparently was a journ*list at a large outlet — I want to say MSNBC — who kept insisting trans rights and healthcare were better under Trump than Biden, similar to the "we lost Roe under Biden" BS.
Elisabeth (@neuroticlesbian.bsky.social):
Classic "idiot, liar, or both" situation
James Bennett (@ubernostrum.bsky.social):
Ah, it was K*telyn Burns. Trying to see if I saved receipts.
James Bennett (@ubernostrum.bsky.social):
Found this one but I also recall her pooping on Biden specifically on trans rights and healthcare and mocking people who pointed out the stuff the Biden admin has done or attempted. May have been deleted like this one was after people called it out as a literal lie.
Ms. Penny Oaken, SkyWitch (@skywitches.net):
The context collapsed here is what "hottest take" means — it means something like "Isn't this ironic" or "quelle absurdistement". She's just remarking that good thing happened where she didn't expect, & substandard thing happened where she didn't expect
James Bennett (@ubernostrum.bsky.social):
Having familiarity with the larger body of this journ*list's work, I am not as inclined as you to extend the benefit of the doubt.
Ms. Penny Oaken, SkyWitch (@skywitches.net):
She's trans; I'm trans; I'm familiar with her work.
Trans people are able to remark on "isn't this ironic", and to try to hold government to treat us like human beings with full dignity and rights, and even tell jokes occasionally.
Ms. Penny Oaken, SkyWitch (@skywitches.net):
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War on Christmas Veteran🎄 (@sfaccountant.bsky.social):
She was also lying, as many, many people promptly pointed out by posting her other tweets showing when she got her shots.
So yeah, no, she's not remarking upon a frustrating coincidence here.
Ms. Penny Oaken, SkyWitch (@skywitches.net):
She was just shitposting.
∞ Monkeys (@somanymonkeys.bsky.social):
It looks more like a failure to understand how time works.
Biden came to office with a vaccine & no plan in place to vaccinate people. Unless she did some serious line jumping, she did not get vaccinated before 1/6/2021. Most of us had to wait months to get it.
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James Bennett (@ubernostrum.bsky.social):
I've read the tweet and fail to find the humor in it.
Maybe "Biden is worse than Trump" is a laugh-out-loud knee-slapper to you, but it doesn't work for me, staring down the barrel of Trump's re-election and actual genocides rather than the ones Biden didn't do but it was "funny" to claim he did.
Ms. Penny Oaken, SkyWitch (@skywitches.net):
It's dark humour.
I wouldn't have written it, but it also doesn't rise to the level of bad faith, for me.
James Bennett (@ubernostrum.bsky.social):
"It was dark humor" is a go-to excuse of edgelords of all stripes, yes.
To make this crystal-clear: you are in a hole, and you have a shovel in your hands, and you are being offered opportunities to stop digging.
Ms. Penny Oaken, SkyWitch (@skywitches.net):
Have a good one
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The Random Janitor (@scottthejanitor.bsky.social):
This is crazy. I thought spending was a problem for the right? I mean 88 billion? Per year? 🤯
Ms. Penny Oaken, SkyWitch (@skywitches.net):
Oh, they'd find the money.
The Random Janitor (@scottthejanitor.bsky.social):
It's amazing what they can find when it benefits them.
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Ms. Penny Oaken, SkyWitch (@skywitches.net):
Ladies and Gentlemen, Donald Trump's Party Controls Both The Senate and The House. They are all Party Creatures.
He need only instruct one body to demand adjournment at 11:59 and the other at 12:01 and then adjourn them both until the year 2028.
And they will go along with it. "Because".
Ms. Penny Oaken, SkyWitch (@skywitches.net):
When he spoke of wanting generals "like Hitler's generals", what he was asking was for generals who would swear "absolute allegiance until death".
That was the standard in Nazi Germany — of all Germans.
Unconditional obedience to the Führer & loyalty until death.
Ms. Penny Oaken, SkyWitch (@skywitches.net):
The GOP is already conditioned to this. They have to sign off on the party platforms line item by line item to get funding. They handed over absolute control of the party to Trump to run the 2024 campaign.
