Let me know when farmers start refusing the massive handouts they get at everyone else's expense. Until then this tax is karma (or would be if it affected them half as much as they claim).
If we're being honest the subsidies that keep them in business are only necessary because bongs allowed a handful of supermarkets to take over and frick over producers at every opportunity.
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Communists be like:
Hey why do these people that provide food for the entire country get subsidies and land?
at anyone who thought we are ironic when we say commie=hunger !anticommunists
it's insane, the one critical industry which is beyond precious to any nation state - but leftoids are so motivated by contempt for the wealthy rather than benevolence for the poor, that they are blinded by their hatred, and unwilling to let even few benefit from subsidies,
even if the longterm downstream effects is critical towards the nation state's self sufficiency
You know the moment Zimbabwe went to shit? When they had to import more food than they themselves produced - driving up the prices of bread and up beyond affordability for the everyman - and since food is a non-negotiable expense, against other luxuries cut out of the budget - this began the death spiral of inflation. It's more complicated than that, but i remember the distinct moment the Zimdollar crashed into Free Fall was when my own father said more food was imported than produced a country which used to feed every country African state beneath the equator.
Bongland of course is much wealthier and diverse in its finances, but literally threatening the future of your self sustaining food security is maddness, chances are if Bongland's entire agricultural sector evaporates overnight, they might even be fine enough - but so many bongs complain about the crushing rent and increased electricity costs past 5 years - you think importing MORE food from overseas is gonna alleviate that??
driving up the prices of bread and up beyond affordability for the everyman
Uhhh just literally cap the price of food? like give it a price that everyone can afford so everyone can just buy food at the grocery store???? whats gonna happen
you think importing MORE food from overseas is gonna alleviate that??
Are you illiterate?
There's a threshold from which this tax applies, so truly small farmers should not be affected.
Furthermore, currently, a lot of the "farmers" are just rich people who barely use the lands for it's intended purpose, instead they hunt, drive their Range Rovers (so they see something other than London roads once in a while) and generally LARP as 18th century royals.
Getting these kinds of people to sell off their assets to someone who'll actually use it can boost production it anything.
They hate subsidies for anything 'big' even if it's vital like ag. In reality, autarky is something that both the far left and far right can get behind. It's only really the free market types that lose out from it.
what on earth do you thinks gonna happen when global markets vanquish your local producers??
Locals will benefit on the short term, by having cheaper food to buy, but what happens in lean years?? You realize that food and produce have variable years - with some countries havin disasterous years and yields.
Example, suppose you've managed to completely be reliant on Mexico and America for your maize imports, and your local industry has been completely wiped out due to not being competative against the global market of maize, because peeps in the grocer store prefer to buy maize at half the price right?
Suppose an El Nino drought weather system, as had occurred in South AFrica between 2022-2023, destroys crops on a continental scale - suddenly places like America and Mexico have less than half of their usual annual crop yields - the Yank department of Agriculture immediately steps in and places a cap on exports, in order to protect local yanks from literal starvation for that year. Yanks have more than enough for themselves, but they and mexicans now only import a fraction onto the global market
And suddenly brean,, corn and maize is at a turbo premium - your local market can only provide 10% of the needed consumption yield, every other country on earth whom also relies on maize exports from yanks/mexico bids desperately against you for the same finite maize, and that cheap price of yesteryear now has more than tripled in price. Price have risen almost tenfold in 6 months.
Often many southern african countries reliant on South African white mielies or maize for the most popular dish on the continent: pap, have to turn to more expensive international markets like Mexico, to make up the market shortfall, cuz South Africa literally doesn't have enough to share! And as you can well imagine - importing shit overseas across the Atlantic is deceisively more expensive than from your neighbour
al that cheap food you had gained for the average consumer, all that savings wiped out in on lean year, where the global demand outstrips the global supply
>Seff Efrikan giving advice on how to run a country
Deboonking the above wall of commie cope is left as an exercise to the reader. Hints: your country isn't magically immune from bad weather, and rich countries can outbid poor countries.
