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I tried meth and opiates and dont understand how anyone could be addicted to them because they are relatively mid

Will start by saying that I'm not a degenerate with drugs. I almost exclusively take them socially, so my experience has always been with alcohol, cigs, zyns (no vapes because I'm not a cute twink), weed, mushrooms, lsd, coke (rarely), and mdma. Essentially what you'd find inside a typical rave. Recently I tried Meth and Percocet, on two separate occasions. There was some part of me that was afraid that this would be the beginning of a degeneracy spiral. But coming away from these experiences, I'm left confused, because both of them are shitty and lame.

  • I'll start with Meth :marseybowl:. I normally test my Molly but was handed a pill at a function by a friend, and sort of without thinking, I took it (found out later it tested positive for meth). Wow, what a shitty high. It literally just felt like a "rougher" version of Molly with was less of the fun euphoria. I basically only got an energetic burst, but even in that regard, it was shittier than cocaine which I've only taken twice. The euphoria was also less of the "I love everyone" signature MDMA high and more "I want to move and run around."

  • Next is the Percocets :marseymeds:. This is the most recent experience which inspired this post. I was prescribed percocets for a medical procedure that I had roughly two months ago and never really needed them because I'm not a kitty. Sort of out of morbid curiosity, I decided to take a total of 10mg, which Erowid says is on the border of a common-high dosage. I literally felt almost nothing but a bit of warmth inside and a small amount of euphoria. I went on a walk, which was nice, and it wasn't like I had a bad time. But the affects were not nearly as acute as I was expecting.

So, coming away from thi, are hard drug users actually r-slurred? I hear stories of people getting addicted to meth and opiates all the time and I cannot fathom how this happens. I guess if opiates are the only thing relieving your chronic pain thats one thing. But how could anyone find the symptoms of these good enough to abuse them to an addiction level recreationally? Especially when much better drugs exist.

  • MDMA and cocaine blow these so far out of the water. Honestly, not even that. A bottle of grey goose washes Percocet.

  • And I haven't even talked about safety yet, being that almost anything is much safer than opiates or meth.

  • The affects of literally any psychedelic are also 10x better than this shit.

  • Is it because of price? No. I googled the street price for Oxy as around 12-40 dollars per pill and Meth around 80/gram so 16/dose. Meanwhile, the price I pay for 220ug of LSD is 2.50 per tab and MDMA as 10 per point. So you're not even getting a "better" deal on a per high basis.

  • Is it because of ease of access? I can't imagine it is. I wouldn't even know where to look to buy opiates but all the local dealers on telegram are easy to find.

I am now genuinely curious. Can someone illuminate this issue for me? :marseyconfused:

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Molly is meth for children. If you decide you want to further melt your brain and be high constantly that's the move because there's absolutely no way to function in society on Molly. Completely trash drug and you should keep yourself safe for not realizing how gay it is. Just do coke like a man.

Lol at comparing opiates to booze. That's not an either/or.

Price and ease of access to anything is easier once you're a part of the in-group (in this case junkies).

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nah fr talkin 80 a g for meth lol its 10-15 a g lol

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Yeah because I can function so much better in society on meth? You fricking r-slur, do you think I'm taking Molly nonstop every day? I wish I could because it's inarguably one of the best drugs ever, but because I'm not r-slurred, I limit my usage to a relatively safe level. Like I said the reason why I like it so much is that molly is a very social drug. Maybe you hate on it so much because you're a cute twink with no friends :marseythumbsup:

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Molly is melting your brain even if you do it once a year. It's the only drug I regret doing and I can literally see the continued cognitive decline in my friends that haven't stopped. No exaggeration the dudes doing meth every day have better brains at 50 than the idiots rolling at festivals a few times a year do at 25.

Edit: and they literally get depressed for a week now after they roll and have to miss work while the methchads are doing more work than ever and having a blast with it.

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I've met dudes who do meth in work environment, also met one guy who did molly. Meth dudes varied in weirdness, but they all had the same sort of pattern of eating like no food and alert the entire day. Molly guy would sport a justin beeber cut and try hooking up with other people's girlfriends lmao. At least the tweakers kept to themself

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I used to manage a warehouse and the meth guys and gals were always absolute beasts. Never ate, only breaks were to smoke, and they never brought any problems to me. I know it's cutting decades off their lifespan but I honestly liked them. Like you said they mostly kept to themselves, and because meth lasts forever I never had to fire any of them for doing drugs at work like I did the potheads.

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