Ms. Penny Oaken, SkyWitch (@skywitches.net):
He's not crippling a Republican House by appointing Reps out of it; he's saving loyalists from what the party sees as defunct bodies of government.
Ms. Penny Oaken, SkyWitch (@skywitches.net):
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Ms. Penny Oaken, SkyWitch (@skywitches.net):
Eventually there's going to be a bunch of 2024 Trump voters who will try to say that they didn't know Trump is a White Identity Extremist, that they didn't know he would nominate and appoint and staff with White Identity Extremists.
Don't let those people off the hook. We've known for 8 years.
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Ms. Penny Oaken, SkyWitch (@skywitches.net):
Someone get Mike Judge on the phone and tell him to start writing a way out of this
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Ms. Penny Oaken, SkyWitch (@skywitches.net):
It's important to keep notes when you build / maintain blocklists; I just spent 5 minutes re-vetting this account as a transphobe, just to find out I listed him 2 weeks ago.
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Ms. Penny Oaken, SkyWitch (@skywitches.net):
This is why I need to record the DID instead of the handle
Wraithe (@wraithe.bsky.social):
Add mastodons "private notes for accounts" to my BlueSky feature wishlist.
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Ms. Penny Oaken, SkyWitch (@skywitches.net):
It's important to keep notes when you build / maintain blocklists; I just spent 5 minutes re-vetting this account as a transphobe, just to find out I listed him 2 weeks ago.
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No Shave Nickvember (@velcroking.bsky.social):
Is there a way to annotate your blocks in-app? That would be useful!
Ms. Penny Oaken, SkyWitch (@skywitches.net):
There isn't. It would be incredibly helpful.
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No Shave Nickvember (@velcroking.bsky.social):
Also handy for "keeping score." I'd love to know how many people I block for transphobia, racism, trolling, being boring, etc. And now I'm imagining a statblock like the back of a baseball card.
Ms. Penny Oaken, SkyWitch (@skywitches.net):
clearsky.app
Delivers those kinds of stats.
My advice is, tho, if you see someone putting someone else (or you) on 5 weirdly named / defamatory lists, ignore it - they're almost always 30-follower cranks.
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Leon English (@leonenglish.bsky.social):
K well I've lost faith in the electorate generally but Democrats remain fairly reasonable.
Ms. Penny Oaken, SkyWitch (@skywitches.net):
Covid, social / political polarisation, media takeover, inflation combined
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Ms. Penny Oaken, SkyWitch (@skywitches.net):
It's always the last programming code on the universal remote control
Valentine Valcourt 🏳️⚧️ (@vvalcourt.com):
Without fail
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Ms. Penny Oaken, SkyWitch (@skywitches.net):
In one:
A military coup tacitly necessitates the failure of the regular government.
If the Constitutional govt of the US fails, we become fifty independent states, and many of those will become failed states.
"Can't feed and get clean water to their people" failed.
Ms. Penny Oaken, SkyWitch (@skywitches.net):
If you're hoping for a minority with power to derail a Trump admin, that would be the Electoral College, who might have "faithless electors" (staring into camera), but that would require public servants with consciences instead of coin buttons sewn into their eyesockets
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Sophia_Nyx 🏳️⚧️ (@sophianyx.bsky.social):
name an unfunny comedy film.
(@potgnarly.bsky.social):
I think I chuckled a single time during Zombieland
Ms. Penny Oaken, SkyWitch (@skywitches.net):
I live in Garland, TX. That was the moment I laughed.
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Ms. Penny Oaken, SkyWitch (@skywitches.net):
In one:
A military coup tacitly necessitates the failure of the regular government.
If the Constitutional govt of the US fails, we become fifty independent states, and many of those will become failed states.
"Can't feed and get clean water to their people" failed.