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he Yank department of Agriculture immediately steps in and places a cap on exports
Has that even happened?
Look, your country is not great for corn. We have vast vast areas on the Great Plains that are good for corn.
Just like Washington is great for apples and so is South Africa.
You want to compete with us on apples but not on corn? Look I'm not expert in growing corn but the idea that you could ever compete with Nebraska is laughable. And would make us wonder if you're dealing in good faith.
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There's also a national security argument to be made. A country that is able to meet its own needs can't be blockaded into starvation, and other countries can't use food imports as leverage against you.
!neolibs no clue what these two are fricking arguing about, didn't bother to read, but somebody mentioned the fricking corn laws and i started pissing blood
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Spoken like a true capitalist
They should just get out of the way of the big business, because big businesses have the money and only they matter
Compromise: no inheritence tax if you have at least 3 kids and split your wealth evenly between them, childless cat ladies should pay a fricking 200 percent inheritance tax and their surviving cats should be deported
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If you own an asset worth millions but that asset only returns 0.015% return a year its not unreasonable to suggest that asset is over valued.
And its a very straight road to come to the conclusion that asset is overvalued not because the land itself is valuable but the tax breaks surrounding it are.
So i dont care if your tax loophole was closed, ffs they get a ÂŁ3,000,000 threshold before they have to start paying the tax.
It's more utter r-slurredness from braindead rightoids. Waaa the poor working class farmers!!! - truly small farmers should not be affected.
In anything, rich people selling off the farmland they barely use for their r-slurred fox hunts, because the tax benefits disappeared, could boost production by letting only people who want it for its intended purpose use it.
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There's a basic crisis in our civilization today: In America (everyone thinks they're American so this applies to all of you tards) in the 1800s you could have a family farm and you would make a little more than enough to get by. Your family would keep doing better and better. And then there was a really rough patch around the 1930s (my grandparents didn't all do well during this time) as they had to leave the farms and move to the cities and do manufacturing. And then there was a time when you could raise a family on what you made working in manufacturing. And then things gradually got worse but some of us could raise a family on what you made in the "information economy".
There is no reason to believe that this will continue. You're just going to be paying more and more for f-slurs like Jeremy Clarkson.
And if I can have a moment, why would anybody ever give a shit about what an angloid said about cars? There's countries famous for cars: America, Germany, France, Japan, Slovakia, Thailand, why in the heck would you ever ask one of them?
In Canada we prop up so many wealthy families and market cartels through farming laws and subsidies too and everyone whines about protecting the farmers when people call to axe it
It's a mix of powerful lobbying cuz they are rich and people who think they are farmers they see on TV shows
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Clarkson is right about speed cameras, Clarkson is right about bike lanes, Clarkson is right about bus lanes. That alone makes him better than any politican.
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Journoid c*nt. A man has a God given right to pass on his wealth without politicians picking through it first.
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Let me know when farmers start refusing the massive handouts they get at everyone else's expense. Until then this tax is karma (or would be if it affected them half as much as they claim).
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If we're being honest the subsidies that keep them in business are only necessary because bongs allowed a handful of supermarkets to take over and frick over producers at every opportunity.
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If your business needs subsidies to stay afloat, you don't run a business, you're a welfare queen.
Farmers need to drop the persecution complex. Boo hoo you have to deal with big businesses? So does everyone else.
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it's insane, the one critical industry which is beyond precious to any nation state - but leftoids are so motivated by contempt for the wealthy rather than benevolence for the poor, that they are blinded by their hatred, and unwilling to let even few benefit from subsidies,
even if the longterm downstream effects is critical towards the nation state's self sufficiency
You know the moment Zimbabwe went to shit? When they had to import more food than they themselves produced - driving up the prices of bread and up beyond affordability for the everyman - and since food is a non-negotiable expense, against other luxuries cut out of the budget - this began the death spiral of inflation. It's more complicated than that, but i remember the distinct moment the Zimdollar crashed into Free Fall was when my own father said more food was imported than produced a country which used to feed every country African state beneath the equator.
