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Kiraculous the Cyborg🏳️⚧️ (@kiraculous.net):
november 16th 2024 at 6:37 pm shall be remembered for one of the worst takes in history
Ms. Penny Oaken, SkyWitch (@skywitches.net):
Kiss me & let's stop the world
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Ms. Penny Oaken, SkyWitch (@skywitches.net):
Wu's (nonsense) invocation of "antisemitism" here is a Dead Cat Strategy - an attempt to shock and strawman, to deflect and distract from the question of "Why are thousands of trans people blocking Brianna?".
It's also a targeted harassment prompt.
Grogu, AKA Baby Yoda (@1nonlybabyyoda.bsky.social):
Why haven't you already blocked the muppet like 92% of Bluesky users? You're just giving them oxygen.
Ms. Penny Oaken, SkyWitch (@skywitches.net):
I love you.
(Because you have brought my politics of social media moderation full circle back at me, holding me accountable)
(I do have her blocked. I also have her on a few of my blocklists.)
(I did weigh the oxygen of amplification consideration before posting this.)
Grogu, AKA Baby Yoda (@1nonlybabyyoda.bsky.social):
That's fair. 👍🏻
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daniel sieradski (@self.agency):
sorry but on what basis is this maniac calling alejandra an antisemite? because she doesn't support the slaughter of palestinians in gaza?
Ms. Penny Oaken, SkyWitch (@skywitches.net):
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Ms. Penny Oaken, SkyWitch (@skywitches.net):
In a weird way, Brianna Wu being the (latest) mouthpiece for laundering "Please Just Accept That Some LGBTQ People Deserve To Be Othered" is a good sign —
First, they tried to Other lesbians & homosexual men. Obergefell shut that down.
Then they recruited TERF lesbians to split LGBTQ.
Ms. Penny Oaken, SkyWitch (@skywitches.net):
That didn't succeed.
Now they're down to recruiting a transmedicalist trans woman & Democratic politicians to beg us to even accept the premise and open negotiations on whom to offer up in sacrifice.
Ms. Penny Oaken, SkyWitch (@skywitches.net):
Frick her, Frick them, Frick no.
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Staccata (@stacy.is.relentlessly.online):
oh my god
it felt like it was 10pm so I started to get ready to go to bed. I took my prog, I TOOK MY AMBIEN.
ITS 7:30
Ms. Penny Oaken, SkyWitch (@skywitches.net):
Go nini now. Sleepy sleep.
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Ms. Penny Oaken, SkyWitch (@skywitches.net):
Wu's (nonsense) invocation of "antisemitism" here is a Dead Cat Strategy - an attempt to shock and strawman, to deflect and distract from the question of "Why are thousands of trans people blocking Brianna?".
It's also a targeted harassment prompt.
Ms. Penny Oaken, SkyWitch (@skywitches.net):
This is the kind of threshold I was contemplating yesterday; Wu has ~17k followers, and if she continues to prompt targeted harassment with defamatory accusations of antisemitism etc - directing her followers with the effect of circumventing the blocks - her followers will need to be blocklisted.
Ms. Penny Oaken, SkyWitch (@skywitches.net):
Maybe not today, maybe not tomorrow, maybe not even her, but it is coming that a disingenuous cloutmonger machiavellian boundary violator making bad faith claims of discrimination will require cauterization.
Chappell's Femininomenology of Spirit (@ofvick.bsky.social):
I'm genuinely worried how Bsky's twenty staffers are gonna handle the day they have to seriously moderate rather than just letting us self-police with blocklists
Ms. Penny Oaken, SkyWitch (@skywitches.net):
The model on this site is Eventual Enforcement, enabled by the community labelers & blocklists & reporting. Every major UCHISP has some form of Eventual Enforcement augmented by community association controls of some kind (except, now, Twitter).
This isn't the first major stresstest of their team.
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Ms. Penny Oaken, SkyWitch (@skywitches.net):
Wu's (nonsense) invocation of "antisemitism" here is a Dead Cat Strategy - an attempt to shock and strawman, to deflect and distract from the question of "Why are thousands of trans people blocking Brianna?".