Kiraculous the Cyborg🏳️⚧️ (@kiraculous.net):
missouri becomes the most coveted land because of the cheese caves
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Kiraculous the Cyborg🏳️⚧️ (@kiraculous.net):
every starter pack needs a judas
Ms. Penny Oaken, SkyWitch (@skywitches.net):
Is this an invitation to kiss ?? 💋
Kiraculous the Cyborg🏳️⚧️ (@kiraculous.net):
you don't need an invitation my dear 💋
Ms. Penny Oaken, SkyWitch (@skywitches.net):
Mmmmmmmm
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stuart (@stuartp.bsky.social):
the problem with tackling "wasteful government bureaucracy" is it's like deleting files from your computer called hostserver.dll that look useless and take up a lot of space and then your computer stops working
stuart (@stuartp.bsky.social):
needless to say, Musk is the worst type of dumb guy in that he's the type that think they understand everything and won't admit they don't, which is how he broke Twitter's verification system within a few months and lost all the advertisers as a result
Ms. Penny Oaken, SkyWitch (@skywitches.net):
I believe he did both on purpose.
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Keith Edwards (@keithedwards.bsky.social):
If Trump is a threat to democracy, as Biden has said, and a fascist, as Harris has said, why is the administration treating this transfer of power as normal?
Ms. Penny Oaken, SkyWitch (@skywitches.net):
The Gödel backdoor to the Constitution — "Because that is their duty under the Rule of Law".
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Melinda Magpie 🏳️⚧️ 🇵🇸💍 (@melindamagpie.bsky.social):
Entering my Moo Deng era
(Stumbling awkwardly trying to escape the world's absurdity; screaming at unwanted people to keep their hands off my body)
Ms. Penny Oaken, SkyWitch (@skywitches.net):
Melinda Magpie 🏳️⚧️ 🇵🇸💍 (@melindamagpie.bsky.social):
Always!
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Ms. Penny Oaken, SkyWitch (@skywitches.net):
trying to not scream into a pillow and failing
April (@aprillia.bsky.social):
My pillows are screaming back
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Jon Cooper (@joncooper-us.bsky.social):
I really love Bluesky, but I'm not crazy about calling posts here "skeets." I just looked up the word, and skeet is apparently slang for ejaculation.
We can do better than that, folks! Since Elon coldly spurned the word "tweet" on X, I guess we could use that. Or maybe "blues"?
Any other ideas?
Ms. Penny Oaken, SkyWitch (@skywitches.net):
LFCs (Little Fluffy Clouds)
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Ms. Penny Oaken, SkyWitch (@skywitches.net):
The reason Trump & Co are appointing so many corrupt & bigoted & fail-upwards to posts, is that the entire point of his operations is to make people lose trust in the US.
Ms. Penny Oaken, SkyWitch (@skywitches.net):
It's an example of The Forum vs The Circus.
Good, regular government should be a Forum - power delegated to clerks to Do Things On Our Behalf - unexciting, competent, enabling proper division of labour.
The Circus demands You Do Things On Its Behalf - like Pay Attention All The Time.
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lauren (@lauren.rotatingsandwiches.com):
one day you're going to see elon posting "we just cut 200 million dollars going to bull weevil outbreak prevention 😂😂" and then a couple months later the entire midwest will be decimated by the first mass bull weevil outbreak since 1884
Ms. Penny Oaken, SkyWitch (@skywitches.net):
www.aphis.usda.gov/livestock-po....
The US funds & operates a program to keep Screwworm out of North America.
Would decimate livestock (including, esp. pork & beef) and can infect humans!!
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Alejandra Caraballo (@esqueer.net):
Oh my god.
Ms. Penny Oaken, SkyWitch (@skywitches.net):
S e l f A w a r e w o l f
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Sy Nakamura (@theredprince.bsky.social):
Anti vaccine dipshit troll -> @apwk.bsky.social
Ms. Penny Oaken, SkyWitch (@skywitches.net):
On my IMVE list
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Ms. Penny Oaken, SkyWitch (@skywitches.net):
Todo:
Why antivaxxers are imve
Wie shibboleths
The importance of Bill & Ted
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Anna Phylaxis (@quatoria.bsky.social):
really doubling down on the transphobia.
just amazing work from "the liberal donald trump"
i really appreciate how you reify that femininity is a useful and worthy thing to mock men for, a thing you and donald trump fully agree on
Ms. Penny Oaken, SkyWitch (@skywitches.net):
I am just waiting for the inevitable Denial, Defense, Dismissal, Derailment response and then chucking her on the blocklists 💅
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Asperas Bompar (@asperasbompar.bsky.social):
Here is a moderation list that lets you block or mute reporters who work for Rupert Murdoch owned media outlets:
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Ms. Penny Oaken, SkyWitch (@skywitches.net):
Perfection
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Ms. Penny Oaken, SkyWitch (@skywitches.net):
This is a perfect example of the power of composable moderation.
