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What bothers me about it is that it's religious cosplay with none of the substance.

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I think it's because at heart, people love ritual and liturgy. We love chants and iconography and prayers and incense. We are made for it. That's why God made His Church so rich in this way.

But we also have responsibility. We are obliged to follow God's Law, worship Him, accept His Will not ours, etc.

Witchcraft takes this thing that is good and twists it (as Satan does).

With witchcraft/occult stuff, there is also ritual and liturgy—spells, tarot, runes, crystals…things that seemingly would fill that void in one's heart, and combined with the tantalizing lie that you have control and no obligations in return. There seems to be a trend of thinking there's just a vague "universe" or energy. If there are no personal gods, there can be no obligations, can there? You can do whatever you want!

Ultimately, people who practice witchcraft don't worship anyone but themselves, just like Satan. And that's his goal, don't you think? To make people more like him instead of like God.

One of the top comments. :marseygem:

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I think it's awful from even my athiestic view because witchcraft is so thought stopping. Empty rituals and self-congratulation fail to yield any secular equivalents to the meaningful aspects of religion.

I think ethics without religion can be pretty straightforward, but the faithful have a point when religion gets replaced with something ethically empty -- devoid of obligation to call back to the comment you quoted.

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People tend to treat the prayers and ritual of religious life as mundane and don't emphasise it. My grandfather told me that the Eucharist was a literal divine sublimation into something utterly beyond us. He was a smart dude but he grew up rural and kept that mentality with him.

"Yeah I'm literally invoking angels and divine spirits to watch over you. Be grateful and say a prayer for me too yeah :marseyboomer: "

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I will say a prayer for your grandfather, for you, and for the rest of your family, as well. :marseypraying: May God bless and watch over you all.

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I love when my mom does this for me

:#taypraylove::#taypraylove::#taypraylove:

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Yes, unlike wiccans who are doing make pretend, our man in the special robe is LITERALLY invoking a supernatural spirit to come inhabit this cracker for us to eat. We are not alike.

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I mean that it's not treated as sexy and cool so midwits disregard it as its something they view as boring since they grew up with it.

It's about your rhetoric and charisma.

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Yea I 100% agree with this guy, it's just a LARP to fill the need for genuine spiritual or social interaction and basically find a group to fit in. Highly doubt many people who practice modern witchcraft genuinely believe in any mysticism or esotericism associated with their practices. Not that it matters, none of it is real anyways.

The real problem is that this new iteration of witchcraft along with like 90% of modern social movements is just a way to justify doing whatever you want all the time

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>see vaguely good thing

>relate it to Christiniaty

>THIS CONFIRMS GOD EXISTS

:#marseysigh:

:#marseymanysuchcases:

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Where does he say this is proof of God? :marseyconfused2: Did you read the comment?

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hat's why God made His Church so rich in this way.

>see good thing

>proclaim that god did it

His existence is implied with this type of argument or "observation." That's all I'm getting at, sweaty. :marseysipping:

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I don't think it's that shallow an observation to recognize that man's search for meaning and ritual are hardwired into us. :marseyindignant: Regardless the reason I shared it in this chain was the part about dunking on :marseysatanworship2: witches :marseysatanworship2: for mimicking "true" religious habits but inversing it to be a vain form of masturbation.

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hat man's search for meaning and ritual are hardwired into us.

It's faulty reasoning because it's so arbitrary. :!marseyindignant:

a vain form of masturbation.

Like all religions.

:#marseyjerkoffsmile:

Heh heh heh heh. :marseysmug2:

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hat man's search for meaning

@Goomble :marseysoypoint:

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substance

lol

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You can disagree that the substance is correct, but it's Redditor edgelord BS to claim it's absent. !catholics

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it's a mirror and you hate what you see

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But I'm not religious or a witch?

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I mean the alternative is a priest in a wizard robe saying hocus pocus and turning the cracker into Jesus.

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:marseyarchang#elchop: :@moonn#arcagenocide: :!marseyarc#hangelchop:

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and turning the cracker into Jesus.

And turning the altar boy gay, you mean :marseysting:

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The day that the catholic school teachers tried to convince me that the priests actually believed in transfiguration and only the protestants see it as symbolic was unintentionally hilarious.