It's also a targeted harassment prompt.
Jos (@jos1463.bsky.social):
Lol I have her blocked because she's in @numb.comfortab.ly "right wing trolls and their enablers" block lost
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Alejandra Caraballo (@esqueer.net):
Lmao. It's working. Keep blocking away.
Ms. Penny Oaken, SkyWitch (@skywitches.net):
🙏🏻 I will not discourse. Discourse is the heart-killer. Discourse is the little-death that brings total clout pilferation. I will block the cloutroll. I will allow her to dash against the rocks of the walls, and when she is gone I will look in her path, and only GenderCrit rhetoric will remain
BigBen324 (@bigben324.bsky.social):
I'm confused who is Brianna Wu and why do we not like her?
Ms. Penny Oaken, SkyWitch (@skywitches.net):
In one: She was a target of G*merGate who used that to get clout. She then — recently — did a turn to:
🔵 Befriending the bigots who led G*merGate;
🔵 Coming out as trans;
🔵 Using her identity to launder GenderCritical & G*merGate transphobic hatred in cleaned-up language.
She's a bigot mouthpiece.
BigBen324 (@bigben324.bsky.social):
So she's trans and washes away transphobia in the gaming industry? Or is she washing the transphobia of the people who perpetuated g*mergate?
Ms. Penny Oaken, SkyWitch (@skywitches.net):
We know that i.e the major right wing transphobe groups, right after Obergefell was decided, chose to make transgender people their new stalking horse / scapegoats for "These People Are Untermenschen, Let Us Victimise Them". (Next post —)
Ms. Penny Oaken, SkyWitch (@skywitches.net):
One of the ways they did that was launder their rhetoric through third parties, like using Trans-Exclusive Radical Feminists (TERFs) to be their mouthpieces for hateful rhetoric, to disguise that it originated from them.
Wu is doing the same for them - hiding the origin of the hatred.
BigBen324 (@bigben324.bsky.social):
But that's really strange cause she is trans… I don't understand how she can do that unless she's a "oh the leopard's won't eat my face" kind of person?
Ms. Penny Oaken, SkyWitch (@skywitches.net):
One of the documented strategies used by extremists recruiting mouthpieces is to assure them that they Are One Of The Good Ones, We Trust You; This nets them enough volunteers. She has a personality that approach works on.
There's also potentially money.
Ms. Penny Oaken, SkyWitch (@skywitches.net):
She has an expensive lifestyle and wants to preserve it.
She wants to be someone important - like an actor.
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Ms. Penny Oaken, SkyWitch (@skywitches.net):
It isn't a matter of "like" or "dislike"; It's that she is has bought the bigot's plea that some trans people aren't worthy of dignity, rights, personhood.
After someone cedes that point, it's only a matter of where the line is drawn and what price they'll accept to draw it.
BigBen324 (@bigben324.bsky.social):
Ooooohhhhhhh ok ok I gotcha yah that's not cool
Helllenne (@hellgecko.bsky.social):
She's also a massive Zionist and says that anyone that supports Palestine is Hamas.
So you know, really balanced and rational 🫠
Ms. Penny Oaken, SkyWitch (@skywitches.net):
She may have picked that up from the people who ran G*merGate, too; they were cooperating with the literal neoNazis running CringeAnarchy & The_Donald etc, to coordinate platforming white supremacist rhetoric. They adopted philosemitic positions to support the conflict, a "non-Brother war"
Ms. Penny Oaken, SkyWitch (@skywitches.net):
It's paradoxical but it's true — neoNazis (esp. evangelical christian neonazis) support Israel in this conflict because Israel is genociding non-whites, and they believe Israel will incite a genocidal retribution from Arab states, enacting the Final Solution and triggering Armageddon.
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Mali Burek ♿️🏳️🌈🏳️⚧️ (@maliburek.bsky.social):
Wait she's trans but also hates swaths of other trans people? Holy shit.
Ms. Penny Oaken, SkyWitch (@skywitches.net):
There's a phenomenon, "Internalised Transphobia".
