You now remember CKEK

https://old.reddit.com/r/pakistan/comments/oksgja/lets_discuss_the_vision_to_unlock_central_asian

The massive gamechanger than was supposed to turn Pakistan into a major logistics/trading hub and Gwadar into the South Asian dubai. I learnt about this in 2015 and after 7 years, no game has been changed. :marseyitsover:

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Stoicpeace He/Him KWAB Sasanka_of_Gauda 1yr ago #3557513

Gwadar thing especially was nonsense anyways. Nobody is interested in shipping anything through a land route China especially if that land route in pakistan. I'm not a logistics-cel but this comment makes sense.

China exports 19,95,65,501 teus a year. That's close to 200 mn twenty foot containers.

Even with the largest container vessels, this requires 20,000 of these half a km long leviathans.

It is stupidity to think that even a portion of this can be shifted via road or rail. Even a double stack train which is a KM in length can't carry more than 120 containers. Let's magically double it and you will still need close to a million km long trains to just meet this export need.

This means 2 trains a minute needs to leave China for Gwadar. It also means the same 2 trains need to return in the opposite direction hence leaving you about 30 seconds to devan the trains.

All of this excluding the fact that trains need to leave from manufacturing hubs which are all located in the southern coast.

This is a very bad argument and it needs to rest.

Possibly, 5-6% might go through the CPEC. Anything more is technically just not feasible, let alone viable.

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Stoicpeace 1yr ago #3557525

It made sense for China cause very close access to ME oil, possibly could be secured through area denial land based resources in case of a war so India can't cut off their oil supplies. Probably they'd have redirected some of their trade there even with subsidies to keep it alive. But Pakis there are talking about insecurity in Afg when their own shithole has routine blasts. :taylaugh: I imagine that's why they went to distant Gwadar without simply expanding Karachi, the proximity to the Persian Gulf.