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>pinging both effortposters and mottezans

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How? Aren't both groups about good quality posts that make you think?

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I think effortposters is a strict superset of mottezans

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so what is the specialization of Mottezans?

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Cultural difference. They're descended from rationalists, so if it's drama or discussion from that place/ lesswrong/ on of the blogs in the periphery, it's relevant. It's not like anybody enforces or agrees on any of this though, so not really important

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so if I make a long well thought post on anything that is effortposters, but if it is a long post about a political-cultural topic then it is mottezans?

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I think effort-posts about the culture war are marginal. Referencing the big names would definitely count. You could cheat by just making one subargument via reference to a scott article lol

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pretty sure scott articles were not the bread and butter of the motte. They were far more culture war oriented if memory serves right.

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Yes, but he was the father of the community. He's somewhat similar to b*rdfinn here. He doesn't come up literally every sentence, but bardfinn lore is canon and you're supposed to know it. If you make a bike chain joke, you can be reasonably sure that 99% of users will know what you mean.

You are supposed to understand what a grey tribe is, what "cthulu always swims left" means, know what they mean by moloch, barber pole theory, conflict/mistake theory. He is like the cosmic background radiation of that place. His adventures in haiti are also always referenced when they feel racist, it's their "but I had breakfast this morning" equivalent

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