Usually it just contributes to trans people staying closeted. Sometimes it contributes to closeted trans people enacting trans hatred. Sometimes it contributes to transmedicalism.
She's denied she's transphobic, but gestures at her actions
Mali Burek ♿️🏳️🌈🏳️⚧️ (@maliburek.bsky.social):
Wow. That's wild and sad. Thanks for the explanation. It's much appreciated.
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I don't know what you said, because I've seen another human naked.
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Emma Evans (@trance.bsky.social):
Blocking isn't censorship, it's praxis.
People who argue anyone should be allowed to talk at you however they wish, in your home, are people who aren't allowed in my home.
Blockity block.
PS: xkcd.com/1357/
Socratic Nerd (@socraticnerd.bsky.social):
Thank you for the heads up. Just put this chud on my moderation list
Ms. Penny Oaken, SkyWitch (@skywitches.net):
Can I ask where you got your 4 D's from? I have 4 D's from a Rebecca Cohen tumblr post —
Socratic Nerd (@socraticnerd.bsky.social):
Thanks, I was looking for that but my search didn't show up. I should add to the list. But I did get mine from the leading expert on disinformation Ben Nimmo. Here's the link:
online.umich.edu/teach-outs/d...
Ms. Penny Oaken, SkyWitch (@skywitches.net):
Awesome! Thanks so much!
I look for / collect / use crowdsourced moderation cowtools & philosophy; this will help!
Socratic Nerd (@socraticnerd.bsky.social):
Absolutely. Thank you for the graphic. I saw it once and it bugged me to no end trying to find it🖖
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Joshua J. Friedman (@joshuajfriedman.com):
Seth's tool now lets you convert a starter pack into either a regular (content) list or a block (moderation) list! Thanks, @wandrme.paxex.aero
Ms. Penny Oaken, SkyWitch (@skywitches.net):
📌
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Faine Greenwood (@faineg.bsky.social):
Think we're witnessing genuine flop-sweat from the same cadre of profoundly dull contrarian columnists who have been getting grossly overpaid for writing the same boring column with minor variations since 2015.
Being tiresome on Twitter was a core part of their shtick, and it's not working here.
Faine Greenwood (@faineg.bsky.social):
The fact that their dumb owning the libs act isn't translating well over here is an interesting indicator that Twitter was very much designed to prop up talentless hacks whose only talent was being shitty to minorities while using the occasional mid-scoring SAT word.
Faine Greenwood (@faineg.bsky.social):
Anyway, these pathetic creatures are sustained by pissing off the libs, and the best thing you can do to cut them off from the Outrage Teat they depend on is just blocking them.
Preferably, pretend you've never heard of them at all. They hate that shit.
Faine Greenwood (@faineg.bsky.social):
The Centrist Columnist Mediocrity Class will respond with their sole defense mechanism: shrieking and emitting slime in the pages of rapidly declining legacy media publications, while, somehow, blaming The Queers.
Let them.
We don't have to care what they think anymore. We never did.
Faine Greenwood (@faineg.bsky.social):
Centrist Columnist Mediocrities are a lot like hagfish, albeit without the charm and with far more irrational dislike for minorities.
Hagfish may have unpleasant personal habits, but I've never met one who wanted to talk to me about how the scientific racism creeps have a point.
Tony Corsentino (@notalegalrecord.net):
hagfish have the courtesy of lacking jaws
Ms. Penny Oaken, SkyWitch (@skywitches.net):
Also a good punk band
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not reading your substack
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Ms. Penny Oaken, SkyWitch (@skywitches.net):
Oh and FYI, I believe:
⚙️ Trans rights are human rights;
⚙️ Food & housing are human rights.
⚙️ Health care (including reproductive health care (i.e. abortions)) is a human right.
If you disagree with these, you might change your mind.
If you attack me for these, you will be blocked.
Doug Stewart (@dougstewart.bsky.social):
No reason to attack. I just disagree with the last two and I'll unfollow the person that reposted it. It's very simple to be respectful and firm online. More people should do it.