Bongland of course is much wealthier and diverse in its finances, but literally threatening the future of your self sustaining food security is maddness, chances are if Bongland's entire agricultural sector evaporates overnight, they might even be fine enough - but so many bongs complain about the crushing rent and increased electricity costs past 5 years - you think importing MORE food from overseas is gonna alleviate that??
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Absolutely nailed it. They can't see the second order effects of destroying the agricultural sector, they just want to own the 'rich'
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Uhhh just literally cap the price of food?
like give it a price that everyone can afford so everyone can just buy food at the grocery store????
whats gonna happen
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Are you illiterate?
There's a threshold from which this tax applies, so truly small farmers should not be affected.
Furthermore, currently, a lot of the "farmers" are just rich people who barely use the lands for it's intended purpose, instead they hunt, drive their Range Rovers (so they see something other than London roads once in a while) and generally LARP as 18th century royals.
Getting these kinds of people to sell off their assets to someone who'll actually use it can boost production it anything.
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Darn, you're really mad over this, but thanks for the effort you put into typing that all out! Sadly I won't read it at all.
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They hate subsidies for anything 'big' even if it's vital like ag. In reality, autarky is something that both the far left and far right can get behind. It's only really the free market types that lose out from it.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corn_Laws
Can you stop projecting your love of feudalist boot? We slapped you down before and we'll gladly do it again.
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!anticommunists
what on earth do you thinks gonna happen when global markets vanquish your local producers??
Locals will benefit on the short term, by having cheaper food to buy, but what happens in lean years?? You realize that food and produce have variable years - with some countries havin disasterous years and yields.
Example, suppose you've managed to completely be reliant on Mexico and America for your maize imports, and your local industry has been completely wiped out due to not being competative against the global market of maize, because peeps in the grocer store prefer to buy maize at half the price right?
Suppose an El Nino drought weather system, as had occurred in South AFrica between 2022-2023, destroys crops on a continental scale - suddenly places like America and Mexico have less than half of their usual annual crop yields - the Yank department of Agriculture immediately steps in and places a cap on exports, in order to protect local yanks from literal starvation for that year. Yanks have more than enough for themselves, but they and mexicans now only import a fraction onto the global market
And suddenly brean,, corn and maize is at a turbo premium - your local market can only provide 10% of the needed consumption yield, every other country on earth whom also relies on maize exports from yanks/mexico bids desperately against you for the same finite maize, and that cheap price of yesteryear now has more than tripled in price. Price have risen almost tenfold in 6 months.
https://wandilesihlobo.com/2024/04/08/zimbabwe-and-zambia-should-look-to-mexico-and-american-farmers-for-more-white-maize/
Often many southern african countries reliant on South African white mielies or maize for the most popular dish on the continent: pap, have to turn to more expensive international markets like Mexico, to make up the market shortfall, cuz South Africa literally doesn't have enough to share! And as you can well imagine - importing shit overseas across the Atlantic is deceisively more expensive than from your neighbour
al that cheap food you had gained for the average consumer, all that savings wiped out in on lean year, where the global demand outstrips the global supply
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Has that even happened?
Look, your country is not great for corn. We have vast vast areas on the Great Plains that are good for corn.
Just like Washington is great for apples and so is South Africa.
You want to compete with us on apples but not on corn? Look I'm not expert in growing corn but the idea that you could ever compete with Nebraska is laughable. And would make us wonder if you're dealing in good faith.
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There's also a national security argument to be made. A country that is able to meet its own needs can't be blockaded into starvation, and other countries can't use food imports as leverage against you.
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!neolibs no clue what these two are fricking arguing about, didn't bother to read, but somebody mentioned the fricking corn laws and i started pissing blood
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Both small and big bussinesses are heckin cute and valid
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www.reddit.com/r/destiny is that way ----------> strag
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Spoken like a true capitalist
They should just get out of the way of the big business, because big businesses have the money and only they matter
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the UK needs to reduce the regular inheritance from 40% to 10%.
and in exchange raise the inheritance tax on land from 0% to 10%.
