Let me translate:The facial hair grooming standards of the US Military arose when it was overwhelmingly White.They specify that the soldier must be clean shaven, start to finish in a small span of time.African-Americans often can’t hit that window.This was used to drum out & harass them.
— Ms . Penny Oaken, SkyWitch (@skywitches.net) 2025-03-13T00:57:46.148Z
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lol how ironically racist of her
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In order for a gas mask to properly fit your face and protect you from gas, you need to have it in direct contact with your skin. If you have stubble or a beard then it will not create a seal. The path of least resistance when you breathe will not be through the filter, but through the sides of your mask. If you don't stay clean shaven then you will not survive a gas attack when ordered to put on your mask.
!veterans I bet some of you had to go in the tear gas room and remove your mask in Basic. When you did your fit test for your mask they probably had a chart for the acceptable mustache types so that they don't interfere with the mask's seal.
!fedposters !firearms
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Wow sounds like gas masks are racist.
Krayon sexually assaulted his sister.
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Did you just draw this?
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yeah man, reverse search that shit
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Very nice
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If you ever knew bottomlulz he was another r4chan janny and he did custom stuff like that as comments all the time
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Incredible lmao
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No the racist butt gas mask manufacturers could make a mask for a beard but they hate Muslims and black people and their shave resistant beards
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There are miniature supplied air contraptions where you wear a 15 minutes air tank and a plastic bag over your head lol. Too much weight and too big for a kit.
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Plastic bags are pretty light and you don't need to put one on for 15 minutes to effectively suffocate someone. It takes about 2 minutes with a good struggle
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The air canister attached to it is pretty hefty
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Never tried it
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Yes, and gas masks are the most important part of military readiness.
Anyone with facial hair is not part of the military, because they cannot wear gas masks. Simple as.
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Modern gas masks give plenty of leeway and every other country in the world just says that if you aren't operating somewhere with a CBRN risk you don't have to shave. Some actually forbid you from shaving in the field because of infections (unless, again, CBRN risk).
The actual reason for it in the modern day is that the aesthetic the US military wants to push is rooted in the 1950s. Same reason that women used to have a minimum hair length longer than men's maximum hair length.
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The catch is the testing and certification is performed to a specification, and they cannot guarantee that the mask meets protective requirements outside those operating specs. The test apparatus uses a simulated skin to make contact with the mask. If you wear it while stubbly you lose that confidence. You can probably pass a mask fit test while unshaven but the testers aren't supposed to allow you to attempt it.
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In the Army at least actual CBRN testing is a once a year thing for infantry at most. Other than that you just mopp 4 around in the desert all day in case you get attacked by the commies. For everyone else who works in an environment that doesn't require them to have a mask strapped to their hip (assuming they're even assigned one) CBRN has zero relevancy, shaving doesn't magically teleport a mask onto your face.
It's been proven time and time again that soldiers can seal a pro mask effectively up to medium length. Anything the military justifies with the words "high standards" or "professional" is 100% an aesthetic choice, like not being allowed to put your hands in your pockets during a blizzard.
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Fair enough but the masks are only officially tested and evaluated to a MIL STD environment, which uses positive and negative controls, and simulates a clean shaven face. That is the only way that a gas mask is tested and approved for use, because otherwise you are operating it outside of its parameters.
Shaving won't magically put a mask on your face, but you can't magically shave when you need your mask on, like in the first Gulf War.
This is from the 80s but here's a NIH study in how facial hair causes 8% leakage with a fitted mask. That's bad for Soman vapors.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/6702601/
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PO LICE THAT MOO STACHE
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I think you've got your sleeves rolled a little too tight sarge
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You'd get kitty if you acted like Trombley
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No, he had to act like Trombley to get kitty
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trombley had a lot better social skills than me
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During World War I racist commanders often wouldn't bother telling this to the black troops, who were disproportionately killed by gas attacks. Black population levels in Europe are still recovering over 100 years later.
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You would think they'd want more black people signing up if that were the case.
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Lmao according to this blueskytard the military should make custom masks for every soldier instead of simply mandating shaving
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With a minimal amount of facial hair you can still get a good seal but it can potentially make it more difficult. Literally every black soldier gets a shaving profile anyways so the whole thing is kind of a moot point.
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Yeah you have some leeway, but the modeling and testing is done on these machines
It simulates heavy human breathing and has ports in the nose, mouth, and eyes. Then they fill the chamber with sarin and other nasty stuff and measure the breakthrough over time. There is definitely data that shows that smooth skin is the optimum connection. Even going from 100% to 99.9% protection means 1 in 1000 casualties.
Notice how this dude is wearing an M40 while testing the M50, interesting detail.
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This gets funnier the more you think about it
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Especially since he's fricking factually wrong on every level
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It's a racist stereotype only a shitlib could come up with. Your ordinary racist isn't out there thinking black people can't shave every day.
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"I bet this is racist" is the lib version of "there could be BIPOCs here"
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It's astonishing isn't it? Only someone that thinks they're not racist could come up with something so racist
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it would be a high quality bait post coming from any other person
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He's like the pizzashLL of transvestites
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Isnt it a good thing to not let black people get killed fighting for oil?
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shaving is white
only, only white 
can look clean 
and professional 
after all.
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Lol I guess we can add it to the list with too r-slurred to get a government ID and too r-slurred to get on the internet.
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The army wants to exclude people because, um, uh, they want less soldiers!!!
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But with blacks instead
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They're making the racist phrase "dindu nuffin" into "cantdu nuffin"
Be a better citizen. Stand against racism, and racist sites like bluesky
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As r-slurred as he is, there actually is some truth to it. Black dudes get ingrown hairs a lot more (you can only imagine how nappy their facial hair is) so they had to accommodate them.
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And they get no shave chits from medical all the time along with anyone else that has facial hair that causes extreme irritation.
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Bardfinn really isn't bright. This really only applies to Sikhs because they're not supposed to shave their beard. There a tons of black people in the military that are shaved, they usually don't become navy seals or other stuff because they're not patriotic lol.
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Black people can get ingrown hairs when they shave their beards. Because of this it is unequitable to force them to shave. But at the same time it is unequitable to force only nonblack troops to shave. In the name of equity we have to ban blacks from the armed forces.
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Are you doubting personal experience gained while being arrested for wife beating?
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If you think Wh*te folks all have thin beards, you haven't met many men of Scottish ancestry.
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And I plan on keeping it that way.
Everything I know about the Scots I learned from Trainspotting and Braveheart, so I'm something of an expert on them.
Avoid them at all costs.
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Fair enough, but my point remains that Scottish men and women tend to have bristly beards.
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there's no chance that's a real tweet. i refuse to believe anyone is that r-slurred.
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She isn't wrong though. Their skin really can get fricked up from it. It probably is somewhat of a racist policy judged on today's standard.
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/r/dallas is a discussion forum with 4 mods, down from 7 mods 5 years ago, and an unacceptable long running policy and practice that can be expressed as "Moderating here comes after job, commute, cooking, family, sleep, holidays, exercise, naps, and blowing our noses".
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It takes a ton of finesse and skincare to be a clean-shaven black guy and not have a jawline that looks broiled popcorn ceiling. This person probably skimmed an article about it somewhere many years ago and filled in the forgotten blanks with asspulls.
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There's real basis for this, bans on employee facial hair were found to have a disparate impact on Black men because their hair is more likely to become ingrown if shaved closely (the hairs curl up under the skin). However, key to that case was that being clean-shaven wasn't sufficiently relevant to delivering pizzas. The military has legitimate reasons for the standard.
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Unironically a hilarious concept
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