Here's a picture of the cutest beaver I've ever seen. Her name is Petunia
Ms. Penny Oaken, SkyWitch (@skywitches.net):
🙏🏻
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Soupcan Steffans (@soupcansteffans.bsky.social):
@brainnotonyet.bsky.social
Karl (sad trombone noise enthusiast) (@brainnotonyet.bsky.social):
They are def flailing and it's hilarious.
Ms. Penny Oaken, SkyWitch (@skywitches.net):
Filed away under TriggerinTehLibz
Karl (sad trombone noise enthusiast) (@brainnotonyet.bsky.social):
He just disappeared into my far right list. It's getting cavernous
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Ms. Penny Oaken, SkyWitch (@skywitches.net):
GWHEN I WAS
A YOUNG GIRL
MY FATHER
TOOK ME INTO THE CITY
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Faine Greenwood (@faineg.bsky.social):
Trying to decide if I should get the AppleCare+ benefit that covers theft for a new iPhone - I am traveling to some places soon where it will be a huge pain in the butt to get a police report if my phone gets stolen, and I do like that they don't seem to ask for police reports when you make a claim.
Ms. Penny Oaken, SkyWitch (@skywitches.net):
Get it. It's absolutely worth it.
Smörhuvud (he/surprise me) (@guncelawits.bsky.social):
+1 I never get protection plans on large appliances but I always get protection plans on mobile appliances
Ms. Penny Oaken, SkyWitch (@skywitches.net):
I'm the kind of person that gets a specific protection plan on large appliances that extends well outside the expected bathtub curve. I can't say those are really worth it, though, since the last large appliance failure I dealt with was a fridge/freezer two decades in service 😅
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Ms. Penny Oaken, SkyWitch (@skywitches.net):
The people who ran /r/cringeanarchy & /r/the_donald literally manipulated Reddit's infrastructure to vote-manipulate their posts to the front page of the site.
I've said it before & I will say it until I'm silenced:
Musk bought Twitter to make it into /r/the_donald2.0
Cassandra of Troy (@cassandraoftroy.bsky.social):
And that is why I am deleting every darn tweet and like.
Back to 2018!
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Ms. Penny Oaken, SkyWitch (@skywitches.net):
Oh and FYI, I believe:
⚙️ Trans rights are human rights;
⚙️ Food & housing are human rights.
⚙️ Health care (including reproductive health care (i.e. abortions)) is a human right.
If you disagree with these, you might change your mind.
If you attack me for these, you will be blocked.
Big Krampus Energy (@mayawest.online):
🫡🫡
Ms. Penny Oaken, SkyWitch (@skywitches.net):
🙇🏻♀️
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Dell Cameron 🦇 (@dell.bsky.social):
Bsky onboarding ~36K users per hour atm
Ms. Penny Oaken, SkyWitch (@skywitches.net):
W a o w
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Ms. Penny Oaken, SkyWitch (@skywitches.net):
Oh and FYI, I believe:
⚙️ Trans rights are human rights;
⚙️ Food & housing are human rights.
⚙️ Health care (including reproductive health care (i.e. abortions)) is a human right.
If you disagree with these, you might change your mind.
If you attack me for these, you will be blocked.
Ms. Penny Oaken, SkyWitch (@skywitches.net):
And by "human right" I mean "rights retained by the people" as referenced in the Ninth Amendment to the US Constitution.
Do not @ me with any argument that these don't appear in the law.
Ms. Penny Oaken, SkyWitch (@skywitches.net):
Inspired by
bsky.app/profile/maya...
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Kiraculous the Cyborg🏳️⚧️ (@kiraculous.net):
dreamt i fell down the stairs in my sleep somehow wrapped in a mattresss
Ms. Penny Oaken, SkyWitch (@skywitches.net):
Gosh that sounds incredibly cosy
Kiraculous the Cyborg🏳️⚧️ (@kiraculous.net):
it was apparently streamed on twitch and synced up to another preson also falling down the stairs in a mattress
Ms. Penny Oaken, SkyWitch (@skywitches.net):
I wanna
Be your mattress baby
You can bounce on me
(Heehee)
Ms. Penny Oaken, SkyWitch (@skywitches.net):
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potz(er)🏳️⚧️🐉🦝 (@potzer.xyz):
i've been asking someone to bring me a mcgriddle for weeks now. do you not care about me?