It never even crossed my mind to block or blocklist the soulless ghouls feeding the global right wing power grab, and this made it effortless.
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Ms. Penny Oaken, SkyWitch (@skywitches.net):
Hello new folks!
Since many (most?) of you followed me due to the mod lists and being in anti-extremist starter packs, I think I'll talk about moderation - how to spot the trolls. (Useful if you want to make blocklists)
There's many ways to approach this, but this morning, let's tackle sexism.
Ms. Penny Oaken, SkyWitch (@skywitches.net):
The "first filter" or first screen for spotting sexism is The Four D's — Denial, Dismissal, Defense, and Derailment.
These are four rhetorical methods that are used in i.e. climate change denialism, but also (because people accept them) they're used for misogynist speech.
Ms. Penny Oaken, SkyWitch (@skywitches.net):
The second filter is what @vortexegg.com calls "leveraging the ambient bigotry" — making femininity / feminism / that-which-is-not-cishetmale the "punching bag", the "butt of the joke".
This includes such things as
"Labeling Enemies As Women or Sissies"
and
"Being Gay Is Shameful"
coding
Ms. Penny Oaken, SkyWitch (@skywitches.net):
By amplifying an ambient culture of misogyny, these kinds of speech acts undermine respect, safety, and dignity of all women — it communicates the base premise that women are bad, femininity something to be ashamed of.
Ms. Penny Oaken, SkyWitch (@skywitches.net):
The third filter is the Nine Types of Reply Guys, courtesy of @sbarolo.bsky.social & @shrewshrew.bsky.social
Their thread also contextualises the famous SeaLion type as misogynist
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Ms. Penny Oaken, SkyWitch (@skywitches.net):
And the final filter, the "algorithm" to decode a bit of speech to determine if it's misogynist hate speech -
1. Is it abusive?
2. Is it targeting someone else?
3. Is it targeting that person (or group) on the basis of being a woman / girl / feminine?
Ms. Penny Oaken, SkyWitch (@skywitches.net):
That last test is credit to Philine Zeinert, Nanna Inie, & Leon Derczynski, "Annotating Online Misogyny", which tackles common sexist speech, & introduces a term, "neosexism", which is Denial, Dismissal, Defense, and Derailment in response to holding misogynist speech to account.
Ms. Penny Oaken, SkyWitch (@skywitches.net):
BlueSky is better when communities band together to define and reinforce community boundaries, and the block feature & blocklists are the basic building blocks (heh) of that defense.
Misogyny is unacceptable, and rejecting it is important — for women, and for defeating bigotry.
Ms. Penny Oaken, SkyWitch (@skywitches.net):
I don't have a specific blocklist for only misogynists, because 99% of the time, misogyny & misogynist speech is "comorbid" with other toxic behaviours — the Venn diagram of White Identity Extremism & misogyny, for example, is a tight circle.
Ms. Penny Oaken, SkyWitch (@skywitches.net):
(Not all misogynists are White Identity Extremists, but all White Identity Extremists are misogynists)
Britni is Salty (@moxiecotton.bsky.social):
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Ms. Penny Oaken, SkyWitch (@skywitches.net):
Hope this helps.
The humanity of transgender people isn't a political issue.
Treating 6, 10 year old kids who just wanna kick a ball or run, as political pawns, is accepting the premise that transgender people aren't human, just game pieces in a political power struggle.
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Granny panties and a dress. Granny panties and a dress.
6 foot 4 and a mugshot. 6 foot 4 and a mugshot.
Child abuse and no job. Child abuse and no job.
Living in mama's sunroom. Living in mama's sunroom.
Giant pale hands and lipstick. Giant pale hands and lipstick.
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