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Or just remove inheritance tax?
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Why?
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Compromise: no inheritence tax if you have at least 3 kids and split your wealth evenly between them, childless cat ladies should pay a fricking 200 percent inheritance tax and their surviving cats should be deported
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Thats a great proposal, but I think you forgot one detail, and The childless cat ladies should also be deported
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it's an inheritance tax, in this scenario they've already been deported... to heck
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Thats right, and![:marseytroll: :marseytroll:](https://i.rdrama.net/e/marseytroll.webp)
Theyre being deported to heck but go off
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Horse peepees. The undeserving rich are a blight on society.
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There's no such thing as an undeserving rich, if you don't deserve wealth you would have lost it already.
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Then there's no such thing as an undeserved tax
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Any tax is undeserved
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True
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Undeserved taxes, and The state should not deprive the people of that which they have rightfully earned
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Most intelligent lolbert
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Dont insult him like that, he needs the support and its EVERYTHING
Hes blind and gay
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Clarkson is very obviously the best face for this. He's incredibly popular and has an incredibly popular farming show
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He punched an Irish man he's problematic !hibernians
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I'm not sure the 12th best !football team in Scotland really needs it's own ping group
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Clarkson is not really known for his tact and diplomacy, so this is hardly surprising thing to happen. At least he still is yet to punch someone.
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Saying it was dodging inheritance tax is an oversimplification
He was also writing it off as a business expense as part of a TV show AND inheritance taxes
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Everyone hates journoids, this is just good PR
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If you own an asset worth millions but that asset only returns 0.015% return a year its not unreasonable to suggest that asset is over valued.
And its a very straight road to come to the conclusion that asset is overvalued not because the land itself is valuable but the tax breaks surrounding it are.
So i dont care if your tax loophole was closed, ffs they get a ÂŁ3,000,000 threshold before they have to start paying the tax.
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It's more utter r-slurredness from braindead rightoids. Waaa the poor working class farmers!!! - truly small farmers should not be affected.
In anything, rich people selling off the farmland they barely use for their r-slurred fox hunts, because the tax benefits disappeared, could boost production by letting only people who want it for its intended purpose use it.
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There's a basic crisis in our civilization today: In America (everyone thinks they're American so this applies to all of you tards) in the 1800s you could have a family farm and you would make a little more than enough to get by. Your family would keep doing better and better. And then there was a really rough patch around the 1930s (my grandparents didn't all do well during this time) as they had to leave the farms and move to the cities and do manufacturing. And then there was a time when you could raise a family on what you made working in manufacturing. And then things gradually got worse but some of us could raise a family on what you made in the "information economy".
There is no reason to believe that this will continue. You're just going to be paying more and more for f-slurs like Jeremy Clarkson.
And if I can have a moment, why would anybody ever give a shit about what an angloid said about cars? There's countries famous for cars: America, Germany, France, Japan, Slovakia, Thailand, why in the heck would you ever ask one of them?
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Which makes for more entertaining television, b-word?
a fricking truck driver driving a fricking truck
an orangutan driving a fricking truck
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We were concerned about this in the 1980s. We had shows like Max Headroom. Then people just kinda forgot about it.
Also the people making Max Headroom made that terrible Mario Brothers movie that was a disaster.
At least Matt Frewer got to have a memorable role on Star Trek: TNG as a really annoying guy.
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I'd be okay if Jeremy Clarkson didn't have to pay taxes ever again.![](https://i.rdrama.net/i/hand.webp)
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In Canada we prop up so many wealthy families and market cartels through farming laws and subsidies too and everyone whines about protecting the farmers when people call to axe it
It's a mix of powerful lobbying cuz they are rich and people who think they are farmers they see on TV shows
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this is good for dramacoin
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!britbongs discuss
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Clarkson is right about speed cameras, Clarkson is right about bike lanes, Clarkson is right about bus lanes. That alone makes him better than any politican.
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