Ms. Penny Oaken, SkyWitch (@skywitches.net):
I would if I could 🫂
potz(er)🏳️⚧️🐉🦝 (@potzer.xyz):
i know you would 😢🥰❤️❤️
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Ms. Penny Oaken, SkyWitch (@skywitches.net):
I was going to do a Moderation Education thread tomorrow about "Why antivaxxers are Ideologically Motivated Violent Extremists", but this right here is better than anything I'd drafted.
Antivaxxers are Ideologically Motivated Violent Extremists.
Ms. Penny Oaken, SkyWitch (@skywitches.net):
Antivaxxers are Ideologically Motivated Violent Extremists.
bsky.app/profile/greg...
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Ms. Penny Oaken, SkyWitch (@skywitches.net):
"One is not born, but rather becomes, a woman" — Simone de Beauvoir
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Kathryn Salamander 🦎 (@transsalamander.bsky.social):
I do love when the MtG art is surprisingly haunting
Ms. Penny Oaken, SkyWitch (@skywitches.net):
🔵: Place a toy piano on the playing surface and play a G Note
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Katie Tightkitty (@juicysteak117.gay):
it is not lost on me that after nearly two years of bluesky's existence with the majority of that being an extremely trans positive space that the transphobic journ*lists are all clamoring to paper over that history.
this does NOT need to be twitter 2. social media CAN be good if we make it good.
Ms. Penny Oaken, SkyWitch (@skywitches.net):
I wondered why I couldn't see the root post, and it turns out the author is on this excellent list of People Who Work For Rupert Murdoch (which ofc settles the question for me)
bsky.app/profile/did:...
🔞 Tubbles 🔞 (@tubbles.bsky.social):
Extremely powerful block list. I want to make those people go away, especially after how much they just fricked over the entire world for a paycheck.
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Ms. Penny Oaken, SkyWitch (@skywitches.net):
Today, for more education about Moderation,
let's talk about The Importance of William "Bill" S. Preston, Esq., and Ted "Theodore" Logan — aka Bill & Ted, aka
Be Excellent To Each Other!
Ms. Penny Oaken, SkyWitch (@skywitches.net):
A great way to think about moderation on social media - especially here on BlueSky - is to imagine a group of people sitting around a table at a restaurant or café, and they're approached by a stranger.
Does this stranger treat the group the way one would expect in a café? Or are they a jerk?
Ms. Penny Oaken, SkyWitch (@skywitches.net):
This moment — respecting or invading the boundaries of a group in public — tells us a large amount about the person's intentions. Did they search a term to find a 2 month old thread? Are they approaching a group to challenge them to "debate me!" —?
Would you put up with this behaviour in public?
Ms. Penny Oaken, SkyWitch (@skywitches.net):
Spotting these behaviours is more than half the battle.
Some folks have blocklists titled "Debate Perverts", some "Hostile Jerks", etc.
Ultimately it all ties back to a root troll behaviour — the desire to violate boundaries.
Ms. Penny Oaken, SkyWitch (@skywitches.net):
So, for better than 90% of moderation / deciding whether to "ban" an account, think in terms of,
"Is this person's intent to test or violate a personal or community boundary?"
"Are they being the best person they could be?" is one form of that.
So, Be Excellent To Each Other!
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Edith Laurie Charles (@edithcharles.bsky.social):
Getting used to containing my meaning within 280 characters without losing any of it has if anything made me a better writer. If this hasn't been your experience I'm afraid that's filed under "skill issue" and it isn't your place to make it everyone else's problem.
Ms. Penny Oaken, SkyWitch (@skywitches.net):
Are we scaring off the PhDs in pleural pneumonultramicroscopicsilicovolcanoconiosis
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Dr Henry 🦃 (@henryhenryhenry.com):
valid. not sure the composable community mod systems have been really tested. like nation-state adversary tested. guess we'll see.