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The @goodNews4U is that they're looking to fill a spiritual void in themselves, which means that when they mature out of their edgy phase they're far more likely to convert and be saved. I treat self-professed witches with kindness and compassion because while their powers aren't real, their attempt to worship satan is and they need to know that there's a way out once they feel ready and don't have to double down if they start questioning their cult

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Witch hunts were a hallmark of the early modern period, not the 4th century

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I treat self-professed witches with kindness and compassion because alt girls have loose s*x morals and im hoping to score

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How many self-professed witches are there in Turkey? :marseythinkorino:

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there is enough

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I think you mean "too many". :marseywitchgenocide:

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:#marseycrusader2talking:

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There is demonic power that can affect the weal willed and those of little faith. Easily cast away with the name of Jesus Christ.

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>these days

oh plz, when I was a teenager every other teenage girl was a 'wiccan'

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https://media.tenor.com/gBArPBMP7fIAAAAx/charmed-interview-charmed-netflix.webp

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I know one who never grew up and still is wiccan in her mid 20s because she worships her narcissistic mother who claims to be wiccian. It's the cringiest shit seeing an adult behave like an r-slured teenager and treating burning incense as spiritual.

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I went to private school so I wasn't really aware of how popular new age/wicca/whatever else was until I was a bit older. :marseythinkorino:

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None of them really ever learnt much other than a few basic things about wicca, they'd go round for a couple of years telling everyone how wiccan they were, and then grow out of it by 18yo or so. Typical teenage shit.

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It's basically the natural evolution to kids that thought they were a vampire or werewolf in elementary school.

Most kids do grow out of it, however I feel antibullying campaigns have increased delusions and it's harder to grow out of it now with the way everyone has to gayly prop up EVERYTHING that others do.

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The difference is that 50% of millennials didn't grow up and are still doing the teenage phase thing.

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I think millennials are in an awkward place right now. Their youth cultures (emo, hipsters etc) were all about being goofy, cutesy and playful and that's suddenly looking quite awkward on a bunch of adults in their 30s. Zoomer culture isn't really like that, it's much more serious and dignified and so that emphasises the difference further.

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A lot of zoomer women come off as frigid/emotionless like they tried being the opposite.

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Modern occultism seems extremely lame and gay.

It's hard to tell how many people taking part in it believe in anything supernatural (and maybe seek something spiritual in their lives), and how many are just doing it as LARP to appear more cool and interesting.

None of them are using sulphur coated cats as torches tough. No true commitment.

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foids actually believe star signs and tarot cards :marseywise:

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>foids consorting with :marseybaphomet:

>this suprises someone

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Cuz its easy. Ask them to go into an ancient tomb and talk to the messenger of Horus and suddenly there are excuses infinite :marseyaleistercrowley:

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https://media.tenor.com/zzo6aYvpax8AAAAx/tweaking-torment.webp

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never trust predictions of someone who can't even gut a chicken properly :marseymarmotroman:

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This is why Alchemy is still based. Alchemy is just fancy chemistry told thru metaphor and poetry so reading them can be fun.

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Harry Potter and its consequences had been a disaster for the human race

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"Abba Moses asked Abba Silvanus, 'Can a man lay a new foundation every day?' The old man said, 'If he works hard, he can lay a new foundation at every moment.'"

"A brother came to see Abba Macarius the Egyptian, and said to him, 'Abba, give me a word, that I may be saved.' So the old man said, 'Go to the cemetery and abuse the dead.' The brother went there, abused them and threw stones at them; then he returned and told the old man about it. The latter said to him, 'Didn't they say anything to you?' He replied, 'No.' The old man said, 'Go back tomorrow and praise them.' So the brother went away and praised them, calling them, 'Apostles, saints and righteous men.' He returned to the old man and said to him, 'I have complimented them.' And the old man said to him, 'Did they not answer you?' The brother said no. The old man said to him, 'You know how you insulted them and they did not reply, and how you praised them and they did not speak; so you too if you wish to be saved must do the same and become a dead man. Like the dead, take no account of either the scorn of men or their praises, and you can be saved.'"

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https://old.reddit.com/r/Catholicism/comments/1folesr/is_anybody_else_troubled_by_how_many_young_people/:

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It's almost Halloween you dipshits.

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