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Aren't they originally ethnically descended from India? :marseyfortuneteller:

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Further evidence for the South Asian origin of the Romanis came in the late 1990s. Researchers doing DNA analysis discovered that Romani populations carried large frequencies of particular Y chromosomes (inherited paternally) and mitochondrial DNA (mtDNA) (inherited maternally) that otherwise exist only in populations from South Asia.

47.3% of Romani men carry Y chromosomes of haplogroup H-M82, which is rare outside South Asia.[16] Mitochondrial haplogroup M, most common in Indian subjects and rare outside southern Asia, accounts for nearly 30% of Romani people.[16] A more detailed study of Polish Roma shows this to be of the M5 lineage, which is specific to India.[17] Moreover, a form of the inherited disorder congenital myasthenia is found in Romani subjects. Caused by the 1267delG mutation, it is otherwise known only in subjects of Indian ancestry. This is considered to be the best evidence of the Indian ancestry of the Romanis.[18]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Romani_people

I can't tell if your response is earnest but it does seem they're long lost :marseytunaktunak: brethren. In the Middle Ages they were valued as skilled craftsman and welcomed into most kingdoms. :marseyreading:

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Now look how !eurochads turned artists and craftsmen into beggars.

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It's the fact they stayed artisans and crafters is the issue. The 19th Century hits and you go from a known group of travelling tinkerers who were noticeably seperate but still needed to wandering vagabonds who strip copper from houses providing services that are no longer popularly needed and spiraling into other criminal and anti-social behaviour from there. Modernity really hit them hard more than anything else.

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Correction:

Gypos have always been thiefs, beggars and general pest on society. Even in the middle ages.

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They were always disliked outsiders (mainly because they were distrusted as heathens - even when baptised) and depending on where they were would be little better than serfs but the modern pure dislike for them above all others only started in the 19th century.

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