Ms. Penny Oaken, SkyWitch (@skywitches.net):
My current concern is, "What effect does it have on the site if 30,000 accounts are added to a blocklist 10,000 people subscribe to". And - they can't disclose that (it would be like shouting "break us" if they did) & I can't test it just to test it.
But I see it approaching.
Ms. Penny Oaken, SkyWitch (@skywitches.net):
I think they'll be able to handle an influx of hate groups as long as user blocklists scale. An imageboard tried to "raid" harassment a month back & I'm told they script-made north of 100,000 sockpuppets, which T&S handled.
Ms. Penny Oaken, SkyWitch (@skywitches.net):
Hate / harassment on a nationstate level will either be AI-generated individuals, or they'll organize into "hives" the way /pol/ & groypers did on Twitter @ 2018, or they'll mass follow a "leader".
1 is expensive for an attacker; 2 & 3 are cheap to blockenheimer. Economics favour us in all 3.
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Dr Henry 🦃 (@henryhenryhenry.com):
interesting. I get the sense that it's the non-standard BS-specific features—like you said, blocklists and such—that provide new terrain for organized frickery?
Ms. Penny Oaken, SkyWitch (@skywitches.net):
Blocklists here are almost certainly implemented with a Bloom filter, for space & computing resources efficiency.
They're not space-optimal, however, and they have to sacrifice more space to minimise false positives. Some providers that I know use them limit the # of elements, to prevent overflow.
Ms. Penny Oaken, SkyWitch (@skywitches.net):
Like, on Reddit, which uses Bloom filters for blocking, personal blocking is limited to 1,000 blocks.
There's also a compute hit for rebuilding them if elements are removed. There's ways to mitigate that, too, but no way to know if BlueSky has backend to do that.
Ms. Penny Oaken, SkyWitch (@skywitches.net):
I think they might have some experience / roadmap on handling these kinds of things, though, since there were people here early trying "block everyone" experiments.
Ms. Penny Oaken, SkyWitch (@skywitches.net):
We also need 2FA. We need 2FA last month.
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Redshift (@redshiftsinger.bsky.social):
Reddit's blocking limit is fricking terrible for anyone with an account more than two years old who's both moderately active and part of a marginalized community.
Ms. Penny Oaken, SkyWitch (@skywitches.net):
I agree 100%.
Every month I start up a script to cull the suspended accounts from mine, which is the only reason mine has only hit the limit twice.
If I were as powerful a baba yaga as the bigots believed, every one of them would be perma'd
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Alexandra Merideth Erin [she/her] (@alexandraerin.com):
People replied to this saying it was worth the price to him to destroy Twitter and such, and. He fought it. In court. It wasn't a clever ploy.
That he got some use out of it after he was stuck with it doesn't change the fact that he skidded butt-backwards into it with his pants on his head.
Ms. Penny Oaken, SkyWitch (@skywitches.net):
I still believe the "fight" was for show, a limited hangout to forestall investigation. Won't know for sure until / unless court filings happen, though.
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Ms. Penny Oaken, SkyWitch (@skywitches.net):
Happened yesterday.
A dude replied to a 2-month-old thread about a Transformers character, & in 15 minutes was saying that "Science says …".
I slapped down a vid from a medical scientist / endo saying "Don't use science to justify your hatred"
Dude doubled down.
Onto the blocklists
Ms. Penny Oaken, SkyWitch (@skywitches.net):
But y'know, we can try.
web.archive.org/web/20181203...
Ms. Penny Oaken, SkyWitch (@skywitches.net):
www.nature.com/articles/d41...
Ms. Penny Oaken, SkyWitch (@skywitches.net):
journals.sagepub.com/doi/full/10....
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Ms. Penny Oaken, SkyWitch (@skywitches.net):
I'm just an old queer trans woman lying in bed bawling my eyes out listening to The Cure
Erin Banneret (@banneret.bsky.social):
That is a good idea, I may have to do it myself.
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Granny panties and a dress. Granny panties and a dress.
6 foot 4 and a mugshot. 6 foot 4 and a mugshot.
Child abuse and no job. Child abuse and no job.
Living in mama's sunroom. Living in mama's sunroom.
Giant pale hands and lipstick. Giant pale hands and lipstick.
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